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Post by native on Feb 19, 2006 18:45:37 GMT -4
Paul, I know what I wrote thank you very much, since I was original enough to write my own post and not just copy and paste out of someone else's and I'm not sure if you realize this but you just wasted half of a page to repeat what I said. I'm glad you know what facetious means and yes you are right on the nose, I am exaggerating. Good job, I guess that college degree of yours was worth it after all. But in case you didn't realize it, all of your first quotes were from my first post, before you even tried to insult me, so no they weren't directed at you personally but I guess you are so insecure that they affected you that much. Please don't ever insult my intelligence again by calling me poor, illiterate, and acting like you are better than me by being my personal dictionary. I would not have typed what I did, if I did not have my reasons the facts right and did not know the meaning of the words I was using. I am not a shameful miserable or bitter person; in fact I have a lot of friends and love life. Oh yeah, the massive developments that I am talking about are at the business park and every piece of waterfront property on the Island. I'm also surprised that you caught on that the number 50 was also exaggerated. How about from now on you try arguing your points with some real reasons and facts and stop telling me what you think I am. Thanks for your time though, you are reacting just like I thought you would, and proving all of my points about people like you.
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Post by Jerry on Feb 19, 2006 23:43:55 GMT -4
I think native needs to stop by the drug store and get some "happy"pills. Chill out. Your what's wrong with this island...I mean society.
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Post by native on Feb 20, 2006 0:12:17 GMT -4
Jerry, why don't you read what I'm saying and try to hinder your unintelligent insults? If I was looking for a cheap, ignorant, immature, chicken necker response I would have posted my statement in the Rockville Gazette. Of course you can't see what’s wrong around here because it’s becoming exactly what you’re probably used to. If you want to live in a place like D.C. or Bowie then move there, but don't come here and try to turn Kent Island into what it never was and should never be. If you don’t see anything wrong then maybe you’re the one that should be on medication, but I’m doing just fine, thank you.
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Post by Jerry on Feb 20, 2006 10:23:58 GMT -4
I have actually been on the Eastern Shore for about 15 years now. By your standards, the light bulb, the TV, and Penicillin would never have been invented/discovered. I agree that you need responsible smart growth...not another 100+ codo complex. Lets fix the sh*t boxes first and then get the ignorant people out...that's you native.
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Post by Jen on Feb 20, 2006 12:32:26 GMT -4
Native, How do expect those of us who aren't "natives" to the Island not to be offended by your statements in your first post? As someone who moved here 5 years ago I am offended. Do I have money? Yes. Am I a rich whining person? No. Also, who made you the authority on what Kent Island should be? I really don't want to argue, but it make me sad that I am looked down upon as a non native and that you think we are "invading" the Island and ruining it. Maybe I am taking your comments the wrong way, but it seems like I'm not the only one who is offended. Change is good and diversity in a community does not mean that there are going to be homicides. You are stereotyping and that's sad. Paul hit the nail right on the head - you are close minded.
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Post by native on Feb 20, 2006 23:36:02 GMT -4
OK Jerry, I have lived on this Island my whole life which is longer that 15 years so don't compete with me on years resided here, for that is immature and stupid. Secondly I hope you are not trying to compare famous inventors and explorers to money hungry contractors. Because if history serves me correctly Thomas Edison sat in the privacy of his own house/lab and invented the light bulb which obviously never popped up over your head during your dim response. He did not go out and invade other people’s lives and space and attempt to build huge useless buildings on the exquisite nature that existed so that self indulgent people like you could move in and corrupt the area even further. And T.V., which also has nothing to do with what I am talking about, is obviously something that you need less of. Please pick your ass a** up off the sofa if you can drag yourself away from Jerry Springer and all of the stupid reality shows and take a walk outside so you can get a real picture of reality. And penicillin, you have got to be joking. First of all most discoveries like penicillin are found in nature by exploring nature not by building s**t on top of nature you moron. To add to that if you didn’t know already, Penicillin was an accidental fungal discovery not a purposeful ruining of a place where many other amazing historical and scenic things exist. And Jen, my first statement was directed to be offending to people like you because I don’t like you. And to explain to you what a forum is; it is a place where anyone can log onto and state their opinions about what they believe, or just say what they want to say. I am my own authority and this Island is where I grew up so I am going to fight for it. I’m sorry if this makes you sad. But what makes me sad is watching what is happening to this fine Island like having people like you move in not knowing or caring about the history and picturesque uniqueness of the Island that makes this place what it is and what it is known for. Then, on top of that you try and make it what you want it to be and what you think is right. People don’t live here because they want to live in a city, suburb, or the like; they live here to get away from that. If that’s what you are looking for, then I’m sure there are plenty of places left in Glen Burnie to buy.
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Post by z on Feb 21, 2006 9:31:04 GMT -4
people-people-it's getting a little angry in here!-native obviously has lived here a long time and is rightfully upset about his home-i mean you talk to the old-timers here and this place was truly a place where you were happy to live-a little gem across the bridge-i mean we have long been the "forgotten county"and from what i hear thats' ok with most of the "natives".sure times change-progress is inevitable-but...this area has long been able until now-to somehow hold on to that old-time charm so i'm sure it's upsetting to see it coming in droves now-plus the attitude of transplants is always one of "oh well-it's progress-we so need that starbucks!"-we don't never did-you needed that stuff, you went across the bridge-or to easton that was just the known fact-i'm sure there were many times locals wished there were something closer but i'm also sure that thought left as quickly as it came- you DON"T move here if you're looking for sidewalks and streetlights and targets or chevy's- you move here because you can get a beautiful house where you can watch sunsets that rival Hawaii's -watch the geese from your back deck-know the names of your neighbors and actually care about them-and know BEFORE you move here that at one time we had all we needed.again i know more people more things-i'm not A MORON-however i think it would be nice if the people that were moving here didn't act like the've lived here their whole lives-have a little respect or at least consider the feelings and passion the locals have for their little island-don't shove your progress down their throats-it's coming -hell it's here -just do people like native a favor-drink your starbucks-don't throw it in his face-
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Post by jerry on Feb 21, 2006 10:18:36 GMT -4
Native- Its real simple. If you don't like new business, don't give them your money. Don't turn into one of those Wal-Mart people that says they hate and don't want Wal-Mart and end up shopping there. I hate the big chains too. So make sure you don't use the new AAMC when it opens next year. If you get sick, make sure you you pass them by and drive to Easton or Annapolis. I think we are splitting hairs for whose been here longer. Again, I don't believe in over development but I hope we get some variety on the island. When I refer to this new business, I'm not talking about new developments but change over some of the existing ones. How many more auto places, gas stations, and banks do we really need? I think we have about 6 gas stations on the island. They are the worst for the environment. I too love to watch the geese and the sunsets, as long as I don't have to hear souped up sh*t boxes people call cars driving by. Lets get a noise ordinance over here to shut these people up! Native- I hope your car isn't one of those...if so, your just part of the problem you complain about.
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Post by Lee on Feb 21, 2006 10:28:25 GMT -4
Native- Do you live in a trailer and watch (I mean appeared) on Jerry Springer? Your the 1st mean person (besides some transplants) I've heard from on the eastern shore. Your going to be one of those miserable old persons. Chill out and smoke something. The eastern shore doesn't need you anymore. Time to move on. I heard they are selling some good trailers in alabama. I'll send you some links if your interested.
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Post by Jen on Feb 21, 2006 11:39:11 GMT -4
Native, I understand that a forum is a place where you can express your opinions. I just have a problem with those opinions being hateful ones that use foul language and name calling. How can you say you hate me when you don't even know who I am or what I'm about? You are assuming things about me. You think I don't belong here because I wasn't born here and that don't care about the Island? You're wrong. My family has a lot of history here on the Island. I've heard you mention Nick Hoxter in some of your other posts - I am a relative of Nick Hoxter. My grandmother was Lucille Hoxter and my uncle was Medford Hoxter. My Aunt's (through marriage) sister was married to the owner of Kent Manor Inn and lived there before it became a Bed & Breakfast. You probably went to school with a lot of my cousins. My family has been here a long time. So how can you say I don't care about the history of the Island? I loved my grandmother and this Island was important to her and is very important to me. Have I been on here saying I want tons of condos to go up and take over the land? No. Have I said that I want the sewer to go down Rte. 8 so that more developments can be built? No. I never said I wanted this to be a city or to be like Glen Burnie (BTW - I would never, ever move to a place like Glen Burnie). I believe the only thing that I have said on this forum along those lines is that I would like to see a place where I can go and have some drinks without inhaling a lot of smoke. Is that such a bad statement? Please stop putting everyone who wasn't born here into one category. You are missing out on knowing a lot of good people. This is the last post I'm going to make on the subject. It has gotten out of hand and I'd like to go back to enjoying reading these forums rather that getting upset after reading them.
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Post by native on Feb 21, 2006 22:28:17 GMT -4
Jerry, one person boycotting anything is useless and a waste of time. Besides Wal-Mart is not here anyway so why are you talking about it, and if you read a little harder in my recent posts I stated that some things would be good to have here like the MEDICAL CENTER. And what the hell does the kind of car you drive or bike you ride have to with anything we are talking about. Seriously man if you want to moan about loud cars like some cranky old fart then start another thread called, “What’s louder; cars and motorcycles or the construction of my condo and my whining”. Cars are a hobby to a lot of people and a part of everyday life wherever you live so get over your perfect self just because you don’t know what a classic, antique, import, or euro is. How about you send me your e-mail and I’ll invite you and David to the next “Kent Island Cruisers” get together. Lee, please if you are going to insult me then at least pretend you are some what intelligent and uses proper grammar; the word “on” goes inside of the parenthesis genius. And in the sentences, “Your going to be one of those miserable old persons” and “Your the 1st mean person (besides some transplants) I've heard from on the eastern shore” and last but not least, “I'll send you some links if your interested”, “your” is supposed to be “you’re” as in “you are”. Oh and sure I’ll look at those links of (note: capital letter “A” in Alabama since it is a state) Alabama if you would like me to; I love to travel. But I think I’ll pass on the whole “smoke something” idea since I can see what it has done to your brain cells. Jen, I never used the word hate with you and the problem I had with you was your statement saying, “Hopefully it will be a nice place that we can go and have a good time without the smoke and the "wrong crowds" that some of the other bars in the area seem to attract!” and your agreeing with David’s statement saying, “I think that by making the place a non smoking establishment, it will keep out the bad crowd from the nasty dive down the road.” You both moved here knowing this was not a smoke-free area so stop acting all high and mighty with your aggressive comments being thrown into the faces of your so called “bad/wrong crowd”. That’s great that you have family here but judging by your past comments it is easy to tell that you are not, which I never said I didn’t like about every single person. I just don’t like certain people that move here and push their western shore ways on everyone and everything which there seem to be an awful lot of.
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Post by bchevy on Feb 22, 2006 20:00:50 GMT -4
Native- Do you live in a trailer and watch (I mean appeared) on Jerry Springer? Your the 1st mean person (besides some transplants) I've heard from on the eastern shore. Your going to be one of those miserable old persons. Chill out and smoke something. The eastern shore doesn't need you anymore. Time to move on. I heard they are selling some good trailers in alabama. I'll send you some links if your interested. And there you have it, there's our future in a nutshell..... THIS is the type that makes all the native islanders upset, NATIVE is probably the 1ST native that Lee has heard from at all. None would talk to him on person.
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Post by Rick on Feb 22, 2006 22:35:16 GMT -4
I would welcome a non-smoking hang out here, and by that I don't mean that I would want to ban smoking everywhere. I would just like a new place that was non-smoking. I was in New York last year for a weekend and I really liked not smelling like smoke and waking up with a headache. Again, it's wrong to take away something that was in place for a few people like me, but I would be a customer to a non-smoking place over any of the current watering holes around here. Unfortunately I'm in the minority on this otherwise somebody would have opened a place like this by now.
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Post by Bernadette on Mar 6, 2006 1:04:34 GMT -4
;)Dear Native,
I have been here over 30 years, raised 3 kids here and realize time marches on....things can never stay exactly the same. It is called-compromising. We all have a right to live here, and we all have to find ways to get along. We are probably more alike than we are different. We appreciate your sincere loyalty, but growth is going to come whether we like it or not. So let's try to plan in a fair and responsible way. I am for having a new comprehensive plan that lasts at least 10 years. The six year plan is way to short for any planning. We need to be reasonable and just try to look at things differently. We are no different than most counties in this country--growth is the number one problem in this country!! But we can't explode over this--life is way to precious to be negative. You can never solve a problem by shaming people or things. God be with you.
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Post by native on Mar 7, 2006 23:22:25 GMT -4
My problem isn't growing; it’s growing in the wrong direction that angers me. Before anyone even thinks about building new businesses and houses, try thinking about what already exists that is abandoned. Why would you want to build more if what exists is perfect for the job?
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Post by nonnative on Mar 9, 2006 0:27:09 GMT -4
Great, first there was the Soup Nazi on Seinfeld, now there's the Bridge Nazi (AKA native). I can see it now, traffic at the Bay Bridge jam-packed back to Rt. 3 as the toll collectors administer the Kent Island Quiz to see if the occupants are worthy to travel to the Island.
Bridge Nazi, "Hi, that'll be $2.50 and do you know when John Smith settled on KI?"
Spoiled rotten luxury SUV driver, "Uh, no."
Bridge Nazi, "NO BRIDGE FOR YOU"
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Post by Cramer on Mar 9, 2006 2:40:40 GMT -4
BEST POST EVER!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by bchevy on Mar 13, 2006 18:44:20 GMT -4
My problem isn't growing; it’s growing in the wrong direction that angers me. Before anyone even thinks about building new businesses and houses, try thinking about what already exists that is abandoned. Why would you want to build more if what exists is perfect for the job? Where's the THUMBS UP Smily? this would make sense, so of course it wont happen, Build, Build, Build, then think what to do with it.... Even the county is in it, building more at the industrial park, why is it the the county is in the rental business? aren't they?
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Post by ravensjeff on Mar 13, 2006 19:32:38 GMT -4
Could someone please explain to me where all these vacated empty homes are? I need to find them.
And other than a few remaining empty spots in the run-down old outlets, where is all the empty office space?
I'm not trying to be facetious, I seriously would like to know.
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Post by Steven on Mar 14, 2006 9:46:51 GMT -4
There are empty stores in the shopping center by Acme and in the current Safeway shopping center. Once Safeway moves, there will be a huge empty store there too. There are a few empty stores in that new sttrip-mall behind Safeway too. I think that there are a few empty places in Stevensville town too that used to be antique stores. You can't forget about that ancient gas station/eyesore on the corner of Dominion & Main either.... I'm not sure about any empty houses though.
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Post by ravensjeff on Mar 14, 2006 13:00:37 GMT -4
There are empty stores in the shopping center by Acme and in the current Safeway shopping center. Once Safeway moves, there will be a huge empty store there too. There are a few empty stores in that new sttrip-mall behind Safeway too. I think that there are a few empty places in Stevensville town too that used to be antique stores. You can't forget about that ancient gas station/eyesore on the corner of Dominion & Main either.... I'm not sure about any empty houses though. There is only one space for lease in the Acme shopping center and one in the Safeway shopping center. I have heard a number of rumors about the old Safeway location once it moves...it is unclear to me if this will be available space or not. There are no empty stores in the new strip mall behind Safeway. I went through hsitoric stevensville this morning but couldn't find any empty store fronts. There was perhaps a vacant building next to No Place but I couldn't tell for sure. The eyesore on the corner of Dominion and Main is finally for sale (if you have $1.075 million dollars that is).
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Post by joe on Apr 30, 2006 14:56:20 GMT -4
I hear via the grapevine, that if Hovnanian pulls out of the Kent Island project, that there is a mobil home company interested in acquiring the land for low income housing. What a shame! Hovnanian builds such beautiful developments. If you don't believe me check there developments in New Jersey. Beautiful club houses, pounds with fountains and manicured properties. But then, mobil homes can always be changed over to chicken coups for you people who want to keep it as rural as possible. Low income housing isn't so bad. There good for young people with kids. The land will never return to the farm it was! Let's face it!
Help me out, I am a young parent with six kids! I need a place to live!!!
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Post by Thomas on May 1, 2006 13:23:09 GMT -4
Why does the land have to be developed at all? Why can't it just remain as it is? Call me dumb, but can't the county just buy the land back from K. Hov and designate it as protected?
Again, why does every square inch of KI need to be developed? QAC is a big place! Can't they spread out? Why can't they put Four Seasons between Queenstown and Centreville?
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Post by bchevy on May 1, 2006 21:46:30 GMT -4
I hear via the grapevine, that if Hovnanian pulls out of the Kent Island project, that there is a mobil home company interested in acquiring the land for low income housing. What a shame! Hovnanian builds such beautiful developments. If you don't believe me check there developments in New Jersey. Beautiful club houses, pounds with fountains and manicured properties. But then, mobil homes can always be changed over to chicken coups for you people who want to keep it as rural as possible. Low income housing isn't so bad. There good for young people with kids. The land will never return to the farm it was! Let's face it! Help me out, I am a young parent with six kids! I need a place to live!!! more crap go to New Jersey if you like it so much, Pounds and Fountains too....
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Post by Christine on May 5, 2006 16:58:11 GMT -4
Dear Joe,
You hit the nail on the head. People don't understand if they don't like what is being proposed or developed for goodness sake BUY THE LAND YOURSELF, then you can do with it whatever you like. I think four seasons is going to be a diamond in the rough in years to come and people that complain will be the first to be residents there. It happened with the KMart and Food Lion and all the other big chains in the last 10-15 years here. People who complained are all now employees - what gives. Quit being so people phobia
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