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Post by jenm on Aug 7, 2014 11:26:54 GMT -4
So I can't help feeling frustrated that both the Commissioner's Office and the Department of Housing are refusing to answer any questions regarding the site location or the project. All questions are being directed to Krista Pettit, who is conveniently not answering her phone nor returning calls. I was told, however, that the meeting on the 25th will ONLY be a comment period, and will not have a Q&A portion as the meeting currently stands. So basically, everyone in attendance can stand up and say their peace for three minutes, and then sit down. I fail to see what this is going to accomplish.
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Post by OscarsDad4 on Aug 7, 2014 12:19:33 GMT -4
So I can't help feeling frustrated that both the Commissioner's Office and the Department of Housing are refusing to answer any questions regarding the site location or the project. All questions are being directed to Krista Pettit, who is conveniently not answering her phone nor returning calls. I was told, however, that the meeting on the 25th will ONLY be a comment period, and will not have a Q&A portion as the meeting currently stands. So basically, everyone in attendance can stand up and say their peace for three minutes, and then sit down. I fail to see what this is going to accomplish. They're being pressured to answer questions too. I wouldn't give up on that. Either way, if the commissioners see hundreds of their concerned citizens speaking about their concerns and HOW THEY WERE NOT INFORMED, they'll feel the pressure to reconsider the location. That's what these exercises are about. We need to have a significant presence.
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Post by jenm on Aug 7, 2014 12:39:17 GMT -4
Update: Finally got to Krista on the phone. She did not have a legitimate answer for any of my questions and hung up on me when we were still talking. I asked about safety, explained my background, and asked about the location. Her only response was "that doesn't happen here" and hung up. This to me is not a way to build community support. I was completely blown off.
I finally got a hold of someone at Community Services, who was very nice and answered all of my questions thoughtfully, and understood where I was coming from. However, he only carries out orders and doesn't make any decisions.
So basically I'm not sure where to go from here. No one has any answers to very valid questions. I look forward to seeing what happens at the meeting on the 25th.
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Post by Workingman on Aug 7, 2014 13:40:09 GMT -4
Funny that Oscarsdad gets attacked for having a "Not in My Backyard" or "NIMBY" mentality, when from the sounds of it, this shelter is actually going to be in his backyard. Most posting here probably live nowhere near the site in question (myself included). How many of you can honestly say that you would knowingly buy property if you knew that this shelter was going to be in your backyard? How many of you can honestly say that you would be happy to find out that this shelter was being built next to or down the street from your existing home? To date I haven't heard of any issues with the existing shelter, and believe that they have done good work, but Oscarsdad has raised some good questions about how the new facility will be used, and he seems more than willing to listen. Kitransplant, Well no matter how I say this it will come off as "Not in my backyard" and make me a bad guy. I live within walking distance of this proposed site and my son goes to the elementary school there as well. I bought my house last year and if I new that a shelter was going to be built on State Street I don't think I would have purchased this house. As I have said before I have had a few incidents at my old house and I didn't like the feeling of being powerless and not being able to protect my family.. I work very hard to provide for my family and to keep them safe and I just want to feel safe at night when my son an wife go to bed as I hope that everyone on this site feels the same way.. What my problem is is the lack of information that is coming out to the public. Also how it has being past through the QAC council members, police and fire and it seems as though this has been given the green light without the communities input on this. I know the Transition house is a great idea and I am ALL for that and admire Krista for what she is doing. A 4 bedroom house and the people living there need to follow rules and meet goals and making strides to get back on there feet. But this new 8 THOUSAND square foot facility is just a little much and makes me nervous because I do not know a lot about it.. It was at first going to be a transitional and seasonal homeless shelter but now it looks like it is going to be a transitional and year round homeless shelter and what if hole facility becomes a homeless shelter? How will the community be notified of that and will we have a say in that?
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Post by jennyg on Aug 7, 2014 13:56:35 GMT -4
No good deed goes unpunished. Just as the R's was torn down because the property owner went with McDonalds as was within their right to choose. This project would not be so far along without applying for and receiving the proper zoning, permits, etc. I wonder how many even knew of the shelter's existence until now. God forbid a person loses their place to sleep and would be helped by another, at least NIMBY. Sad.
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Post by KITransplant on Aug 7, 2014 13:56:41 GMT -4
Irishmc, I'm glad you show an interest in what is going on in the community. Often those trying to slap a "NIMBY" label on folks do so from the luxury of their subdivisions or significant acreage. In other words, they and their families will not ever run any real risk of encountering the types of scenarios that you, jenm, oscarsdad, and others are concerned about.
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Post by frankf on Aug 7, 2014 14:03:13 GMT -4
Kitransplant, Well no matter how I say this it will come off as "Not in my backyard" and make me a bad guy. I live within walking distance of this proposed site and my son goes to the elementary school there as well. I bought my house last year and if I new that a shelter was going to be built on State Street I don't think I would have purchased this house. As I have said before I have had a few incidents at my old house and I didn't like the feeling of being powerless and not being able to protect my family.. I work very hard to provide for my family and to keep them safe and I just want to feel safe at night when my son an wife go to bed as I hope that everyone on this site feels the same way.. What my problem is is the lack of information that is coming out to the public. Also how it has being past through the QAC council members, police and fire and it seems as though this has been given the green light without the communities input on this. I know the Transition house is a great idea and I am ALL for that and admire Krista for what she is doing. A 4 bedroom house and the people living there need to follow rules and meet goals and making strides to get back on there feet. But this new 8 THOUSAND square foot facility is just a little much and makes me nervous because I do not know a lot about it.. It was at first going to be a transitional and seasonal homeless shelter but now it looks like it is going to be a transitional and year round homeless shelter and what if hole facility becomes a homeless shelter? How will the community be notified of that and will we have a say in that? The facility has been in OPERATION for 4-5 years in the same location with no problems.An average sized house is 2,000 or so sq ft. So this facility is equivalent to 4 average sized houses. Hardly some huge warehouse as you seem to believe. With offices, meeting rooms, kitchen, and computer room (as described by Haven) that doesn't leave a tremendous amount of space for those living in it. You can have a private organization move in next door to you at anytime. I know. I did in a previous home. And there is NOTHING you can do about it due to the Americans with Disabilities Act. If anything I'd be more concerned with a transitional home than a homeless shelter. Though that has been proven to not be a concern by this facility's ability to properly run the existing one in the same location. This facility is surrounded by businesses and is a pretty good walk to any existing homes with the exception of those on down State Street. It amazes me how fast the christian love for their fellow man disappears on this island.
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Post by KITransplant on Aug 7, 2014 14:17:57 GMT -4
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Post by bols43 on Aug 7, 2014 15:22:49 GMT -4
I AM PROUD TO BE A "NIMBY" IT MEANS I CARE ABOUT MY NEIGHBORHOOD. GUESS WHAT ELSE I AM A NIMBY ABOUT? DRUGS, TRASH, AND CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. I DONT WANT FRACKING, OIL RIGS, IN THE CHEASEPEAKE. NIMBY. I LOVE BEING A NIMBY. MOVE OUT OF MY NIMBY NEIGHBORHOOD IF YOU DONT LIKE IT. PUT THE SHELTER IN YOUR HOUSE.
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Post by bols43 on Aug 7, 2014 15:35:02 GMT -4
It amazes me how fast the christian love for their fellow man disappears on this island.
"Go to church and pray for me" Stop throwing God at everyone and everything. Make God raise home values and stop sending us homeless. Make God make homeless get a job. Make God make drugs disappear. Make God reduce crime. Make God not allow man and woman to make babies that they cant afford. God didn't do any of this. God didn't make me loose my job. God didn't tell me not to study. God didn't tell me to make poor choices. "TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS" ITS NO ONES FAULT EXCEPT YOUR OWN. NO ONE SHOULD TAKE CARE OF ME, I TAKE CARE OF MYSELF.
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Post by Workingman on Aug 7, 2014 15:57:55 GMT -4
Kitransplant, Well no matter how I say this it will come off as "Not in my backyard" and make me a bad guy. I live within walking distance of this proposed site and my son goes to the elementary school there as well. I bought my house last year and if I new that a shelter was going to be built on State Street I don't think I would have purchased this house. As I have said before I have had a few incidents at my old house and I didn't like the feeling of being powerless and not being able to protect my family.. I work very hard to provide for my family and to keep them safe and I just want to feel safe at night when my son an wife go to bed as I hope that everyone on this site feels the same way.. What my problem is is the lack of information that is coming out to the public. Also how it has being past through the QAC council members, police and fire and it seems as though this has been given the green light without the communities input on this. I know the Transition house is a great idea and I am ALL for that and admire Krista for what she is doing. A 4 bedroom house and the people living there need to follow rules and meet goals and making strides to get back on there feet. But this new 8 THOUSAND square foot facility is just a little much and makes me nervous because I do not know a lot about it.. It was at first going to be a transitional and seasonal homeless shelter but now it looks like it is going to be a transitional and year round homeless shelter and what if hole facility becomes a homeless shelter? How will the community be notified of that and will we have a say in that? The facility has been in OPERATION for 4-5 years in the same location with no problems.An average sized house is 2,000 or so sq ft. So this facility is equivalent to 4 average sized houses. Hardly some huge warehouse as you seem to believe. With offices, meeting rooms, kitchen, and computer room (as described by Haven) that doesn't leave a tremendous amount of space for those living in it. You can have a private organization move in next door to you at anytime. I know. I did in a previous home. And there is NOTHING you can do about it due to the Americans with Disabilities Act. If anything I'd be more concerned with a transitional home than a homeless shelter. Though that has been proven to not be a concern by this facility's ability to properly run the existing one in the same location. This facility is surrounded by businesses and is a pretty good walk to any existing homes with the exception of those on down State Street. It amazes me how fast the christian love for their fellow man disappears on this island. The transition home you speak of is ONE home and it's been great, I haven't had any issue with that house in the year that I have been living here. Maybe Haven can buy more transitional houses around Stevensville and keep doing the great job that they are doing. But a larger facility creates the potential for something to go wrong. I was at a homeless shelter when they turned a man away because of well what the facility said, "He was a potential risk for the people in the facility" Well there ya go.. He left the facility pretty pist-off and where he went I don't know but it does happen and my house and others are in close walking distance..
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Post by lainey on Aug 7, 2014 16:57:18 GMT -4
The facility has been in OPERATION for 4-5 years in the same location with no problems.An average sized house is 2,000 or so sq ft. So this facility is equivalent to 4 average sized houses. Hardly some huge warehouse as you seem to believe. With offices, meeting rooms, kitchen, and computer room (as described by Haven) that doesn't leave a tremendous amount of space for those living in it. You can have a private organization move in next door to you at anytime. I know. I did in a previous home. And there is NOTHING you can do about it due to the Americans with Disabilities Act. If anything I'd be more concerned with a transitional home than a homeless shelter. Though that has been proven to not be a concern by this facility's ability to properly run the existing one in the same location. This facility is surrounded by businesses and is a pretty good walk to any existing homes with the exception of those on down State Street. It amazes me how fast the christian love for their fellow man disappears on this island. The transition home you speak of is ONE home and it's been great, I haven't had any issue with that house in the year that I have been living here. Maybe Haven can buy more transitional houses around Stevensville and keep doing the great job that they are doing. But a larger facility creates the potential for something to go wrong. I was at a homeless shelter when they turned a man away because of well what the facility said, "He was a potential risk for the people in the facility" Well there ya go.. He left the facility pretty pist-off and where he went I don't know but it does happen and my house and others are in close walking distance.. The homeless are still out there whether we put them in a shelter or not. They are still in our communities and neighborhoods. You are not "confining" them to State Street by enlarging the "Transition/Shelter/Home for the Homeless" at 325 State Street. Crime happens everywhere, your home could be broken into again. The homeless may have nothing to do with it. I dont understand why everyone is so riled up over this.
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Post by bols43 on Aug 7, 2014 17:13:01 GMT -4
Everyone is riled up because YOU are encouraging homeless to come to Stevensville. If Im homeless in Annapolis and I see this new facility I want to come to Stevensville, If I homeless in Chester, Centreville, I want to go to the new place in Stevensville.
IF THIS IS TRUELY FOR STEVENSVILLE RESIDENTS, THEN FINE. BUT WE DO NOT WANT TO IMPORT HOMELESS PEOPLE.
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Post by bols43 on Aug 7, 2014 17:13:57 GMT -4
id rather export them
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Post by bols43 on Aug 7, 2014 17:17:22 GMT -4
Why cant we build a 8800 square foot movie theater??? How about a 8800 square foot miniature golf course "putt putt" How about a skating rink? ??
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Post by OscarsDad4 on Aug 7, 2014 17:24:35 GMT -4
If you don't stand up for your own back yard, who will?
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Post by bob66 on Aug 7, 2014 19:10:49 GMT -4
Why cant we build a 8800 square foot movie theater??? How about a 8800 square foot miniature golf course "putt putt" How about a skating rink? ?? Yeah!!! Then we could bury those homeless bastages under the foundations...... Jesus... Lighten up, Francis...
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Post by rdkntriker on Aug 7, 2014 19:40:07 GMT -4
Interesting how some of you make Stevensville and Chester such different places. They are next to each other and are both on Kent Island. Annapolis homeless won't come here to expensive to cross the bridge, if they have a car. Centreville may as it is a shelter for QA county and that is in the county.
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Post by mikey on Aug 7, 2014 20:14:49 GMT -4
Mikey how does this add to home values? You must not own the home you talk about living in. When you buy a home in a neighborhood, you want and pray values go up. A homeless shelter does not increase property value. Stevensville could be the most exclusive community in Maryland. It could be bethesda,md. But it won't because we are helping everyone except ourselves. If I become homeless, I expect to live in the ghetto. When I work I expect to live with working people. Hey bols43 - Which neighborhood are we talking about? The facilitiy is in the middle of several construction-type businesses, a junk yard and a MDOT salting facility. I am around the corner from the facility, and I do own my house. I am more concerned about the construction-type businesses in the neighborhood reducing my home value than this facility.
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Post by eileen on Aug 8, 2014 12:24:49 GMT -4
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Post by bols43 on Aug 8, 2014 12:52:22 GMT -4
Awesome, marketing 101 for all you people for a shelter.
Would most people rather move to a home near a park and a highschool or would they rather move next to a shelter.
If you choose shelter, you get an F.
I agree Chester and Stevensville is one as is Kent Island.
Move the homeless off the Island, so my wife can run on the trails by herself.
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Post by pineapple head on Aug 8, 2014 13:21:58 GMT -4
Put the shelter next to Krista's house or Wanda Shephard's. Build it next to Queen Annes County City Hall. Queen Annes county has 183 Homeless? HOW MANY HOMELESS PEOPLE LIVE IN STEVENSVILLE? / BUILD THE HOMELESS SHELTER IN CENTREVILLE. BUILD IT AS BIG AS YOU WANT IN CENTREVILLE. USE KRISTA'S HOUSE. Krista can come to work with me for a day in D.C.I moved out of D.C. to live here, but commute there to get away from this B.S. It's nice to see someone join this page who understands rational discussion and is tactful enough not to unnecessarilly attack private individuals ... Or it would be nice. Until two days ago, this thread had turned into a more civilized discussion of differing opinions and concerns, approaching constructive discourse. Let's not allow a new member to derail a legitimate discussion by carpet-bombing the thread with dozens of tourettes-like, hateful, incoherant rants. Ignoring him reinforces the other, credible comments. Don't feed the troll.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 20:44:13 GMT -4
Come on people. The homeless are already here. They are just getting a new safe place to sleep. Like many others have already said, they are not criminals. They are homeless.
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Post by RobMoore on Aug 8, 2014 21:51:39 GMT -4
Awesome, marketing 101 for all you people for a shelter. Would most people rather move to a home near a park and a highschool or would they rather move next to a shelter. If you choose shelter, you get an F. I agree Chester and Stevensville is one as is Kent Island. Move the homeless off the Island, so my wife can run on the trails by herself. Your wife is at more danger from the many sexual predators living on the island, which you can find with google, than from the homeless population. Why are we more concerned about the homeless than the convicted sex offenders?
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Post by bols43 on Aug 9, 2014 1:44:26 GMT -4
I bet the same people for the shelter, are the same people that believe sex offenders wont do it again. They deserve a second chance? Export the sex offenders too. They are not going to up property value.
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