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Post by Rich Fisher on Jun 21, 2007 11:01:48 GMT -4
As a bunch of people have suggested I'm going to post IP addresses on the occasional thread on the forum. I'll only do it once in a while and I'll only post IPs when a thread turns ugly from "trolls" or unregistered posts doing personal attacks, etc.
An I.P. address is a stamp that is assigned to each user on the internet. Nobody can find out who you are, but it can show that one person is posting as several people. Your IP address is unique to each on-line computer, so if you post at work and at home, you will have two different IP addresses.
There have been a few registered users and unregistered users posting under fake names to specifically say mean spirited things about other people on the forum. Hopefully this will be enough to stop that. I hopefully won't have to do this very often. Also - remember that there is a Forum for "Registered Users Only" which is a way of keeping the haters out of your posts.
Thanks for understanding.
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Post by thomas on Jun 21, 2007 16:49:23 GMT -4
Rich, What if we don't feel comfortable with our IP address being posted? Is it a security risk? Thanks,
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Post by moose on Jun 21, 2007 17:27:49 GMT -4
Rich, What if we don't feel comfortable with our IP address being posted? Is it a security risk? Thanks, actually yes it is. If someone wanted to they could ping and send crap to your router or computer.. I know I'm not comfrotable with mine posted..
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Post by BlueMule on Jun 21, 2007 17:42:28 GMT -4
Rich, What if we don't feel comfortable with our IP address being posted? Is it a security risk? Thanks, actually yes it is. If someone wanted to they could ping and send crap to your router or computer.. I know I'm not comfrotable with mine posted.. but... You can delete your own posts if the option to display the IP address is activated on an ugly thread.
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Post by einebierbitte on Jun 21, 2007 17:46:51 GMT -4
Instead of posting IP addresses, why don't you make it where "Guests" posts don't get posted with out approval from the moderators. That will stop all the unwarranted snarky comments because they can't be posted until approved. That will also stop members who don't have the balls to say what they want to say under their own name!
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Post by bchevy on Jun 21, 2007 18:30:32 GMT -4
Instead of posting IP addresses, why don't you make it where "Guests" posts don't get posted with out approval from the moderators. That will stop all the unwarranted snarky comments because they can't be posted until approved. That will also stop members who don't have the balls to say what they want to say under their own name! I like that one. Or better yet: make 'em all register, then ban 'em. Block the IP's that post the ugly crap.
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Post by bchevy on Jun 21, 2007 18:43:04 GMT -4
More:
I'm not comfortable with mine posted either, and I really like this board.
Something needs to be done to cut out the uglies, the attacks, the totally unnecesarry idiot comments that are false, that have nothing to do with the subject at hand, or are just plain ignorant.
I visit other boards with a LOT more members and that behavior is not accepted. People HAVE to register to post on the boards I'm talking about. The problems are few, far between, and dealt with swiftly.
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Post by Rich Fisher on Jun 21, 2007 19:14:31 GMT -4
I deleted the registered members IP addresses and won't post them. How about I post "Guest" ones in the nasty threads only? It still might deter...
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Post by einebierbitte on Jun 22, 2007 0:01:46 GMT -4
Oye...Someone must have not like my reply....I have negative Karma...Geesh...no wonder my day bit!!! LOL!!!
I belong to a couple of private message boards as well, and the have a no tolerance for some of the behavior that is seen here!
I like this board as well, and I am all for everyone has a right to voice their opinions whether I agree with them or not or if it's unpopular or even downright stupid.....But like BChevy said when it gets ugly , or people get attacked....or someone post something totally not relevent....Well then they should be smacked with a frying pan at the very least.
One of the boards I belong to sends 1 warning, the second time they are suspended for 30 days, the third time they are banned. After 1 year they are allowed to come back, then if they act up they are banned permantly.
Plus: Everyone has to register
I think posting IP addresses will not solve anything.
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Post by falgar25 on Jun 22, 2007 6:57:02 GMT -4
Publishing the IPs *might* not cut down on the abusive comments, but it will help keep people honest. If "george," "bob," and "joan" all agree on something, that's cool. If they all come from the same IP, that's fishy. If they are all being abusive and have the same IP as registered user "jean" then that might change the way I respond to "jean" in the future.
Publishing IPs adds just the tiniest bit of security risk. Anyone who is interested in breaking into your computer can easily find what addresses are out there; publishing an IP saves just one tiny step for them. Now, if you put a lot of personal information in your posts and then someone finds out what address you are using, it *could* help them attack your system, but spending time to read all the posts is probably more work than they would be willing to do.
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Post by Frank on Jun 22, 2007 8:18:44 GMT -4
How about a partial IP #? Maybe the last four digits. (********1234) This would still be rare to have two posters with identical last four digits, but impossible for anyone to figure out.
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Post by mikey on Jun 22, 2007 11:46:25 GMT -4
I am curious to know who is leading the double life. I say out'em !!
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Post by outlaw on Jun 22, 2007 11:56:48 GMT -4
I'd like to know too.
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Post by bchevy on Jun 22, 2007 11:57:02 GMT -4
I am curious to know who is leading the double life. I say out'em !! How about Rich just posts the double dippers!
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Post by Frank on Jun 22, 2007 12:35:42 GMT -4
Can incoming posts from a certain IP address be banned? This way anyone identified as posting questionable remarks couldn't post from their computer.
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Post by Rich Fisher on Jun 22, 2007 12:50:30 GMT -4
Yup - I can ban posters by using their I.P. addresses. I've blocked a bunch of spammers so far.
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Post by moose on Jun 22, 2007 16:31:11 GMT -4
You can ban the ip, but like mine it just keeps changing everytime I pull up the internet. Unless you have static IP address, blocking the ips really doesn't work.
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Post by ljp on Jun 22, 2007 22:09:22 GMT -4
Even though a DHCP (service) leases you an IP address when you log on, chances are 9.99 times out of 10 you will get the same address when you log on later even if it is like a month later. It doesn't have to be static.
Here's the million dollar question: Why can't we just ignore the posts we don't like? There are a few threads on here I don't even read. Then there are a few that I read and see strange or idiotic comments and I move on...
We are capable of it, just recently there were some crazy posts in a thread about Carinis and no one responded. That would be because we were ignoring them.
Behavior on boards that is not tolerated is the same behavior that is banned here. Cursing, threatening etc. (you would be surprised how much Rich removes daily.) If this were a board about cars or about knitting, I could see getting up in arms about some bad english typer yelling crazy Howard Stern like expletives. But this is a local board about anything we so desire to type about. No offense you guys but MAN y’all sound like a bunch of women. (sorry girls)
Even if we don't like some of the things that lurkers say, they are still free to say it. To remove any and every post that Rich might 'think' 'might' offend another member is censorship and for a guy that has a full time job plus some AND runs a free board, that is a heck of a lot of work!! Plus: It gives us something to talk about on a slow news day...
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Post by thomas on Jun 22, 2007 22:36:57 GMT -4
ljp I agree!
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Post by ljp on Jun 23, 2007 16:29:53 GMT -4
wow...and I STILL lose Karma....
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Post by bchevy on Jun 24, 2007 6:56:01 GMT -4
Even if we don't like some of the things that lurkers say, they are still free to say it. Nah, not on someone elses board that you have to register to use... Oh that's right, trolls and lurkers don't need to do that.... When you run the board you have that freedom. Not when you just post on it. Rich's board, Rich's rules. Make 'em sign up
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Post by Rich Fisher on Jun 24, 2007 11:51:00 GMT -4
If I make this a registerred-only board, then it would mean that the current "Registerred Only" board would have to be deleted. Right now, this Forum gets way more traffic than the other one, and as the site owner I am trying to get as much traffic as possible. The more people that use this site, then the more of a chance that we can make a go of actually turning a profit on this thing... Its been hard to convice businesses that this site actually has many more readers than the "Update", "What's Up Magazine", the local Pennysaver, and any of the other area competitors online. The more people that I can get to talk about this site, and the Forum does have that potential to create a 'buzz', then maybe some local businesses will take advantage of the 20,000 unique hits a month that this site gets. I don't know if it's because local business owners don't actually live here and don't have a reason to look at a site that targets this area, or if they are just not aware that advertising on a website will help them. It's been a tough one for nearly ten years now. It would be nice to receive a check rather than to keep paying for this thing I'll keep a tighter lid on this board as far as deleting trollers, etc. When you see one, don't respond to them this way they can just be deleted without anyone noticing. Thanks!
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Post by Rhode Dawg on Jul 7, 2007 17:33:09 GMT -4
What other personal information are you collecting on us? Do you have a warning posted somewhere on this site?
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Post by Rich Fisher on Jul 8, 2007 11:11:31 GMT -4
I don't collect any info on anyone. The service that provides this forum to use with KI Online places an I.P. stamp on each post for me to be able to ban people from using the Forum if they are harassing others or whatever. That's it.
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Post by shoreman on Jul 19, 2007 16:40:02 GMT -4
I dunno about collection IP's but I do think that if you don't register you should not be allowed to start a thread. Just my 2c
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