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Post by georgej202 on Jan 1, 2014 19:53:48 GMT -4
liberals, how they turn the facts. Well my socialist friend here is the rest of the story: At the time this photo was possibly taken the Soviet Union had invaded Afghanistan and the US did supply them weapons and other materials to fight them. There was hopes at the time we would become allies, and bring the country out of the dark ages, but alas it didn't happen that way. Was he wrong? it appears so, but the effort was made unlike today this administration has succeeded in upsetting our allies with lies and spying on them. So, so much for you little leftest blog George
PS I could be wrong but you sound a lot like a person that was here some time ago spouting the same crap.
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Post by frankf on Jan 1, 2014 22:11:50 GMT -4
George, your buddy Ronnie Ray-gun seemed to like to cozy up to Muslims in Iran too. Shall we go into the myriad of investigations and CONVICTIONS that plagued your hero's administration? Feel free to check out any of these further. Perhaps add the BILLIONS spent on the failed Star Wars Defense System.... etc... Sorry my conservative friend, it's people like YOU who hate America and welcome its destruction.
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"By the end of his term, 138 Reagan administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations. In terms of number of officials involved, the record of his administration was the worst ever."
1. Lyn Nofziger--White House Press Secretary - Convicted on charges of illegal lobbying of White House in Wedtech scandal. The lobbying would not have been illegal had he not been White House Press Secretary.
2. Michael Deaver, Reagan's Chief of Staff, received three years' probation and was fined one hundred thousand dollars after being convicted for lying to a congressional subcommittee and a federal grand jury about his lobbying activities after leaving the White House. Same as with Lyn Nofziger.
3. James Watt, Reagan's Secretary of the Interior was indicted on 41 felony counts for using connections at the Department of Housing and Urban Development to help his private clients seek federal funds for housing projects in Maryland, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands. Watt conceded that he had received $500,000 from clients who were granted very favorable housing contracts after he had intervened on their behalf. Watt was eventually sentenced to five years in prison and 500 hours of community service.
4. John Poindexter, Reagan's national security advisor, guilty of five criminal counts involving conspiracy to mislead Congress, obstructing congressional inquiries, lying to lawmakers, used "high national security" to mask deceit and wrong-doing...
5. Richard Secord pleaded guilty to a felony charge of lying to Congress over Iran-Contra. Appointed by William Casey to assist Oliver North.
6. Elliott Abrams was appointed by President Reagan in 1985 to head the State Department's Latin American Bureau. He was closely linked with ex-White House aide Lt. Col. Oliver North's covert movement to aid the Contras. Working for North, Abrams coordinated inter-agency support for the contras and helped solicit illegal funding from foreign powers as well as domestic contributors. Abrams agreed to cooperate with Iran-Contra investigators and pled guilty to two charges reduced to misdemeanors. He was sentenced in 1991 to two years probation and 100 hours of community service but was pardoned by President George Bush...
7. Robert C. McFarlane, Reagan's National Security Advisor, pled guilty to four misdemeanors and was sentenced to two years probation and 200 hours of community service. He was also fined $20,000. He received a blanket pardon from President George Bush...
8. Alan D. Fiers was the Chief of the Central Intelligence Agency's Central American Task Force. Fiers pled guilty in 1991 to two counts of withholding information from congress about Oliver North's activities and the diversion of Iran arms sale money to aid the Contras. He was sentenced to one year of probation and 100 hours of community service. Alan Fiers received a blanket pardon for his crimes from President Bush...
Thomas G. Clines: convicted of four counts of tax-related offenses for failing to report income from the operations; Carl R. Channel - Office of Public Diplomacy , partner in International Business- first person convicted in the Iran/Contra scandal, pleaded guilty of one count of defrauding the United States Richard R. Miller - Partner with Oliver North in IBC, a Office of Public Diplomacy front group, convicted of conspiracy to defraud the United States. Frank Gomez 13.. Donald Fortier Clair George was Chief of the CIA's Division of Covert Operations under President Reagan. George was convicted of lying to two congressional committees in 1986. George faced a maximum five year federal prison sentence and a $20,000 fine for each of the two convictions. Jurors cleared George of five other charges including two counts of lying to a federal grand jury. Clair George received a blanket pardon for his crimes from President George Bush... Rita Lavelle was indicted, tried and convicted of lying to Congress and served three months of a six-month prison sentence. Philip Winn - Assistant HUD Secretary. Pleaded guilty to one count of scheming to give illegal gratuities. Thomas Demery - Assistand HUD Secretary - pleaded guilty to steering HUD subsidies to politically connected donors. Deborah Gore Dean - executive assistant to Samuel Pierce - indicted on thirteen counts, three counts of conspiracy, one count of accepting an illegal gratuity, four counts of perjury, and five counts of concealing articles. She was convicted on twelve accounts. She appealed and prevailed on several accounts but the convictions for conspiracy remained. Catalina Villaponda - Former US Treasurer Joseph A. Strauss - Accepting kickbacks from developers Oliver North - He was indicted on sixteen felony counts and on May 4, 1989, he was convicted of three: accepting an illegal gratuity, aiding and abetting in the obstruction of a congressional inquiry, and destruction of documents (by his secretary, Fawn Hall, on his instructions). He was sentenced by U.S. District Judge Gerhard A. Gesell on July 5, 1989, to a three-year suspended prison term, two years probation, $150,000 in fines, and 1,200 hours community service. His conviction was later overturned.
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Post by deepsea on Jan 2, 2014 5:58:14 GMT -4
George, your buddy Ronnie Ray-gun seemed to like to cozy up to Muslims in Iran too. Shall we go into the myriad of investigations and CONVICTIONS that plagued your hero's administration? Feel free to check out any of these further. Perhaps add the BILLIONS spent on the failed Star Wars Defense System.... etc... Sorry my conservative friend, it's people like YOU who hate America and welcome its destruction. The future is now: Navy to deploy lasers on ships in 2014 The Pentagon has plans to deploy its first ever ship-mounted laser next year, a disruptive, cutting-edge weapon capable of obliterating small boats and unmanned aerial vehicles with a blast of infrared energy. Navy officials announced Monday that in early 2014, a solid-state laser prototype will be mounted to the fantail of the USS Ponce and sent to the 5th fleet region in the Middle East for real-world experience. www.bing.com/videos/search?q=navy+test+lasers+youtube&FORM=VIRE3#view=detail&mid=BDF00FBBA3E17D62431CBDF00FBBA3E17D62431CRonnie Ray-Gun also said "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant its just that they know so much that isn't so". HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHA.
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Post by barnaclebill on Jan 2, 2014 8:58:37 GMT -4
The future is now: Navy to deploy lasers on ships in 2014 The Pentagon has plans to deploy its first ever ship-mounted laser next year, a disruptive, cutting-edge weapon capable of obliterating small boats and unmanned aerial vehicles with a blast of infrared energy. That's great, but the Royal Navy deployed shipboard laser weapons during the Falklands War in 1982. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23518592
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Post by Frank on Jan 2, 2014 9:38:29 GMT -4
Gee frankf, it seems you like to hand pick pieces of history to try to make your case. If you take off your rose colored glasses, and try to be a little impartial, you would see thing a little different. What about the outreach your messiah Obama has made to the Muslim Brotherhood? I guess that’s OK with you? Don’t you find it ironic this administration can supply guns to drug cartels that kill American border guards and no one held accountable and no one goes to jail? What about supplying arms to al Qaeda? Again, no one goes to jail? It seems there was accountability during the Reagan administration. Nobody hid behind executive privilege.
If you want to hand pick history, why not start with the Democratic parties’ opposition to amendment 19 giving women rights? It was the Republican Party that passed the amendment. Why does the Democratic party hate women frankf?
Did you know the Klu Klux Klan act that was supported by the Republicans and fought by the Democrats? Or the anti-lynching legislation that was passed in 1918 without Democratic support? You do know your party fought for slavery in this country. They loved slavery! More recently, Democrats were still supporting ‘separate but equal’ rights for blacks as late as 1968.
So I ask you frankf, why do Democrats hate black people?
Did you elect Obama because of white guilt, or do you actually feel he is doing a superb job? It seems to me there is no accountability in this administration.
I don’t vote party lines. I get tired of hearing all the crap about what each party did. They both suck if nobody thinks independently and for the good of the country. I want the best person for the job in the office, and I just don’t think Obama is it.
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Jan 2, 2014 13:28:17 GMT -4
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Post by emsguru on Jan 2, 2014 13:28:17 GMT -4
I'm not a historian but it seems like there was somewhat of a switch of ideals and thinking between parties from the 60s on.
Unless the republicans of the north all moved south and the democrats of the south all moved north.
If there wasn't a switch at some point in history, the Republican Party would be the ones fighting for marriage equality today.
But I could be wrong.
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Post by Frank on Jan 2, 2014 14:01:17 GMT -4
I'm not a historian but it seems like there was somewhat of a switch of ideals and thinking between parties from the 60s on. Unless the republicans of the north all moved south and the democrats of the south all moved north. If there wasn't a switch at some point in history, the Republican Party would be the ones fighting for marriage equality today. But I could be wrong. Sorry to confuse you emsguru, my response was more of a sarcastic shot at the idiotic remarks from frankf. However, you are right. The line in the sand by the two parties is continously moving. People that blindly follow their political party need to do a little more homework before pulling the lever. I alway feel I am not represented by either party. They are all selfish pigs!
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Post by barnaclebill on Jan 2, 2014 14:03:57 GMT -4
I'm not a historian but it seems like there was somewhat of a switch of ideals and thinking between parties from the 60s on. Unless the republicans of the north all moved south and the democrats of the south all moved north. If there wasn't a switch at some point in history, the Republican Party would be the ones fighting for marriage equality today. But I could be wrong. Certainly the South went from Democratic to Republican after the 60's.
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Post by deepsea on Jan 9, 2014 7:13:00 GMT -4
More Star Wars
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