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Post by falgar25 on May 2, 2014 20:53:12 GMT -4
So what did you think? I like the step system and it wouldn't affect laineys taxes. It seemed like a good solution. I agree and reducing the number of lots down so that they do not overwhelm the existing homeowners seems fair. But, the lies keep coming from those who are adamantly opposed to correcting this problem. Delay or deny seems to rule the day. I am pretty sure the commissioners see right through that but who knows. Even if this voted on, the first homes being connected would not be till 2018 and the last homes in 2030. "Lies?" Or predictions of the future that don't agree with your prediction of the future? Are you that sure you are correct and they are lying? Do you think it might just be possible that they are sure that they are correct and are just as convinced that you are lying? "Adamantly opposed to correcting this problem?" Or possibly not as convinced as you are that the island is ankle deep in sewage and everyone is just days away from a holding tank.
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Post by jackbquick on May 2, 2014 22:05:48 GMT -4
I agree and reducing the number of lots down so that they do not overwhelm the existing homeowners seems fair. But, the lies keep coming from those who are adamantly opposed to correcting this problem. Delay or deny seems to rule the day. I am pretty sure the commissioners see right through that but who knows. Even if this voted on, the first homes being connected would not be till 2018 and the last homes in 2030. "Lies?" Or predictions of the future that don't agree with your prediction of the future? Are you that sure you are correct and they are lying? Do you think it might just be possible that they are sure that they are correct and are just as convinced that you are lying? "Adamantly opposed to correcting this problem?" Or possibly not as convinced as you are that the island is ankle deep in sewage and everyone is just days away from a holding tank. Flagler, I don't know brother. I do know many people are having problems. Not everyone but what if you were one of 5 or so on holding tanks and going up since the new holding tank policy? Are you even in one of the impacted communities?
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Post by falgar25 on May 2, 2014 22:40:39 GMT -4
... Are you even in one of the impacted communities? I have been on this forum long enough to remember certain members visiting others to discuss their postings in person. I have met a former member who turned out to be unstable and is now incarcerated. Fortunately, I didn't provided enough information to connect a user name, a face, a real name, a phone number, or an address and so I never had a personal visit even though that was offered more than once. Therefore, I don't think I'll share where I live this time either.
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Post by burnerbill on May 2, 2014 22:50:53 GMT -4
I, for one, am a cheap SOB. I don't want to pay an extra $100/month if I don't have to. But the reality is, it's the right thing to do. It's right for the enviroment, and it's right for the homeowners with failing septics and falling home values because of the septic. The cost is fully burdened by the users of the system, not other county residents. Why should lainey care if they construct this or not. It doesn't affect her taxes. People talked about looking into alternatives, well the step system is an alternative to constructing a sewer system similar to Bay City and Cloverfields. It's a third the cost and only pumps the liquid waste, but that's the problem in SKI - too much water. People complained about 500 additional homes, not enough police protection, etc. They fail to realize 500 additional homes brings in approx $3,000,000 in additional tax revenue. More services could be provided with additional revenue. That is, as long as officials don't piss it away! Frank, I am not immune to the thought of having to endure another "utility" bill and take on new debt if this comes through. But, as you noted, there is a long term view to this and not the short term, knee jerk, "I do not want this now." reaction from many opponents. I believe it goes without saying, if this system could be brought down to SKI for "free", who would turn it down? Also, how many residents in Bay City or Cloverfields would want to turn back the clock and live in a septic environment again? The pain is enduring the process of change and many do not want to endure and would rather stay ignorant. It is like driving a car with 4 bald tires. I can still get where I want since the tires still "work" and one day I'll have to do something. Hey, there is a sale on tires, buy 2 get 2 free, but not now, it is not convenient. I could have gotten that great deal to fix all the tires for good, but, I'll wait until one blows out. Then I'll scream why didn't I fix this earlier when it was cheaper? You know this will happen if this gets delayed further.
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Post by jackbquick on May 2, 2014 23:55:11 GMT -4
... Are you even in one of the impacted communities? I have been on this forum long enough to remember certain members visiting others to discuss their postings in person. I have met a former member who turned out to be unstable and is now incarcerated. Fortunately, I didn't provided enough information to connect a user name, a face, a real name, a phone number, or an address and so I never had a personal visit even though that was offered more than once. Therefore, I don't think I'll share where I live this time either. Ok. I live in one of the nine communities. Come find me.
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Post by falgar25 on May 3, 2014 19:55:20 GMT -4
I have been on this forum long enough to remember certain members visiting others to discuss their postings in person. I have met a former member who turned out to be unstable and is now incarcerated. Fortunately, I didn't provided enough information to connect a user name, a face, a real name, a phone number, or an address and so I never had a personal visit even though that was offered more than once. Therefore, I don't think I'll share where I live this time either. Ok. I live in one of the nine communities. Come find me. No thank you, I'm not likely to do that. Those were the actions of a disturbed individual, not me. I am really leaning towards calling BS on your statement, but things change so maybe it is true now. In the end, none of that matters. You clearly have an interest in the sewer whether it is the health issue, the loss of property values, or the potential gain in value of undeveloped lots and so you will argue for what you believe is best for you. Good luck. Others worry about increased taxes, school overcrowding, and road congestion caused by infill. Good luck to them too.
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Post by bchevy on May 4, 2014 6:32:18 GMT -4
For those of you in favor of the cheaper STEP system, that is a liquids only.
Where do you think the solids go? They settle in the tank, and eventually need pumped out. Where I work this is on the county to do. if not done right (often enough) solids build up, take away capacity in your tank, andget to the pump and clog it, and back up in your house or out in your yard. I see it almost daily.
Now- I'm in Bay City, been here since the system was installed. Not once has the county been in my yard, not once have I been backed up. what, 20+ years on water & sewer? and not a problem.
Don't push for the STEP system, you will be sorry.
UNLESS OF COURSE YOU ARE JUST LOOKING FOR ANY SYSTEM AT ALL, SO YOU CAN GET IT, SELL YOUR HOUSE, AND BEAT FEET OUTTA HERE? OR YOU WANT TO BUILD ON THAT CHEAP VACANT LOT YOU BOUGHT AND NEED TO GOV'T TO MAKE IT BUILDABLE.
It's like buying a car. Do you want a Yugo, Chevy, or a Honda? How many miles do you want out of it and how often do you want to work on it?
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Post by burnerbill on May 4, 2014 10:44:55 GMT -4
For those of you in favor of the cheaper STEP system, that is a liquids only. Where do you think the solids go? They settle in the tank, and eventually need pumped out. Where I work this is on the county to do. if not done right (often enough) solids build up, take away capacity in your tank, andget to the pump and clog it, and back up in your house or out in your yard. I see it almost daily. Now- I'm in Bay City, been here since the system was installed. Not once has the county been in my yard, not once have I been backed up. what, 20+ years on water & sewer? and not a problem. Don't push for the STEP system, you will be sorry. UNLESS OF COURSE YOU ARE JUST LOOKING FOR ANY SYSTEM AT ALL, SO YOU CAN GET IT, SELL YOUR HOUSE, AND BEAT FEET OUTTA HERE? OR YOU WANT TO BUILD ON THAT CHEAP VACANT LOT YOU BOUGHT AND NEED TO GOV'T TO MAKE IT BUILDABLE. It's like buying a car. Do you want a Yugo, Chevy, or a Honda? How many miles do you want out of it and how often do you want to work on it? bchevy, I totally get what you are saying. Of course one would rather have the "cadillac" of sewer systems in place, but, one of the largest issues besetting this project is costs to the existing homeowners. Many of whom are older and on fixed income. One has to trust the engineers and folks looking at this believe this can work. Like with everything, if you focus on some negative aspects, which you are here about the STEP system, it clouds all the good it can provide. If all we are to do is wait for perfection in anything we do, nothing would ever get done.
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Post by bchevy on May 4, 2014 16:09:10 GMT -4
For those of you in favor of the cheaper STEP system, that is a liquids only. Where do you think the solids go? They settle in the tank, and eventually need pumped out. Where I work this is on the county to do. if not done right (often enough) solids build up, take away capacity in your tank, andget to the pump and clog it, and back up in your house or out in your yard. I see it almost daily. Now- I'm in Bay City, been here since the system was installed. Not once has the county been in my yard, not once have I been backed up. what, 20+ years on water & sewer? and not a problem. Don't push for the STEP system, you will be sorry. UNLESS OF COURSE YOU ARE JUST LOOKING FOR ANY SYSTEM AT ALL, SO YOU CAN GET IT, SELL YOUR HOUSE, AND BEAT FEET OUTTA HERE? OR YOU WANT TO BUILD ON THAT CHEAP VACANT LOT YOU BOUGHT AND NEED TO GOV'T TO MAKE IT BUILDABLE. It's like buying a car. Do you want a Yugo, Chevy, or a Honda? How many miles do you want out of it and how often do you want to work on it? bchevy, I totally get what you are saying. Of course one would rather have the "cadillac" of sewer systems in place, but, one of the largest issues besetting this project is costs to the existing homeowners. Many of whom are older and on fixed income. One has to trust the engineers and folks looking at this believe this can work. Like with everything, if you focus on some negative aspects, which you are here about the STEP system, it clouds all the good it can provide. If all we are to do is wait for perfection in anything we do, nothing would ever get done. BB, No, you don;t get what I'm saying, not at all. If you got it, you would change your tune. I can only tell you what I KNOW. I've made my living on fixing and maintaining 2 different STEP systems for the last 23+ YEARS. In 20 years I've had NO PROBLEMS in my Bay City Connections (TWO OF THEM) I'm not trying to focus on the negative aspects, I'm TRYING TO SAME SOME MORE FOOLISH MOVES BY SOME FOOLISH AND HASTY PEOPLE. TRUST THE ENGINEERS? Good one Bill, I'm still living that dream across the bay. You don't need PERFECTION, or a CADILLAC System, what you need is what is PROVEN TO WORK, and that is the systems we have now.
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Post by jackbquick on May 4, 2014 18:16:18 GMT -4
bchevy, I totally get what you are saying. Of course one would rather have the "cadillac" of sewer systems in place, but, one of the largest issues besetting this project is costs to the existing homeowners. Many of whom are older and on KI fixed income. One has to trust the engineers and folks looking at this believe this can work. Like with everything, if you focus on some negative aspects, which you are here about the STEP system, it clouds all the good it can provide. If all we are to do is wait for perfection in anything we do, nothing would ever get done. BB, No, you don;t get what I'm saying, not at all. If you got it, you would change your tune. I can only tell you what I KNOW. I've made my living on fixing and maintaining 2 different STEP systems for the last 23+ YEARS. In 20 years I've had NO PROBLEMS in my Bay City Connections (TWO OF THEM) I'm not trying to focus on the negative aspects, I'm TRYING TO SAME SOME MORE FOOLISH MOVES BY SOME FOOLISH AND HASTY PEOPLE. TRUST THE ENGINEERS? Good one Bill, I'm still living that dream across the bay. You don't need PERFECTION, or a CADILLAC System, what you need is what is PROVEN TO WORK, and that is the systems we have now. bchevy, On the bright side you can apply for a job on this side of the bridge and repair this system on a regular basis. Holpfully you can get a raise as well. Just because you have not had a problem doesn't mean there is no problems going on behind the scenes. The county has to maintain pump/lift stations that have problems and needs to be maintained and that equipment needs to be upgraded as well. They are very expensive to build and maintain.
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Post by bchevy on May 4, 2014 21:20:45 GMT -4
BB, No, you don;t get what I'm saying, not at all. If you got it, you would change your tune. I can only tell you what I KNOW. I've made my living on fixing and maintaining 2 different STEP systems for the last 23+ YEARS. In 20 years I've had NO PROBLEMS in my Bay City Connections (TWO OF THEM) I'm not trying to focus on the negative aspects, I'm TRYING TO SAME SOME MORE FOOLISH MOVES BY SOME FOOLISH AND HASTY PEOPLE. TRUST THE ENGINEERS? Good one Bill, I'm still living that dream across the bay. You don't need PERFECTION, or a CADILLAC System, what you need is what is PROVEN TO WORK, and that is the systems we have now. bchevy, On the bright side you can apply for a job on this side of the bridge and repair this system on a regular basis. Holpfully you can get a raise as well. Just because you have not had a problem doesn't mean there is no problems going on behind the scenes. The county has to maintain pump/lift stations that have problems and needs to be maintained and that equipment needs to be upgraded as well. They are very expensive to build and maintain. Sorry, not enough pay over here.... Not even close. and on the right side, No Crap Sherlock. All systems need maintenance and repair. I work on the good ones too, just not nearly as often. I see our crews out and the stations and out all hours if needed. I even offered assistance after Isabel after my 12 hour shifts. Go ahead and push for the cheap way out. You'll be sorry and know you were warned, but you'll never admit it to anyone but yourself. That, or you'll sell out and flee the state right after you connect to the system. Which one will it be?
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Post by Frank on May 5, 2014 8:35:04 GMT -4
OK bchevy, here's what I learned.
The step system pumps liquids only. That's the largest problem we have in SKI. The solids get pumped out every 5 to 10 years. This is included in the $30/month. The homeowner has a holding tank installed in the front yard, also included in the $30/month. My home is on a slab with the sewer exiting the back of the house. Again that's not a problem. They will do all the plumbing for it, included. An electric pump is installed in the tank with two backflow preventers. The electricity to run the pump will be on me. That's understandable. The cost to construct a total public sewer system would be in excess of $50 million. The step system will run under $20 million. As I read about different cities with this system, I haven't come across anything negative.
I agree, it's not what you have in Bay City, but what other options do you recommend for SKI? Doing nothing is like waiting for a bomb to explode.
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Post by lainey on May 5, 2014 16:05:38 GMT -4
EXactly my point Frank! Yes, those additional 500 homes will require additional services, like school buildings. The last school we built cost like 15 million. Their taxes wont be enough to cover their impact on our community, as JBQ pointed out, no impact fees as this is not new development. And that is why I have an issue with SKI Sewer, those new folks will be a drain on this already overtaxed bedroom community. We get all the costs and none of the benefits. We get to educate those new 500 homes full of kids. We get to provide emergency medical services, we will need to patrol more densely populated communities in ski. Cloverfields used to be a very quiet community. Now that sewer is there, so is crime. Lots of service costs, a little new tax revenue, and the math does not equate to lower taxes, nor does the SKI sewer project only impact those residents of those communities. WE all get to pay for the other services. Lainey, I never said no impact fees? Every lot will pay an impact fee of around $10,000. The purpose of the fee is to pay for all those services you are talking about above. Each new home will pay annual property taxes to share the cost of services all homeowners get. Yes you did. APFO does not apply to existing lots. Also, APFO is to make sure capacity is adequate in the schools which they are for the infill. Impact fees pay for that or the beach permit fee if the impact fees are not enough. Your words from April 29
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Post by lainey on May 5, 2014 16:06:37 GMT -4
APFO does not apply to existing lots. Also, APFO is to make sure capacity is adequate in the schools which they are for the infill. Impact fees pay for that or the beach permit fee if the impact fees are not enough.
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Post by jackbquick on May 5, 2014 18:49:31 GMT -4
Lainey, I never said no impact fees? Every lot will pay an impact fee of around $10,000. The purpose of the fee is to pay for all those services you are talking about above. Each new home will pay annual property taxes to share the cost of services all homeowners get. Yes you did. APFO does not apply to existing lots. Also, APFO is to make sure capacity is adequate in the schools which they are for the infill. Impooact fees pay for that or the beach permit fee if the impact fees are not enough. Your words from April 29 Lainey, I stand by my words. APFO does not apply to existing lots of record. Just because a lot does not apply to APFO does not mean it doesn't have to pay impact fees. Irrelevant whether a property applys to APFO in order to determine if it does or does not have to pay impact fees. Every vacant lot or any potential future subdivision subject to the APFO test will have to pay impact fees if there ever is a vacant lot that has a new home go on it!
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Post by jackbquick on May 5, 2014 18:56:20 GMT -4
Lainey, I never said no impact fees? Every lot will pay an impact fee of around $10,000. The purpose of the fee is to pay for all those services you are talking about above. Each new home will pay annual property taxes to share the cost of services all homeowners get. Yes you did. APFO does not apply to existing lots. Also, APFO is to make sure capacity is adequate in the schools which they are for the infill. Impact fees pay for that or the beach permit fee if the impact fees are not enough. Your words from April 29 Let me say it another way. APFO applies to new potential subdivisions. These are existing lots of record and is not a new subdivisions. Vacant lots if they are existing or future potential vacant lots as a result of a new subdivision that passes the APFO test will pay impact fees.
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Post by deputy on May 6, 2014 11:56:55 GMT -4
OK bchevy, here's what I learned. The step system pumps liquids only. That's the largest problem we have in SKI. The solids get pumped out every 5 to 10 years. This is included in the $30/month. The homeowner has a holding tank installed in the front yard, also included in the $30/month. My home is on a slab with the sewer exiting the back of the house. Again that's not a problem. They will do all the plumbing for it, included. An electric pump is installed in the tank with two backflow preventers. The electricity to run the pump will be on me. That's understandable. The cost to construct a total public sewer system would be in excess of $50 million. The step system will run under $20 million. As I read about different cities with this system, I haven't come across anything negative. I agree, it's not what you have in Bay City, but what other options do you recommend for SKI? Doing nothing is like waiting for a bomb to explode. nothing new there, STEP systems are liquid only, there are also grinder pump systems that take all your effluent, grinding the solids and pumping it all out to the system With The systems I work on, (A LOT) I doubt the owners would tell you about the headaches. I'm sure they'd be embarrassed. Engineers can be wrong, designs can be great, and not installed right (low bid) Electric lines get damaged, A LOT, pumps fail, controls fail. Really wet/low yards? and you'll have an electrical junction box of other apparatus in your yard. Wet and Electric.... enough said. Can you wonder why there are TWO backflow preventers? Partial history: there used to be none, then there was one, none didn't work, and one started failing, how do you know if one of your two have failed? You wont until they both fail. You can NOT put your faith in most engineers and designers, they are long gone and out of the picture by the time any of these issues come up. All of that is with normal flows, just wait until the storms come, tides rise, system is overwhelmed.....etc, etc, etc The biggest thing I like about the systems we have on KI, best I can tell is I can't get backed up into my house from the street, it should come out the vent pipe in my yard 1st. Yes, I'd rather have it in my yard than in my house. Ever had a house full of sewage? not pretty. Going cheap NEVER SAVES. I can tell you, where I am the whole county pays for the high maintenance on the cheaper systems. There is no magic fund that only these users pay.
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Post by Frank on May 6, 2014 13:38:30 GMT -4
OK Deputy. I hear lots of criticisms, but no recommendations. I'm no expert. What options are there? Seems to me doing nothing is the worst option.
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Post by deputy on May 6, 2014 13:51:13 GMT -4
OK Deputy. I hear lots of criticisms, but no recommendations. I'm no expert. What options are there? Seems to me doing nothing is the worst option. Why is what I have criticism? I can't make this up and I see more of it everyday. Options? Go with what you know works. Go with what your personnel already know how to work on. Go with the least amount of parts, parts in the ground, parts mounted to the house, etc. Don't build a system that only handles part of the process. The rest of the process needs fixed too and if you don't handle it all at once, you get more complicated, more overhead, more BS with our not so faithful government always playing catch-up. I never, EVER said do nothing. (At least I don't think I did)
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Post by jackbquick on May 6, 2014 14:38:16 GMT -4
OK Deputy. I hear lots of criticisms, but no recommendations. I'm no expert. What options are there? Seems to me doing nothing is the worst option. Why is what I have criticism? I can't make this up and I see more of it everyday. Options? Go with what you know works. Go with what your personnel already know how to work on. Go with the least amount of parts, parts in the ground, parts mounted to the house, etc. Don't build a system that only handles part of the process. The rest of the process needs fixed too and if you don't handle it all at once, you get more complicated, more overhead, more BS with our not so faithful government always playing catch-up. I never, EVER said do nothing. (At least I don't think I did) No surprise here. If they went with the traditional sewer you would be punching holes in that. Stall stall stall so the sewer doesn't forever change the Island. Right Deputy? Meanwhile people have a illiquid asset because they can't sell their home because of the stigma of a holding tank.
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Post by burnerbill on May 6, 2014 15:44:25 GMT -4
OK bchevy, here's what I learned. The step system pumps liquids only. That's the largest problem we have in SKI. The solids get pumped out every 5 to 10 years. This is included in the $30/month. The homeowner has a holding tank installed in the front yard, also included in the $30/month. My home is on a slab with the sewer exiting the back of the house. Again that's not a problem. They will do all the plumbing for it, included. An electric pump is installed in the tank with two backflow preventers. The electricity to run the pump will be on me. That's understandable. The cost to construct a total public sewer system would be in excess of $50 million. The step system will run under $20 million. As I read about different cities with this system, I haven't come across anything negative. I agree, it's not what you have in Bay City, but what other options do you recommend for SKI? Doing nothing is like waiting for a bomb to explode. nothing new there, STEP systems are liquid only, there are also grinder pump systems that take all your effluent, grinding the solids and pumping it all out to the system With The systems I work on, (A LOT) I doubt the owners would tell you about the headaches. I'm sure they'd be embarrassed. Engineers can be wrong, designs can be great, and not installed right (low bid) Electric lines get damaged, A LOT, pumps fail, controls fail. Really wet/low yards? and you'll have an electrical junction box of other apparatus in your yard. Wet and Electric.... enough said. Can you wonder why there are TWO backflow preventers? Partial history: there used to be none, then there was one, none didn't work, and one started failing, how do you know if one of your two have failed? You wont until they both fail. You can NOT put your faith in most engineers and designers, they are long gone and out of the picture by the time any of these issues come up. All of that is with normal flows, just wait until the storms come, tides rise, system is overwhelmed.....etc, etc, etc The biggest thing I like about the systems we have on KI, best I can tell is I can't get backed up into my house from the street, it should come out the vent pipe in my yard 1st. Yes, I'd rather have it in my yard than in my house. Ever had a house full of sewage? not pretty. Going cheap NEVER SAVES. I can tell you, where I am the whole county pays for the high maintenance on the cheaper systems. There is no magic fund that only these users pay. Deputy, THANKS for the insight and I get it. When you still have a tank and moving parts, we can't say you are flushing it away forever and there won't be problems. What the county is trying to do is mitigate this project to satisfy two sides: #1 - the impact of costs to a large part of the population in SKI who live on fixed income etc. #2 - Counter the cries from opponents this is an expensive boondoggle being foisted on the taxpayers even though this is a "user" paid system. You are also right about there being no "magic fund" to pay for this, it is called my checkbook! Personally, a full system like I had in Pasadena is the best, but costs more for everyone to install and I believe the service charges are higher. Either way, if and when this happens, less crap to put up with around here!!! (-;
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Post by cruzincat on May 7, 2014 7:46:25 GMT -4
Why is what I have criticism? I can't make this up and I see more of it everyday. Options? Go with what you know works. Go with what your personnel already know how to work on. Go with the least amount of parts, parts in the ground, parts mounted to the house, etc. Don't build a system that only handles part of the process. The rest of the process needs fixed too and if you don't handle it all at once, you get more complicated, more overhead, more BS with our not so faithful government always playing catch-up. I never, EVER said do nothing. (At least I don't think I did) No surprise here. If they went with the traditional sewer you would be punching holes in that. Stall stall stall so the sewer doesn't forever change the Island. Right Deputy? Meanwhile people have a illiquid asset because they can't sell their home because of the stigma of a holding tank. I am sure there will be some prospective buyers that will rule out SKI because of the $1200 per year additional cost to live here. How much do you have to lower your selling price to make up $100 per month in the mortgage payments?
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Post by Frank on May 7, 2014 8:13:55 GMT -4
Not necessarily. If I sold my home, I could pay off the $14K with the proceeds. With public sewer, the home value goes up more than the %$14K I'm paying off. Everyone wins. The new homeowner would only have the $30/month service fee, and not have to worry about septic tanks again.
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Post by burnerbill on May 7, 2014 9:00:39 GMT -4
Not necessarily. If I sold my home, I could pay off the $14K with the proceeds. With public sewer, the home value goes up more than the %$14K I'm paying off. Everyone wins. The new homeowner would only have the $30/month service fee, and not have to worry about septic tanks again. Frank, you are so correct. When I was looking at homes back in 2002 to buy and move here from Pasadena, many of them would have a statement the sewer "bond" was paid off. Currently, without the sewer, think about the impact to the sale a home on a holding tank causes? For the most part, if a home under contract fails the septic field test, in which the county determines whether or not there is evidence of ground water intrusion within 2 feet of the "surface", how much must that sale price be reduced to compensate for the expected $500-$700 monthly pump out costs? Doesn't $500-$700 represent about $100,000 of mortgage principal for a 30 year loan?
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Post by jackbquick on May 7, 2014 9:19:30 GMT -4
No surprise here. If they went with the traditional sewer you would be punching holes in that. Stall stall stall so the sewer doesn't forever change the Island. Right Deputy? Meanwhile people have a illiquid asset because they can't sell their home because of the stigma of a holding tank. I am sure there will be some prospective buyers that will rule out SKI because of the $1200 per year additional cost to live here. How much do you have to lower your selling price to make up $100 per month in the mortgage payments? Answer. $25,000. So buy a comparable home on septic for $25,000 less.
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