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Post by nightpurse99 on Mar 22, 2012 4:54:36 GMT -4
2-27-12 off of Bloody Point
3-15 in the Rhode River
3-12 in the Miles River
Sounds like a lot of nets in different locations to me. I think it's more then 1 or 2 bad apples in the bunch!
Maryland The Poaching State , season 2
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Post by deputy on Mar 22, 2012 7:01:25 GMT -4
Shocker...... NOT
A$$holes just don't learn
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Post by freefallin on Mar 22, 2012 9:42:13 GMT -4
yeah, I am appalled by that too. I would hope that at least a couple if not a few can be chalked up to gear breaking loose from their impoundments during bad weather. The worse part is that bad weather usually lasts for more than a day or two so if your gear breaks loose you have little chance of finding it due to the high seas and time that has passed.
The DNR like most government employees has nothing but time on their hands so they can "fish" for these nets all day long and still get paid. On top of that they have their boats paid for, have them professionally maintained, don't have to worry about paying for the fuel, get health insurance, retirement, paid vacation, paid sick time, State supplied vehicles, get paid to go to trainings, uniforms, go where they want to on the water, have a partner with them that the State supplies that you don't have to split any costs with, etc., etc, etc. The watermen have to chalk up the major loss and work twice as hard to make up for the gear and time they lost plus try to get ahead - which is almost impossible due to the rising fuel costs, DNR pressure to raise their registrations and license fees, and with none of the perks above. Yet the DNR claims they are going bankrupt and the taxpayers are responsible for funding them even more. Ask me who I think the bad guys are out there.....
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Post by optout on Mar 22, 2012 10:05:05 GMT -4
I hear you freefallin.
1. The fish would be wiped out if it was a free for all and no regulations, the (poachers) would reap all the benefits until the fish are gone, then what.
2. The government is slowly wiping out the working class with higher taxes, healthcare expense, cost of vehicles and fuel. Not to mention the watermen who follow the rules for gill nets and their income.
I see it as both the poachers and the government as the bad guy but the government will always win out as the bad guy because they look out for themselves. They have the peoples check book in their pocket and spare no expense.
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Post by optout on Mar 22, 2012 10:24:12 GMT -4
I bet the investigators searching for the poachers don't have a clue what they are doing.
1. How do the poachers place the nets? 2. How do the nets get pulled up? 3. How do they collect the fish and take them to markets that don't suspect the fish have been poached? 4. How do the poachers even access the areas where the nets are found. 5. Have they looked at big refrigerated/freezer type trucks and or people who have access to them? 6. Have they looked at area watermen who regularly drive south in their big refrigerated/freezer type trucks to buy or sell? 7. Have they looked at areas where boats can unload fish caught with these nets?
Just some simple question a dumb redneck has.
I cant imagine they pull up to Matapeake pier and unload poached fish but I'm sure that's the types of places the investigators look.
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Post by deputy on Mar 22, 2012 14:45:43 GMT -4
1. How do the poachers place the nets? By boat 2. How do the nets get pulled up? By boat 3. How do they collect the fish and take them to markets that don't suspect the fish have been poached? Newsflash- the markets/buyers are in on it.... this aint no small operation. 4. How do the poachers even access the areas where the nets are found. By Boat 5. Have they looked at big refrigerated/freezer type trucks and or people who have access to them? Hope so... 6. Have they looked at area watermen who regularly drive south in their big refrigerated/freezer type trucks to buy or sell? I'll bet they are selling their catch a lot closer than that.... 7. Have they looked at areas where boats can unload fish caught with these nets? That's a mighty big number of places..
Hopefully some better answers from a not so dumb redneck?
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Post by Mike on Mar 22, 2012 16:47:51 GMT -4
Was a second thread needed?
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Post by constructr on Mar 22, 2012 16:50:06 GMT -4
Any of you ever been down near Hill Point??
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Post by nightpurse99 on Mar 22, 2012 19:11:19 GMT -4
Was a second thread needed? Yes, This is a topic directly dealing with the Poaching issue. Both side of the " Gill Net " issue come together here for a common good of the bay. Regardless of how you fish ( hook and line, Net -gill or Pound ) stealing is stealing. I may not like the gill nets BUT they ARE legal and therefore I wont mess with them. Now the Poachers are a different story, and that is the topic of this thread
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Post by nightpurse99 on Mar 22, 2012 19:12:29 GMT -4
Any of you ever been down near Hill Point?? Whats the interest in Hill Point?
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Post by bchevy on Mar 22, 2012 20:41:52 GMT -4
Any of you ever been down near Hill Point?? Whats the interest in Hill Point? For real, Spill The Beans.....
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Post by constructr on Mar 24, 2012 6:51:22 GMT -4
Have you ever been there?
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Post by bchevy on Jun 8, 2012 21:49:10 GMT -4
I found this Bay Times in a garage I cleaned out, funny how it's sort of on topic...... it's like 1973.... Attachments:
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Post by bluefish on Jun 14, 2012 10:20:11 GMT -4
if you don't know your past you won't know your future!
over and over again
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Post by nightpurse99 on Sept 21, 2012 19:29:46 GMT -4
www.ccamd.org/?p=1381Off Of Bloody Point I posted this yesterday, Don't know why it was deleated? Mistake??
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Post by Mike on Sept 21, 2012 21:22:42 GMT -4
Not deleted, try merged... with your other gill net threads.
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Post by bchevy on Sept 21, 2012 21:50:43 GMT -4
bump
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Post by constructr on Sept 23, 2012 11:47:02 GMT -4
That net was probably in the water for 2 years, at least. The pictures I saw the other day show an algae encrusted mass and it had obviously been laying on the bottom for a long time and not deployed in a fish catching mode.
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Post by bluefish on Sept 23, 2012 21:27:50 GMT -4
May Be a few months at Most. Years NOT
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Post by constructr on Sept 23, 2012 21:38:37 GMT -4
May Be a few months at Most. Years NOT Wrong.
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