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Post by guest on Dec 1, 2008 18:55:45 GMT -4
I think the biggest thing that will improve safety on the highways is better drivers education. I had drivers ED here in Queen Anne's High School (yes a long time ago!). And if you didn't pass the course, you didn't get your permit. Now, the drivers ED is paid for and it is just a money making operation and they pretty much could care less about the quality of the student drivers. Fill those seat with those 300.00 to 400.00 per student man!
If you notice, a lot of the young drivers don't now what "yield means" or signaling.
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Post by falgar25 on Dec 1, 2008 19:26:09 GMT -4
anyone else think its ironic that rt 8 is a 2 lane road with 50 mph limit. But rt 50 which is a six lane road is only 5 mph more? If 55 is the safe speed on a 6 lane road then shouldn't a 2 lane road be more like 30 35 by the law maker standards? PLEASE be careful what you wish for, you might just get it. There used to be a straight shot from Romancoke Rd. to Kent Point Rd. before someone made a silly comment. I grew up driving 55 mph or 60 mph on roads not quite as wide as Rt. 8. If there is any correction to be made, let's increase the posted speed on 50 to the 65mph to 70mph that the majority of cars are travelling anyway.
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Post by emsguru on Dec 2, 2008 1:35:55 GMT -4
anyone else think its ironic that rt 8 is a 2 lane road with 50 mph limit. But rt 50 which is a six lane road is only 5 mph more? If 55 is the safe speed on a 6 lane road then shouldn't a 2 lane road be more like 30 35 by the law maker standards? PLEASE be careful what you wish for, you might just get it. There used to be a straight shot from Romancoke Rd. to Kent Point Rd. before someone made a silly comment. I grew up driving 55 mph or 60 mph on roads not quite as wide as Rt. 8. If there is any correction to be made, let's increase the posted speed on 50 to the 65mph to 70mph that the majority of cars are travelling anyway. exactly. Just think its silly that there is only a 5mph difference. 65 should be limit on highways and instead of going after speeders, create strict laws on aggressive driving. I saw a special once that took place in germany on the autoban. They had a camera set up on an overpass that looked down at the road. They had a van with a police officer inside. They had electronic signs saying "this is how far you need to be away from the person infront of you...". If you were too close they took a picture of you driving too close and sent you a ticket.
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Post by RobMoore on Dec 3, 2008 13:42:49 GMT -4
Well somethings they have in Germany that we don't have
1. Better roads :For one, the foundation is thicker. It stays smooth longer. 2. Better drivers: the path to a license is much tougher 3. Laws against passing on the right, and enforcement of slower traffic keep right. All passing is done on the left, and people actually GET OVER for faster cars.
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Post by Kenny Rhodes on Dec 14, 2008 18:17:13 GMT -4
Any real law enforcement agency would revise their policy "before inocent people are killed." Unfortunately, the Maryland State Police would prefer to kill innocent people first, "then rewrite the policy."
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Post by RobMoore on Dec 14, 2008 21:52:01 GMT -4
You just set your point of view back a few paces with that post.
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Post by Guest on Dec 14, 2008 23:17:41 GMT -4
Any real law enforcement agency would revise their policy "before inocent people are killed." Unfortunately, the Maryland State Police would prefer to kill innocent people first, "then rewrite the policy." Hail President Rhodes
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Post by GPSoff35days on Dec 15, 2008 10:14:28 GMT -4
Well somethings they have in Germany that we don't have 1. Better roads :For one, the foundation is thicker. It stays smooth longer. 2. Better drivers: the path to a license is much tougher 3. Laws against passing on the right, and enforcement of slower traffic keep right. All passing is done on the left, and people actually GET OVER for faster cars. In many European countries, they will take your license away from you in a heartbeat for violations.
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Post by deputy on Dec 15, 2008 10:57:51 GMT -4
Good for them. ::shrugs shoulders::
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Post by RobMoore on Dec 15, 2008 10:58:38 GMT -4
They don't know what "Accident Forgiveness" means.
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Post by deputy on Dec 15, 2008 11:00:57 GMT -4
They do here, the truck driver on I-97 that rear ended and killed the driver got off with points and a fine... Truck drivers should be held to a higher standard for the weights they carry and the dangers they pose if they make a mistake. CDL anyone
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Post by cheapshotartist on Dec 15, 2008 19:15:11 GMT -4
Any real law enforcement agency would revise their policy "before inocent people are killed." Unfortunately, the Maryland State Police would prefer to kill innocent people first, "then rewrite the policy." I'm confused
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Post by foofighter on Dec 26, 2008 13:55:09 GMT -4
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Post by mcbeth on Dec 26, 2008 14:00:39 GMT -4
Quite a number of problems going on for that young man. Hopefully he'll get his life in order, but in the meantime, he screwed up BIGtime....
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Post by KICarpenter on Dec 31, 2008 15:41:42 GMT -4
I just saw this thread for the first time! I agree with cruisers going too fast on the road just because they can. I was on the bay bridge a couple months ago heading west bound where all the digital speed signs are. An MTA cruiser came blasting up from behind me with lights on only and was clocked on the speed sign in front of me at 97mph!!!!! That is just ridiculous and totally reckless! When I got over the bridge the rest of the way, I didn't even see a cruiser anywhere on the side of the road responding to a call that I assumed he was going too. Unbelievable!
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Post by bchevy on Dec 31, 2008 16:47:56 GMT -4
MDTA cop this morning, 90+ in front of ACME going WB, no lights, no Siren, don't ask me how I know....
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Post by linda712 on Dec 31, 2008 16:49:43 GMT -4
Bchevy -- HOW DO YOU KNOW? ? (I jus' love to be told "don't) .....sorry.....
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Post by kl on Jan 1, 2009 11:01:51 GMT -4
Yeah Chevy, How did you know? Maybe?
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Post by cheapshotartist on Jan 1, 2009 13:50:10 GMT -4
Has anyone else noticed that the MDTA police seems to be everywhere but the bridge most of the time? I have actually seen them stopping people near the 50-301 interchange near Queenstown. But when they are needed on the bridge they are miles away?
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Post by bchevy on Jan 1, 2009 16:03:28 GMT -4
Yeah, I've been told that soon after 9/11 they used to be wannabe cops on the bridge were given the same powers as our State Troopers....
Anyone else hear that?
I still think they should stay close to the bridge...
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Post by jake on Jan 1, 2009 17:20:30 GMT -4
MDTA cop this morning, 90+ in front of ACME going WB, no lights, no Siren, don't ask me how I know.... I was just getting on the bridge about 7:40am yesterday when he came flying past me doing about 85mph, no lights or siren. I commented to the mrs's about their 'do as I say, not as I do' mentality; frigging idiot could have cause a serious accident on the bridge.
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Post by cheapshotartist on Jan 2, 2009 11:32:18 GMT -4
I don't know about the authority thing but it seems to me that their responsibility should be the bridge, not radar stops for cars in Queenstown.
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Post by foofighter on Jan 2, 2009 19:55:44 GMT -4
Technically MDTA cops DO have the exact same police powers as MSP. As does any Maryland certified police officer (QA sherrifs included) . They all have exactly the same powers of arrest and enforcement anywhere in the state whether on duty or off. The difference lies in department policy. So while a MDTA officer could pull you over legally and legitametly anywhere in the state, they have rules and regulations to follow that usually define a specific authority zone. Last I heard, that zone is 1 mile east and west of the bridge. They certainly could extend it and probably have but they'd likely have to work out something with MSP so they don't 'cross over' territories. The MDTA and MSP are considered 'sister agencies' Hope this info is helpful. -DG Yeah, I've been told that soon after 9/11 they used to be wannabe cops on the bridge were given the same powers as our State Troopers.... Anyone else hear that? I still think they should stay close to the bridge...
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Post by cheapshotartist on Jan 3, 2009 11:10:03 GMT -4
Too much time on my hands, I did a little research!
In 2004, the Governor invoked the authority delegated by the Legislature in TR §4-208(b)(4)(iii) to expand the jurisdiction of the Transportation Authority Police. The Governor directed, in an executive order, as follows: Gen. 51] 53
Those circumstances include joint investigations with other police agencies, situations where the officer is rendering assistance to another officer or is acting at the request of another officer and emergency situations. CP §2-102(b)(3). In those circumstances, the officer must be acting in compliance with the regulations of the officer’s department and must notify certain local police officials. CP §2-102(b)(3)(ii), (c).
The Maryland Transportation Authority Police, while on duty, under the authority of the Chief of the Transportation Authority Police, shall, pursuant to Section 4-208(b)(4)(iii) ... and by this Executive Order, have all the powers granted to a peace officer and a police officer of this State as provided by law, henceforth with expanded jurisdiction and authority to protect its facilities and areas of primary jurisdiction and to enhance the protection and safety of all publicly owned, commercial, and/or common carrier transportation assets throughout the State. The Maryland Transportation Authority shall adopt policies and procedures to implement the provisions of this Executive Order and to ensure the safe, efficient, and cooperative provision of law enforcement services in instances in which the expanded jurisdiction and authority is exercised in this State.
COMAR 01.01.2004.28B (May 18, 2004) (emphasis added). Transportation Authority police officers also have the same authority as other police officers in the State to make arrests, conduct investigations, and otherwise enforce the laws of the State throughout the State in specified circumstances authorized by statute or when acting in fresh pursuit. See Annotated Code of Maryland, Criminal Procedure Article (“CP”), §2-102; see also 89 Opinions of the Attorney General 66, 70-72 (2004); 89 Op
From what I am reading above, they hardly are a sister agency to anyone. I think the above information is from what I am hearing, some judges in Anne Arundel county are dismissing their cases because they are going beyond their area.
Amazing what you can find on the Internet!!
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Post by linda712 on Jan 4, 2009 3:44:07 GMT -4
Wow, thanks Dee Lightful. Don't DNR officers also have a lot more power (?), or authority than most are aware of? Seems as though it was explained to as such some time ago.
Also, has anyone noticed that BChevy isn't answering the "how do you know" questions??? ;D
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