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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2013 9:35:44 GMT -4
To put it simply.....the county commissioners are proposing another property tax increase, due to declining property assessments to maintain the same amount of revenue. There should have been outrage over even thinking about it, let alone proposing it.
The public hearing is May 21st....oh yeah, I know how those go, they'll reduce the amount some because of public comments, but there will still be an increase.
Your property taxes are going up on July 1, 2013.
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Post by cranky64 on May 5, 2013 19:04:26 GMT -4
Mine will be going down. I won my appeal to the tune of some 40k less in appraised value.
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Post by falgar25 on May 5, 2013 19:16:01 GMT -4
Some will go up and some will go down; mine will likely go up but maybe not to what it was before my last appraisal. If the increase is to adjust the constant yield tax rate then I am mostly for it. I wish spending would decrease but if it doesn't then at least it makes sense to keep income levels the same.
Now, if they intend to raise the rates to increase the amount that gets collected, that I would have a problem with.
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Post by tomc on May 5, 2013 21:44:19 GMT -4
Let's restore the education cuts. Increase the spending to make our county one of the best in the State. One place where the money needs to be spent!
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Post by bob66 on May 6, 2013 8:02:55 GMT -4
The issue that I will have is that they can raise the rate to get back to what they were collecting before property values tanked, but if and when the property values go back up they will not reduce the rate. They will just enjoy the new windfall. And likely waste it.
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Post by Frank on May 6, 2013 8:04:35 GMT -4
The issue that I will have is that they can raise the rate to get back to what they were collecting before property values tanked, but if and when the property values go back up they will not reduce the rate. They will just enjoy the new windfall. And likely waste it. Exactly how it works!
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Post by emsguru on May 6, 2013 8:43:05 GMT -4
The issue that I will have is that they can raise the rate to get back to what they were collecting before property values tanked, but if and when the property values go back up they will not reduce the rate. They will just enjoy the new windfall. And likely waste it. Actually I do not believe that is true. I'm looking for what I found a year or two ago but it showed that when property values increased in the mid 00's the per 100 rate dropped. In 11 and 12 they began increasing the rates again. If I find it I will post it.
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Post by lainey on May 7, 2013 16:38:29 GMT -4
Way back in the early 90s our property taxes were as high as 97 cents per 100.00 of assessed value. But lets not mistake that fact stating as my support of this decision to raise property taxes. I would like my income tax rate dropped back down to 2.85 % where it used to be before this gang of five yanked it up to 3.2% - the highest rate allowed by law in Maryland. This group of commissioners will waste it, most certainly. They need a new courthouse and new public works offices North County. They want to fund a YMCA, the list goes on and on......
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Post by Frank on May 7, 2013 18:44:17 GMT -4
When the economy is down, and we are all tightening our belts, why can't our elected officials? When property values are down, and you know tax income will also be down - plan for it! Quit spending so much! It's not rocket science. This includes our President right down to out county officials. This is the time our government should help the citizens make it through tough times, not further hinder our struggle. They live in a different world.
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Post by tomc on May 8, 2013 6:35:12 GMT -4
This group of commissioners will waste it, most certainly. They need a new courthouse and ... Because those courthouses built in 1797 should last at least 400 years... Building NOW is the right thing to do. Creates jobs and building costs are lower than during boom times. Makes sense all the way around!
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 9:19:09 GMT -4
Did everyone get the letter in the mail?
It's not just to maintain current levels for 2014...it's a 4.3% increase over the 2013 budget.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 10:11:07 GMT -4
Hey boys and girls, don't forget about this either...it takes effect on July 1, 2013. Bay Bridge EZ Pass Commuter goes to $2.10, EZ Pass 2 axle goes to $5.40, 2 axle cash goes to $6, and if you're towing a trailer...thank you sir, may I have another. My additional two cents rant...out of state vehicles should pay a higher rate. If you don't like it, drive around the long way or stay home. www.mdta.maryland.gov/Toll_Rates/Bay_Bridge_Rates.html
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Post by falgar25 on May 10, 2013 6:40:21 GMT -4
Did everyone get the letter in the mail? It's not just to maintain current levels for 2014...it's a 4.3% increase over the 2013 budget. The property tax rate increase does maintain the current property tax income. $64.2M last year and $64.0M this year (actually, a small decrease). The proposed budget is a 4.3% increase over the 2013 budget. As the letter states, the additional money come primarily from higher income tax revenues; the extra money does not come from property tax income.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2013 10:13:05 GMT -4
You are correct, but it's still an increase....where does it stop?
I can't get over that our property tax rate is higher then Montgomery county $.724 per $100, our county will be $.8687 per $100. Looking south of us, Talbot county is only $.491, and on top of that, their income tax rate is only 2.4%, we're at 3.2%.
We are not a resident tax friendly county.
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Post by emsguru on May 10, 2013 11:28:34 GMT -4
You are correct, but it's still an increase....where does it stop? I can't get over that our property tax rate is higher then Montgomery county $.724 per $100, our county will be $.8687 per $100. Looking south of us, Talbot county is only $.491, and on top of that, their income tax rate is only 2.4%, we're at 3.2%. We are not a resident tax friendly county. Well the same houses in Gibson's Grant would be 700 to 900 grand in Moco. Hell even townhomes in Gaithersburg like the ones in Elendale are 600 grand. Its not really an increase in tax rate. Maybe it is just expected that with the turning around of the economy people will be making more than last year.
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Post by falgar25 on May 10, 2013 19:59:56 GMT -4
..... Its not really an increase in tax rate. Maybe it is just expected that with the turning around of the economy people will be making more than last year. Property tax rate current: $0.8471/$100 Property tax rate proposed: $0.8687/$100 Property tax rate increase: $0.0216/$100 The local income tax rate is 3.2% which, I believe, is the maximum currently allowable. The County has graciously decided that since they have already maxed out the income tax rate they will not raise it any more. Nice of them.
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Post by lainey on May 14, 2013 14:40:41 GMT -4
Falgar25 and I dont normally agree on many issues, but he is dead on with this one. Our income tax rate is the HIGHEST ALLOWED BY MD LAW. We pay the same income taxes as Baltimore City, PG County, Montgomery County and Howard County. We pay the highest income tax local tax on the Eastern Shore. Now lets look at the benefits we get for that property tax rate......hospitals, nope.....universities, nope......curbside recycling, nope. Do we get streetlights or sidewalks, nope. Do we get mass transit, nope. All the counties that pay the highest rates have those things.....You gotta ask yourself, what are they doing with our money? I hear about all kinds of new building projects. We want a new courthouse, but now we dont want to build at the Sause House location. The primary reason to buy the Sause House for that extra million over appraised value was to build a courthouse in the town near all the other anciliary facilites. Now we want to build that outside the town of Centreville limits. Meanwhile we rent the Sause House to a nonprofit for an amazing $1.00 per year. I dont begrudge the nonprofit, just the financial sense behind the entire fiasco. We want to build a new public works facility up North county and put Dept of Emergency Services there too. Why do we need a new public works building housing DES? Beats me, I thought DES was doing well sharing the Sudlersville Volunteer Fire House for nothing, but lets put a new building. Lets also give the YMCA 4 million tax dollars to put private gyms business investment in this county at risk. We could spend a million or two repairing the college pool, which does not "compete" with local athletic facilities, but that doesnt make sense to this gang of 5 either. I did not vote for a single one of the Gang of 5.
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Post by lainey on May 14, 2013 14:42:34 GMT -4
Let's restore the education cuts. Increase the spending to make our county one of the best in the State. One place where the money needs to be spent! Before we restore anything we should have a full look at the entire budget for the Board of Education. Show me the money!
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Post by lainey on May 14, 2013 14:48:58 GMT -4
This group of commissioners will waste it, most certainly. They need a new courthouse and ... Because those courthouses built in 1797 should last at least 400 years... Building NOW is the right thing to do. Creates jobs and building costs are lower than during boom times. Makes sense all the way around! While that may be true, this gang of 5 specializes in finding ways to make it inefficient. The current scuttle is that we wont build a new courthouse at the Sause House location. This group wants it outside of Centreville Town Limits. So now the States Attorney can buy a car to go to court instead of walking across the street. The new courthouse cant share existing parking we already have built. Add that to the list of other items to relocate the court out of Centreville. And we still have the Sause House at 1.3 million on our county balance sheet. We rent that out for $1.00 per year. I dont blame the Gang of 5 for the Sause House purchase, but they act like we have extra money for more land purchases and all the anciliary services that will now have to be duplicated at another location.
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Post by deepsea on May 15, 2013 7:19:57 GMT -4
I believe the county is 11 million in the black.
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Post by double on May 15, 2013 13:23:47 GMT -4
When you have a strong no growth element this is what you get. Barriers to entry. High taxes, lawsuits that drain time and resources, unfriendly regulations to both commercial and residential building. Not to mention bad decision making under pressure from the anti element, by the county. ie land purchases/land hoarding and driving away business that we need.
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Post by Frank on May 15, 2013 13:33:43 GMT -4
Maryland drives away business, then expects to make up the difference from you and me! Go Owe'Malley!
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