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Post by kl on Aug 25, 2008 8:48:58 GMT -4
kl - my friend you are exactly right. Unfortunately that could be a 10-15 page thread all by itself. I hear ya!!!! And hope your rep's holding up!!
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Post by shadow1 on Aug 25, 2008 9:23:24 GMT -4
What's finance options got to do with Lacrosse Homes?
We bought from Lacrosse in Grasonville - I would consider the homes average quality. Management, and especially the sales rep and project manager's (at our location) slightly less. The location is what kept our interest during the building phase.
Chickennecker11 - though we made the effort to keep an eye on construction throughout the process, many of us don't have the time to do it every day. I tried to schedule an independent home inspector to make periodic inspections, and Lacrosse constantly changed the schedule from what we were told - makes you wonder why.
Debwilt629 - if your friends father happens to be one local attorney and developer (MF), than good luck to anyone trying to get an honest answer, especially with his connections with the county. If you are talking about someone different disregard. There is actually only one house on that street , and from what I understand it is being leased.
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Post by deputy on Aug 25, 2008 10:44:59 GMT -4
What's finance options got to do with Lacrosse Homes? Nothing, remember where you are.....
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Post by shorti on Aug 25, 2008 11:45:15 GMT -4
I hate to tell y'all but ALL major builders & some of the smaller custom ones are average... Now I used to work for one of the largest builders in the US & they had the same problems everyone else did... it's a double edged sword actually... from the builder side - like someone said - you are hostage to the subs - for the most part... but the problem is that the builder is looking for a $10 job from a $3 contractor - lowest bid wins & then you potentially & alot of times do - have the problems - get what you pay for theory... however, subs aren't the only problem... homeowners are too.... that's right I said it... Not all of you - but there are some that are there daily & wanting things done this way or that way - & some of it is legit - but alot of it isnt... for instance... we had one homeowner that was there daily & before the roof was up - she was complaining about water in her basement after it had just rained for 3 days straight... no duh! I don't even think it was completely framed yet... ok moving on... it can be an issue because you have the homeowners that are over the top and that makes it bad for all the others... not right - i know... but it's what happens... Also - and this is going to spike some nerves - but there are the homeowners that either are, have been, did it once or know someone who have built a house & they KNOW IT ALL... without going into alot of explanation you guys get what I am saying.. .now there are some that are legit.... but not too many... ohh.. & i love these - the ones that know someone in local legislation or something like that - I LOVE THOSE ONES...
another issue is that (while it shouldn't be a problem now) the super's are super busy... and then don't have the time (not a valid excuse but one nonetheless) to address every concern timely or to be on top of all the subs like they should & the reason they are so busy is because the company is making ridiculous demands on them to make numbers... example... one of our communities - we had a super that the WHOLE division was relying on to make the "quota" for the quarter - EVERY QUARTER! He would be pushed to close 15-20 homes in a month... that leaves alot of room for errors & things getting missed...
However, at least w/ the company i worked for & i now work for a sub that serves alot of big builders and they have it too... but they have opportunities for the homeowner to address concerns at various stages of construction. like the company i worked for we had a pre-construction meeting - before the ground was broken to go over all options, selections, plans, etc... then there was a pre-drywall meeting - to go back over all options - walk thru the house & this way if there are any major changes to be made - then is the time before walls are actually up... then there was a meeting before settlement to walk thru the house - go over everything in detail & if there was anything to be done or fixed - it would be before settlement... so ideally by the time they are at the table they should have fixed any problems w/ the house... then there is a call that happens @ 1month after settlement ot see if there are any problems that need to be addressed immediately... then there is the 6 month walk inspection... this is where the homeowner sends in a list of problems (mostly nail pops, etc) and a service manager comes out walks thru the house & list w/ the homeowner & then the work is scheduled for their concerns to be addressed. And to top it all off - they have a 1 year builder warranty where the builder will fix any problems for 1 year from date of settlement... now with all of that... you would think things don't get missed or someone wouldn't drop the ball - but it does happen...
anyway - just my opinion... i've seen it from the builder side...
now - as far as lacrosse... i've never heard anything super bad about them - other than what you would hear about any builder...
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Post by debwilt629 on Aug 25, 2008 12:30:18 GMT -4
I thought they had built more house back there but there is only one. I know when the house was first built it was listed in the 700's now I think it is listed at 624. I'm not sure if mf is connected to the builder or not. We all now about him in our development. The house is incredilble stainless steel appliances ceramic tile flooring 2 sided fireplace timbertek deck on a 1/2 acre. We drove back the other day and there was a momma deer and her baby eating grass just looked so nice and peaceful.
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Post by ljp on Aug 25, 2008 22:56:27 GMT -4
um...wow...I go offline for a few days, had no idea Necker had such issues! You well know what our problems were and are with our home. We didn't have any choice as things changed on us at the last minute with Lacrosse and were stuck with what we got. We thought that most of the problems we had were superficial that we would fix/ change later, it wasn't until after we settled that we realized how bad it was. You guys are right, if the builder chooses labor that isn't reflective of their business practice, well then who's fault is it? They shouldn't hire crappy labor. When I speak of Lacrosse well then it is really as a whole. Their sales rep sucked but he was the representative of the company we dealt with, so it's Lacrosse. Their project manager lied about many things, again it's Lacrosse. Should I take that statement personally about being lazy and putting time back into my house? Is there something about it you don't like?
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Post by chickennecker11 on Aug 25, 2008 23:44:03 GMT -4
No issues - just my "OPINION"...... ljp - Ck your pm
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Post by ljp on Aug 26, 2008 10:17:17 GMT -4
aaahhh.... me thinks Necker forgot he knew me!!
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Post by LKW on Aug 28, 2008 11:19:18 GMT -4
Our home is in The Woods community. It is 10 years old. I guess it wasn't the best time for them because they kept losing crew and we had to stay on top of them the whole time. I had to stand in the kitchen hours before settlement and keep showing them the things that still were not completed. They went about three weeks prior without even working on the house and didn't finish everything prior to settlement. The final punch list was NOT completed. We were approached by a few other neighbors to start with a lawsuit due to various problems with our homes but we declined. We thought the family reputation would keep them true and honest and hope the newer homes are constructed better. But, we will not use them again.
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Post by Mike on Aug 28, 2008 12:27:37 GMT -4
Oh no.. another Woods resident... I wonder who it is?! Someone from my side
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Post by kisinceiwas5 on Aug 30, 2008 22:17:09 GMT -4
go to www.courts.state.md.us and search the court records for lacrosse homes...they had a few judgments against them recently b/c well, no one's buying homes and it's tough to pay for all those loans they took out to build them. I'm just curious to know if, when you do buy a Lacrosse Home, whether their judgment status will prevent them from being able to sell a home, because in Maryland you can't transfer property if there are liens against them. But, I'm not a lawyer, who knows, the judgments are with the bank, perhaps they can work to have some of them partially released as they sell homes to pay down their debt... I don't know, I've never heard about bad quality from Lacrosse - just be wary about homebuying from a company that is in some debt, they may be cutting corners to get property off their hands.
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Post by guest on Sept 3, 2008 14:44:48 GMT -4
best bet would be to contact local home inspectors. they could give good insight if they keep good records of their inspections of that builder's homes
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