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Post by bchevy on Nov 21, 2011 20:02:13 GMT -4
I just received this email for the ICC.... Also- have you all heard the ad campaign on the radio for the ICC? GEESH
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Post by falgar25 on Nov 21, 2011 20:17:37 GMT -4
I just received this email for the ICC.... Also- have you all heard the ad campaign on the radio for the ICC? GEESH Yep, heard them and shake my head every time.
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Post by Tommy on Nov 21, 2011 21:13:08 GMT -4
So, whats the complaint? The ICC opens full length tomorrow and is an electronic toll road. From the advertising, I percieve that the one way rate is $4.00 for EZ Pass users with 150% for tag reader fee non-users. I don't commute that way so I really don't care, but, if the good citizens of Pee-Gee and MoCo want to pay $160 per month to use it, let them. Maybe MD Transportation Authority can drain thier pockets instead of ours and at least stabilize our toll rate for a few years. The highway is finished and over. Let them pay for it. I'm not contributing.
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Post by grova on Nov 21, 2011 21:23:05 GMT -4
Infrastructure and improvements...how do they work?
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Post by bchevy on Nov 21, 2011 21:27:19 GMT -4
So, whats the complaint? The ICC opens full length tomorrow and is an electronic toll road. From the advertising, I percieve that the one way rate is $4.00 for EZ Pass users with 150% for tag reader fee non-users. I don't commute that way so I really don't care, but, if the good citizens of Pee-Gee and MoCo want to pay $160 mer month to use it, let them. Maybe MD Transportation Authority can drain thier pockets instead of ours and at least stabilize our toll rate for a few years. The highway is finished and obver. Let them pay for it. I'm not contributing. I don't think I've ever heard of an advertisement for a toll road, I guess the advertising budget would be a big complaint in my book. They cry of needing toll hikes and spend it on this... Someone got paid to do the email, they have my address for the ezpass account. I'm not signed up for emails from them, there's 2 more complaints.... and yes, you are contributing, you and I both. Extra toll profits have been funneled off the Bay Bridge for decades now. We do contribute, way more than our share. It was even mentioned early on in the toll hike propaganda that it was needed to help the ICC.
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Post by bchevy on Nov 21, 2011 21:28:15 GMT -4
Infrastructure and improvements...how do they work? In Md. they work by sucking the cash cow dry, and then sucking it some more.
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Post by Tommy on Nov 21, 2011 21:35:33 GMT -4
Most work very well and are direly needed. I'm not complaining, I am in full support of government spending for infrastrucure improvemengt, the Feds have always paid 80%, ARRA pays 100%. Just glad that the motorists that use the ICC pay their fair share and our bridge, our "Life Line" toll revenues are not used to subsidize their commuter highway.
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Post by Tommy on Nov 21, 2011 21:39:18 GMT -4
BC, gotta agree with you, why the big $$ Ad Campaign? Commutors that use it / wanted it know it is open. Yes, waste of our $$$
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Post by glk21c on Nov 22, 2011 7:02:46 GMT -4
VA was advertising the "Dulles Toll Road" and "Greenway" when they opened as well.
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Post by dmki on Nov 22, 2011 9:03:51 GMT -4
People will get in line and sit in traffic just to drive the full length of the ICC just to seeit, see the view , or for whatever random reason. The y did the same thing when the Bay Bridge opened-east and west.
I suggest you hit the Unsubscribe selection of that email, and thanks for advertising an advertisement.
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Post by Frank on Nov 22, 2011 9:08:14 GMT -4
Most work very well and are direly needed. I'm not complaining, I am in full support of government spending for infrastrucure improvemengt, the Feds have always paid 80%, ARRA pays 100%. Just glad that the motorists that use the ICC pay their fair share and our bridge, our "Life Line" toll revenues are not used to subsidize their commuter highway. Unfortunately, that is exactly what is happening! The increase that you and I are paying now at the Bay Bridge is to help with the expense of the ICC. It doesn't matter that the state already robs the bridge toll collection funds of approximately $25 million a year. It doesn't matter that we don't use the ICC. They want more, and unlike the ICC, we have no reasonable alternative route other than the bridge. If the toll is too high on the ICC, they simply take I-95 to the beltway. Nobody I know would take I-95 to 40 and back down 301. They've got us where they want us. Thanks again Owe'Malley.
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Post by dmki on Nov 22, 2011 9:40:32 GMT -4
The reasons the tolls are raised is an attemp to pay for the cost of employing the government employees saleries, oversight and headswelling disease. These roads and bridges are not repaired, replace or maintained properly and its obviuos poor government management is the reason.
Lets say it cost $500,000,000 to operate the bay bridge and perform the real required maintenance, repairs and replacement annually. The saliries for the government employees to oversee this is $900,000,000. The revenue the bridge tolls generates covers $950,000,000.
Maybe the government needs to get smaller. This is just a $ example, the $ amount is not a fact but the general premise is. The same goes with the United States and its budget.
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Post by Scooby on Nov 22, 2011 9:59:04 GMT -4
I heard these ads for the ICC yesterday on the radio and just hit the roof - your bridge toll increases at work. Now, if you have to advertise a road, maybe it wasn't needed as bad as you claimed....Just sayin....
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Post by cranky64 on Nov 22, 2011 10:15:02 GMT -4
Has anyone ever looked at the layers of Bureaucracy in the MD Dept of Transportation? It is agency after agency of it. MAA MDTA MPA MTA MVA SHA
Each with its own $200k a year administrator.
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Post by deputy on Nov 22, 2011 14:06:04 GMT -4
Most work very well and are direly needed. I'm not complaining, I am in full support of government spending for infrastrucure improvemengt, the Feds have always paid 80%, ARRA pays 100%. Just glad that the motorists that use the ICC pay their fair share and our bridge, our "Life Line" toll revenues are not used to subsidize their commuter highway. I'd say maybe most work well, except for the state of Md. MDTA is way too big, buying way too many toys, and not spending on maintenance. You need to be enlightened, Bay Bridge tolls do subsidize, and have been subsidizing other toll facilities in Maryland for decades.....
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Post by deputy on Nov 22, 2011 14:08:37 GMT -4
The reasons the tolls are raised is an attemp to pay for the cost of employing the government employees saleries, oversight and headswelling disease. These roads and bridges are not repaired, replace or maintained properly and its obviuos poor government management is the reason. Lets say it cost $500,000,000 to operate the bay bridge and perform the real required maintenance, repairs and replacement annually. The saliries for the government employees to oversee this is $900,000,000. The revenue the bridge tolls generates covers $950,000,000. Maybe the government needs to get smaller. This is just a $ example, the $ amount is not a fact but the general premise is. The same goes with the United States and its budget. One of the main excuses constantly given for raising tolls: "They haven't been raised since the 70's" The faulty maintenace history should be at the cost of numerous MDTA managers jobs. Heads should roll for the constant lackluster performance of these boobs. I totally agree with you that government is too big, too fat, and needs cut....
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