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Post by falgar25 on Nov 4, 2012 17:28:46 GMT -4
Under George W. Bush, 11 United States Embassies were attacked resulting in 53 deaths, and 90 injuries. Under Obama....? 1 resulting in 4 deaths, and 1 injury. Where were you a-holes when Bush was president? You guys really need to ahold of yourselves!! How many of the 53 were Americans? How many of the 4 were the attackers? The numbers for Obama are wrong, there were at least three embassies attacked. How many of the other numbers are wrong or misleading?
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Post by dej on Nov 5, 2012 5:39:54 GMT -4
Under George W. Bush, 11 United States Embassies were attacked resulting in 53 deaths, and 90 injuries. Under Obama....? 1 resulting in 4 deaths, and 1 injury. Your counts on the attacks and injuries are a little off. Here's some the attacks on embassies, consulates, and embassy personnel since President Obama took office. Yemen, January 29, 2009 gunmen opened fire on the embassy. There had been a warning issued prior to the attack, resultin in no injuries. Yemen, Feb 2009, at least 25 millitants, were arrested after an attack on the embassy with automatic weapons, grenades and a car bomb. 6 guards and 4 civilians, including an American citizen were killed. On November 14, 2009, heavily armed individuals attempted to kidnap U.S. Embassy employees in Niger. On April 5, 2010, terrorists carried out a complex attack on U.S. Consulate General Peshawar, with several Pakistani security and military personnel killed or wounded. Damascus, Syria embassy in 2011. The embassy compound perimeter was breached and the ambassador'r residence was attacked. The attack was repelled by Marines, which may account for the lack of any casualties It was also a level of protection that was not available in the Libya attack. That one almost certainly was staged by the Syrian government. Our response was "harsh criticism". On May 20, 2011, a U.S. Consulate General vehicle in Peshawar was attacked, killing one person and injuring a dozen, including two U.S. employees of the Mission. Kabul, Afghanistan embassy on Sept 11, 2011 (described as well-coordinated attack using RPGs automatic weapons). Again, a military presence at the embassy repelled the attack, with only 4 people injured. Kabul, Afghanistan, Sept 26, 2011 a gunman inside the embassy killed 1 American, wounded another, and killed an Afghan guard. Sarajevo, Bosnia in 2011. A lone gunman opened fire on the embassy. No injuries due to quick response by Bosnian security. Benghazi, June 2012, the consulate was trageted with an IED. Peshawar Pakistan, Sep 3, 2012 unidentified terrorists attacked a U.S. vehicle convoy in Peshawar, injuring U.S. and Pakistani personnel. in September, the Benghazi terrorist assault was not the only attack. In Cairo the embassy grounds were breached. The lack of response by the Egyptian security would seem to indicate that they at least approved of, if not actually help coordinate the attack, like the Syrian incident earlier. But unlike Syria, where Assad and the Syrian governemnt were "harshly criticized", the President Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood leadership of Egypt was not. Instead they demanded prosecution of the video creator (who was later arrested). Yemen, Sept 13, 2012, embassy grounds attacked and breached, fires set, vehicles burned, 24 guards injured. After this attack, a Marine FAST team was deployed to Yemen. Tunis, Tunisia, Sept 14, 2012, the embassy was attacked, walls breached and fires started with Molotov cocktails. Sudan, Sept 14 the outer walls of the embassy were breached, 3 killed. Reports don't indicate if the victims were attackers or guards. A Marine FAST team is deployed to Sudan. Jakarta, indonesia, Sept 17 The embassy was attacked by protesters were wearing masks and paramilitary uniforms, either white for FPI, or black for other groups including Solidarity for Palestine, Muslim Cadets and Islamic Defenders Army. Injuries to security forces were reported. Yemen, Oct 2012 While not a direct assualt on the embassy, the security chief was targeted and killed on his way to work. Where were you a-holes when Bush was president? You guys really need to ahold of yourselves!! Most of the time this "a-hole" was here, except for the periods I spent in Saudi, Kuwait, and during Nov/Dec 2001 when I got to spend a couple holidays in Spain, supporting the airlift of armaments and supplies to Afghanistan after the Sept 11 attacks. I do have "ahold" of myself. I also keep "ahold" of what is happening around the world. Even though I have retired from the Reserves, I have a son, grandson and nephews still serving in active and reserve components, and that's my incentive to continue keeping ahold of world events.
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Post by hisea on Nov 5, 2012 16:20:06 GMT -4
CBS Held Damaging Obama Benghazi Tape ANALYSIS: Two days before the election, CBS posted additional portions of a Sept. 12 "60 Minutes" interview where President Obama seems to contradict himself on the Benghazi attack. As the Benghazi investigation gets more attention and focus, CBS is once again adding to the Benghazi timeline. In the interview, according to the latest portions, Obama would not say whether he thought the attack was terrorism. Yet he would later emphasize at a presidential debate that in the Rose Garden the same day, he had declared the attack an act of terror. That moment was one of the most intense exchanges in the second presidential debate. Romney was on the offensive on what conservatives believed was a serious vulnerability of Obama -- the handling of the Benghazi attack and what he called it from the beginning. nation.foxnews.com/60-minutes/2012/11/05/cbs-held-damaging-obama-benghazi-tape
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Post by hisea on Nov 16, 2012 7:16:35 GMT -4
Libya timeline suggests cover-up in attack The Obama administration’s public versions of events in the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Libya have been riddled with discrepancies, starting soon after the American dead and survivors left behind a charred diplomatic compound and bullet-scarred CIA building in Benghazi. The administration’s inconsistencies go beyond its false assertion for days afterward that a made-in-America anti-Muslim video spurred “spontaneous” Sept. 11 assaults in which U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, his information officer and two former Navy SEALs were killed. Read more: Libya timeline suggests cover-up in attack - Washington Times www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/nov/14/libya-timeline-suggests-cover-up-in-attack/#ixzz2CNpSk3K1 Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter
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Post by grova on Nov 17, 2012 11:29:45 GMT -4
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Post by topfish on Nov 17, 2012 12:25:56 GMT -4
The General testified yesterday and debunked a White House conspiracy. General P is a Republican and a US Icon who we all should hold in high regard for his years of honorable Service. He is human like most of us and screwed up a little (BFD)! It is awful that we lost the Ambassador and 3 others in Libya. It is a very dangerous part of the World and in serving there as a United States Citizen are putting their life possibly on the line. Now some wingnuts are talking about a conspiracy between the General and the White House. There will always be wingnuts and they serve a purpose of entertaining others in a whimsical way. McCann and King even backed off yesterday after the General testified. It is time to end the politicizing of this tragedy. Barbara Bush said yesterday: "We Lost, Get Over it, Move On"! I read a article yesterday written by McCann's daughter (Megan). She said if the R Party does not make dramatic changes she is going to become an Independent in 2016. The facts will come out about Ambassador Stevens and there are we will learn the information in due time (that is not classified by our Intelligence Community). In the mean time supposition, paranoia and conspiracy will fill up the noise of the few. This was a very sad Event but we have too many other extremely serious issues to spend time ruminating over this. It happened and we should learn from our mistakes to try to prevent this from happening in the future. Sadly, I believe in many case actions like this are not entirely preventable and the I estimate (98%) that we will lose more Diplomats in the future. It is the nature of the (DOS) business in this unstable world to possibly receive physical harm We should be thankful to the people who agree to risk their safety when they serve in dangerous areas of the World that work for the DOS. dip·lo·mat [dip-luh-mat] Show IPA noun 1. a person appointed by a national government to conduct official negotiations and maintain political, economic, and social relations with another country or countries. 2. a person who is tactful and skillful in managing delicate situations, handling people, etc.
Just in from Politico Website on 11/17/12 at 1700:
CIA's language on Benghazi was barely edited, White House says
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By JENNIFER EPSTEIN | 11/17/12 1:25 PM EST
The White House made only small, factual edits to the CIA's initial intelligence assessment on the September attack on Americans in Benghazi, deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes said Saturday.
"We were provided with points by the intelligence community that represented their assessment," Rhodes said aboard Air Force One en route to Asia. "The only edit made by the White House was the factual edit about how to refer to the facility.”
The White House and State Department changed a reference in the report from "consulate" to "diplomatic facility," he said. "Other than that, we were guided by the points that were provided by the intelligence community. So I can’t speak to any other edits that may have been made.”
(Also on POLITICO: Benghazi attack timeline shows military response to Libya)
After Gen. David Petraeus's closed-door testimony Friday on Capitol Hill, members who had heard him speak said the then-CIA director had testified quickly came to the conclusion that the attack was terrorism, and not the result of escalated protests against an anti-Islam video. Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.) said Petraeus had indicated that the initial report pointed to Al Qaeda involvement, but that the talking points eventually cleared for use by administration officials had scrubbed that reference.
But Rhodes said that language never made it into the assessment that the White House and State Department received, and that any edit happened before it reached them.
“I can’t speak to what the process is within the CIA," Rhodes said. From early on, though, the administration "indicated we believed extremists were involved" in the attack that killed four Americans. "The president himself called it an ‘act of terror,’ right? So you have an initial assessment, an initial judgment, but you’re able to get more specific as … the investigation proceeds. That’s going to be the natural progression of events.”
(Also on POLITICO: Petraeus: CIA believed Benghazi was a terrorist attack)
Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, has been accused of offering misleading comments in a series of interviews she did on the Sunday after the attack by pointing to the video as the cause.
"The focus of this has often been on public statements that were made by Susan Rice and other administration officials in that first week after the attack, those were informed by unclassified talking points that were provided to the Congress and the other agencies in the rest of the administration by the intelligence community," Rhodes said. "So that’s what informed our public statements. Now if there were adjustments to them made by the intelligence community, that’s common and that’s something they would have done themselves."
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Post by hisea on Dec 5, 2012 15:53:46 GMT -4
Families want to know what happened in Benghazi The father of a former Navy SEAL killed in the Sept. 11 terrorist attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, says he learned the details of his son’s bravery not from the Obama administration, but in an email from an American whose life was saved by his son. Tyrone Woods, 41, was found “slumped over his machine gun, which was caked with blood,” Charles Woods, the former SEAL’s father, said during a telephone interview from his home in Hawaii. “He had continued to fire until he had no blood left and was unable to fire anymore,” Mr. Woods said. He did not identify the email’s sender but said he later spoke with the person who “told me how Ty died.” Washington politics has largely shifted attention from what actually happened nearly three months ago in the Benghazi attack, in which U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, former SEAL Glen Doherty and State Department officer Sean Smith also were slain. Read more: www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/dec/4/families-want-to-know-what-happened-in-benghazi-ob/#ixzz2ED1d6ybL
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Post by hisea on Jan 9, 2013 16:32:48 GMT -4
Clinton Publicly Linked Benghazi to Video Before Woods and Doherty Were Killed On the night of Sept. 11, 2012 — before former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were killed by a terrorist mortar strike — Secretary of State Hillary Clinton released a public statement linking the attack against the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, with an anti-Muslim video, which she referred to as "inflammatory material posted on the Internet." Clinton's statement, still posted on State's website, is dated Sept. 11, 2012, and headlined: "Statement on the Attack in Benghazi." The statement first notes that a State Department officer had been killed in Benghazi — an apparent reference to Information Management Officer Sean Smith, whose body had been recovered at the U.S. mission in Benghazi by U.S. security officers by about 5:30 p.m. Washington, D.C., time on Sept. 11 — or 11:30 p.m. Benghazi time. The statement then talks about Clinton's communications that night with Libya's president and refers to what Clinton calls "inflammatory material posted on the Internet." "I condemn in the strongest terms the attack on our mission in Benghazi today," Clinton said in the statement. "As we work to secure our personnel and facilities, we have confirmed that one of our State Department officers was killed. We are heartbroken by this terrible loss. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family and those who have suffered in this attack. "This evening, I called Libyan President Magariaf to coordinate additional support to protect Americans in Libya," Clinton continued. "President Magariaf expressed his condemnation and condolences and pledged his government's full cooperation. cnsnews.com/blog/terence-p-jeffrey/clinton-publicly-linked-benghazi-video-woods-and-doherty-were-killed
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Post by hisea on Jan 30, 2013 0:37:39 GMT -4
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Post by hisea on Mar 28, 2013 14:04:23 GMT -4
Are Benghazi Survivors Hiding In A Washington, D.C. Hospital? For more than six months since the September 11, 2012 attacks on America’s diplomatic outposts in Benghazi, the Obama administration has been unwilling to turn over the names or whereabouts of any survivors. They may be hiding plain sight. Rep. Frank Wolf (R-VA) has learned that “as many as seven Americans have been or are currently being treated,” at the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Washington, D.C.—less than 11 miles from the U.S. Capitol. Rep. Wolf cited two independent confidential sources for his information. And the number of survivors may be even larger than previously suspected. There may be more than 30 survivors, including State Department and CIA personnel as well as government contractors, according to a March 1, 2013 letter sent by Rep. Wolf and Rep. Jim Gerlach to Secretary of State John Kerry . As for those government contractors mentioned, they are believed to include former U.S Navy Seals and other former special-forces operators. And it seems that the survivors have been told not to talk. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), who has been in touch with the family members of Benghazi survivors, has said that the survivors have been “told to be quiet” by Obama administration officials. “The public needs to hear from people who were on the ground, their desperate situation. They need to understand from people who were there for months how bad it was getting and how frustrated they were that nobody would listen to them and provide aid.” Responding to Sen. Lindsay‘s remarks, a White House spokesman denied that survivors or their families were told not to talk. He provided no information on when the survivors would be made available to congressional investigators or made available to the press. Why are the survivors so important? As eyewitnesses, they are uniquely placed to tell the public about the deadliest attack on a State Department facility since the 1998 East Africa embassy bombings, which claimed the lives of 224 people, including 12 Americans. The 2012 Benghazi attack also marks the first time since 1979 that a U.S. ambassador has been killed, when Iran-backed Islamist extremists killed the U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan. The survivors could tell Congress, and the public, important new details. Libyan reports indicate that there were upwards of 100 attackers in Benghazi, that they were organized into machine-gun fire teams and mortar crews, and appeared to take orders from men wearing Afghan-style clothing. So far the Obama administration has provided few details about the attackers, their organization or their motivation. Why does this matter? If these reports from Libyan sources are true, then the attack was a major al Qaeda operation. Indeed, the largest that the terror network has mounted outside the Afghan-Pakistan region in more than a decade. In short, an act of war — not a peaceful demonstration that went awry, as the Obama Administration initially said. This has led activists, bloggers and other critics of the president to ask: Did the president ignore an act of war in order to win the 2012 election? If this suspicion is wrong, the survivors are uniquely placed to dispel this poisonous notion. www.forbes.com/sites/richardminiter/2013/03/25/are-benghazi-survivors-hiding-in-a-washington-d-c-hospital/
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Post by deepsea on May 15, 2013 7:59:53 GMT -4
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Post by deepsea on May 21, 2013 10:50:02 GMT -4
U.S. attorney involved in leaking Fast and Furious document WASHINGTON -- The former top federal prosecutor in Arizona retaliated against the lead whistle blower in the Fast and Furious controversy by leaking an internal report that suggested he too once favored “walking guns” along the Southwest border and would be accessible to U.S. criminals and drug cartels in Mexico, the Department of Justice’s Inspector General’s office determined Monday. Dennis K. Burke, who resigned in the wake of the Fast and Furious matter, conceded to Inspector General investigators that he leaked an internal memorandum to a television producer in which ATF Special Agent John Dodson discussed an earlier case involving gun-walking on the border. Burke told Inspector General investigators that he was “unabashed” about leaking the memo and did not feel he had done anything illegal. www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-attorney-leaked-fast-and-furious-document-20130520,0,5762331.story
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Post by deepsea on Sept 11, 2013 8:12:50 GMT -4
Its been a year! U.S. officials identify extremist groups in Benghazi attack U.S. counterterrorism officials have determined that several extremist groups, including Ansar al-Sharia, took part in last year’s attack in Benghazi, Libya, that killed a U.S. ambassador and three other officials. They think the terrorist organizations selected the U.S. diplomatic outpost there as a potential target ahead of time. The officials have identified numerous people involved — some new to U.S. intelligence and others who are well-known — and have issued several sealed indictments in recent months. But on the first anniversary of the attack, there is not “anyone in custody who can tell us” specifics, including when, where and by whom the plot was hatched, and whether the Sept. 11 date was selected in advance or was a last-minute choice of opportunity, a counterterrorism official said. “That is a huge gap,” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the investigation. “What we lack is a source of information that puts us where we need to be.” www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/extremist-groups-took-part-in-benghazi-attack-us-officials-say/2013/09/10/e844df8e-1a2e-11e3-a628-7e6dde8f889d_story.html
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Post by topfish on Sept 28, 2013 20:59:27 GMT -4
Deepsea you should be on Meds. Your Buddy Daryl Issa spent 7 months trying to suggest there was a conspiracy and came up with nothing. At this point the only conspiracy is in your tin foiled covered head as well as the sad mothers like you! I know it is futile to have a sane discussion with you but you and your ilk have much to do with what is wrong with our Country. I do not believe there is a cure for paranoia but I know there are medications out there that might help you! You are entitled to your opinion but not your baseless facts that you quote from your like minded buddies! The NRA is correct in repeating there is a severe mental health problem in this Country! Maybe the NRA will start a group therapy session for folks like you?
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Post by deepsea on Oct 2, 2013 15:52:22 GMT -4
Deepsea you should be on Meds. Your Buddy Daryl Issa spent 7 months trying to suggest there was a conspiracy and came up with nothing. At this point the only conspiracy is in your tin foiled covered head as well as the sad mothers like you! I know it is futile to have a sane discussion with you but you and your ilk have much to do with what is wrong with our Country. I do not believe there is a cure for paranoia but I know there are medications out there that might help you! You are entitled to your opinion but not your baseless facts that you quote from your like minded buddies! The NRA is correct in repeating there is a severe mental health problem in this Country! Maybe the NRA will start a group therapy session for folks like you? Most of been some tasty kool-aid! I know it was bush's fault and I'm a racist! LOL
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Post by deepsea on Apr 30, 2014 6:05:11 GMT -4
TOLD YOU! Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ explanation Catherine Herridge By Catherine Herridge Published April 29, 2014 FoxNews.com Facebook9547 Twitter5708 Gplus254 Newly released emails on the Benghazi terror attack suggest a senior White House aide played a central role in preparing former U.N. ambassador Susan Rice for her controversial Sunday show appearances -- where she wrongly blamed protests over an Internet video. More than 100 pages of documents were released to the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch as part of a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit. Among them was a Sept. 14, 2012, email from Ben Rhodes, an assistant to the president and deputy national security adviser for strategic communications. The Rhodes email, with the subject line: "RE: PREP Call with Susan: Saturday at 4:00 pm ET," was sent to a dozen members of the administration's inner circle, including key members of the White House communications team such as Press Secretary Jay Carney. In the email, Rhodes specifically draws attention to the anti-Islam Internet video, without distinguishing whether the Benghazi attack was different from protests elsewhere. The email lists the following two goals, among others: "To underscore that these protests are rooted in an Internet video, and not a broader failure of policy." "To reinforce the President and Administration's strength and steadiness in dealing with difficult challenges." The email goes on to state that the U.S. government rejected the message of the Internet video. "We find it disgusting and reprehensible. But there is absolutely no justification at all for responding to this movie with violence," the email stated. www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/29/benghazi-emails-suggest-white-house-aide-involved-in-prepping-rice-for-video/
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