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Post by georgej202 on Dec 19, 2013 10:50:08 GMT -4
Wy does our political elite keep all their perks, health care and pensions, and they decide to cut the pensions of those who protect us. I'm sorry but this is wrong very wrong George
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Post by georgej202 on Dec 19, 2013 13:03:48 GMT -4
It's time for a change and not the one discussed by the present administration.
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Post by frankf on Dec 19, 2013 13:21:19 GMT -4
Might want to note that the "elite" of which you speak is the REPUBLICAN leadership who is cutting military benefits.
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Post by deepsea on Dec 19, 2013 16:10:11 GMT -4
Babette Maxwell, founder of Military Spouse magazine, has called out Sen. John McCain of Arizona, a disabled Vietnam veteran, for voting on the budget deal, which slashes pensions for military personnel. "Shockingly, a disabled veteran took money away from disabled veterans. He's one of us," Maxwell told "The Steve Malzberg Show" on Newsmax TV. Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com www.newsmax.com/NewsmaxTv/Babette-Maxwell-budget-military-cuts/2013/12/18/id/542675#ixzz2nxAeDOCn Urgent: Should Obamacare Be Repealed? Vote Here Now! "It's a mass breach of promise from our congressmen who gave us their word that they would grandfather in our benefits for our active-duty retirees and the past retirees," Maxwell said. The Senate passed the bipartisan budget Wednesday. Maxwell said the cuts affect not only disabled veterans but also benefits for spouses. "So, not only have they targeted our disabled, they've targeted our deceased," she said. "As to why [lawmakers] feel like this is the will of the people, I have no idea. It most certainly is not the will of the people." "I can't imagine a nation that would support taking away earned benefits from those who have given of their life and of their limb." www.newsmax.com/NewsmaxTv/Babette-Maxwell-budget-military-cuts/2013/12/18/id/542675
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Post by bob66 on Dec 19, 2013 17:48:12 GMT -4
Make no mistake, this is a bipartisan screwing. While I still cannot say I am sorry I spent a career in the military, I can say I am sorry for voting for all of the people I did for the last 30 years. I don't vote along any party lines, but every vote I cast was a loser in the end. Every one. And any incumbent that gets re-elected in the next 4 years is re-elected by losers.
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Post by georgej202 on Dec 19, 2013 19:11:07 GMT -4
Might want to note that the "elite" of which you speak is the REPUBLICAN leadership who is cutting military benefits. I dont believe i singled out a party because they are both to blame, but i believe if you check the voting record of who voted for it you would be suprised, but maybe not. As far as McCain and his group they are not really republicians George
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Post by deputy on Dec 20, 2013 8:49:21 GMT -4
Might want to note that the "elite" of which you speak is the REPUBLICAN leadership who is cutting military benefits. I dont believe i singled out a party because they are both to blame, but i believe if you check the voting record of who voted for it you would be surprised, but maybe not. As far as McCain and his group they are not really republicans George Ditto George. this isn't and hasn't been a single party problem for quite a while. Our government system is broke, physically AND fiscally and yet we continue to increase spending. call it want you want, when you read the bottom line spending has increased and we are already in debt over our grandchildrens heads. Our politician are just collecting a check and working on their pension while the debt and spending issues get passed on to future generations and future politicians. These guys can't fix what they broke, they don't understand that the well is running dry.
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Post by georgej202 on Dec 21, 2013 12:53:30 GMT -4
Might want to note that the "elite" of which you speak is the REPUBLICAN leadership who is cutting military benefits. Note not excepted. Try this and maybe see a different light but I doubt it: concernedveteransforamerica.org/George
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Post by alleycat on Dec 21, 2013 13:59:22 GMT -4
Apparently it is a tiny amount of money. A lot of indignant sputtering about nothing much.
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Post by georgej202 on Dec 21, 2013 14:45:29 GMT -4
Apparently it is a tiny amount of money. A lot of indignant sputtering about nothing much. Assuming you are referring to the web site I posted? If that is the case try telling that to the ones that have given so much for this country. Even a small amount takes a toll on them. What a shame we have people in this country that think like that, but that is their right. George
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Post by barnaclebill on Dec 21, 2013 17:52:15 GMT -4
Apparently it is a tiny amount of money. A lot of indignant sputtering about nothing much. Part of the problem is you have people spending 8 years in college devising ways to nickel and dime working people into oblivion.
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Post by frankf on Dec 21, 2013 21:57:13 GMT -4
Yep. Republicans cutting programs like SNAP, which a HUGE number of military families rely on. Why do Republicans hate America?
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Post by bob66 on Dec 21, 2013 22:07:58 GMT -4
Apparently it is a tiny amount of money. A lot of indignant sputtering about nothing much. I'm going to assume you meant that with all due respect to people who served the most productive 20 years of their life ensuring you could say that. Tiny amount my A$$, it is tens of thousands. The only person who should be sputtering is you, with an apology. You're welcome.
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Post by deepsea on Dec 22, 2013 6:30:12 GMT -4
Apparently it is a tiny amount of money. A lot of indignant sputtering about nothing much. I'm going to assume you meant that with all due respect to people who served the most productive 20 years of their life ensuring you could say that. Tiny amount my A$$, it is tens of thousands. The only person who should be sputtering is you, with an apology. You're welcome. Freedom of Speech bob66...........alleycat can say what she wants because of the military.
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Post by georgej202 on Dec 22, 2013 19:41:47 GMT -4
Yep. Republicans cutting programs like SNAP, which a HUGE number of military families rely on. Why do Republicans hate America? WTF are you trying to prove here. I dont think anyone is blaming dems for this situtation so why are you harping on the republicans? I personally think both parties need a time out....a very long time out. Where did you get the information thye military utilizes SNAP? or did you pull that one out of your butt. My responses to you sir are done. George
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Post by barnaclebill on Dec 23, 2013 7:24:54 GMT -4
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Post by bluecrabber on Dec 23, 2013 9:17:15 GMT -4
Yep. Republicans cutting programs like SNAP, which a HUGE number of military families rely on. Why do Republicans hate America? Republicans do not hate America.. fact is, I think generally speaking Republicans, or probably better described as Conservative or Moderate thinking people love their country more than liberal elitists. It wasn't the movie actor Ronald Reagan who went to North Vietnam and sucked up to a brutal regime that resulted in the death of Americans. What many conservative people in this country do hate is the deterioration of what made this country great. Personal responsibility and freedom. Way too many people are reliant on the Government (translates to working taxpayers) for a handout. They do not want to work. Why work when they can sit home and get incredible benefits including everything from free rent to food, health care, and cell phones? And add to that conundrum the continued assault on the freedoms of people who do care about this country under the guise of protecting us from ourselves and falling in lock step with the new world order.. :/
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Post by alleycat on Dec 23, 2013 16:04:10 GMT -4
Apparently it is a tiny amount of money. A lot of indignant sputtering about nothing much. I'm going to assume you meant that with all due respect to people who served the most productive 20 years of their life ensuring you could say that. Tiny amount my A$$, it is tens of thousands. The only person who should be sputtering is you, with an apology. You're welcome. I had many years with the military. I absolutely have respect for what they do and sacrifice. As with everything, one can't get emotional and and defensive and insular. All the issues and problems and solutions are bigger than we are. Merry Christmas.
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Post by bob66 on Dec 23, 2013 16:59:07 GMT -4
"As with everything, one can't get emotional and and defensive and insular. All the issues and problems and solutions are bigger than we are."
What kind of horse crap is that? I should have an open mind about losing upwards of $30,000.00 of my pension (folks who retire right now at my rank stand to lose $80,000.00+) and not be so defensive or emotional? I should be told that this is a tiny amount of money and that what I'm saying is a lot of indignant sputtering about nothing much? We should bend over and take it for the greater good? I highly doubt you would say any of this nonsense if you were in our shoes. I for one am tired of "giving" to solve problems I didn't create. Maybe you should take a look at some of the programs and entitlements that are NOT being cut and see how many of those you agree with. I'm done with this.
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Post by Water Lady on Dec 23, 2013 18:06:21 GMT -4
I'm going to assume you meant that with all due respect to people who served the most productive 20 years of their life ensuring you could say that. Tiny amount my A$$, it is tens of thousands. The only person who should be sputtering is you, with an apology. You're welcome. I had many years with the military. I absolutely have respect for what they do and sacrifice. As with everything, one can't get emotional and and defensive and insular. All the issues and problems and solutions are bigger than we are. Merry Christmas. You "had" many years "with" the military? You absolutely have respect for what "they" do...? I SERIOUSLY DOUBT you ever served a day in your winy little life - but go on and exercise your Military protected right to tell the rest of us who is indignant and so on... Looking back over a lot of your posts, it seems at times that you are just lurking around waiting to have a left-knee jerk reaction to some topic or another and can't "tolerate" being challenged on any of your one or two-line, snarky little quips... How about YOU give it a rest for a change!
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Post by alleycat on Dec 23, 2013 18:40:39 GMT -4
Bye
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Post by deepsea on Dec 23, 2013 20:36:57 GMT -4
I had many years with the military. I absolutely have respect for what they do and sacrifice. As with everything, one can't get emotional and and defensive and insular. All the issues and problems and solutions are bigger than we are. Merry Christmas. Hahahahahahahahahaha! You must of been a follower of General Hooker's Army?
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Post by georgej202 on Dec 24, 2013 11:56:27 GMT -4
I stand corrected, the problem is much worse then I thought George
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Post by lainey on Jan 1, 2014 14:10:05 GMT -4
I stand corrected, the problem is much worse then I thought George Andy Harris, our Congressman, voted to reduce these benefits. Remember that come November 2014.
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Post by frankf on Jan 1, 2014 16:08:11 GMT -4
Yep. Republicans cutting programs like SNAP, which a HUGE number of military families rely on. Why do Republicans hate America? It wasn't the movie actor Ronald Reagan who went to North Vietnam and sucked up to a brutal regime that resulted in the death of Americans.
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