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Post by deepsea on Jul 9, 2014 7:57:13 GMT -4
Barry Soetoro need to use his pen and phone to close the border. The U.S. administration sought on Tuesday to halt a cross-border surge of unaccompanied children from Central America, asking Congress for $3.7 billion in emergency spending and putting in place plans to quicken the youngsters' deportation hearings. It was President Barack Obama's most substantive effort to gain control of a humanitarian crisis along the Texas border with Mexico and fend off Republican Party critics demanding a tougher response. www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/08/us-usa-immigration-obama-idUSKBN0FC28220140708
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Post by KITransplant on Jul 9, 2014 9:44:12 GMT -4
Will be closed once there are enough new voters to turn Texas and Arizona blue.
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Post by emsguru on Jul 9, 2014 13:45:47 GMT -4
Central America, a key transshipment point for drug smuggling between South America and the United States, has a long history of gang violence and the problem has mushroomed in recent years owing to turf wars fought by ruthless Mexican drug cartels. Honduras has the world’s highest murder rate, according to a report released by the United Nations in April.
I like this paragraph. Its funny how dumb the people of our country are. "we hate drugs, lets spend billions and billions to stop them."
Drug usage doesn't go down. In turn Mexico and Central America suffer and drug gangs cause it to be a place people don't want to raise their kids. Spend billions more to kick them out of our country, and billions more to close the border and fight the drug war harder. In turn their country gets worse, more kids come.
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Post by deepsea on Jul 10, 2014 4:38:34 GMT -4
Some of the illegal immigrants surging across the U.S. border from Central America and creating a growing humanitarian crisis may be wearing tennis shoes emblazoned with images in praise of President Barack Obama “I’ve received two sets of photos from two contacts at the border,” Lynch explains. “I cannot validate the authenticity of the pictures. But I can say the agents who sent these to me is among a handful of agents who have sent me accurate information over the past few months.” The agent works at a processing center in South Texas that is managing the massive inflow of illegal immigrants, Lynch says. “For people who may think this is a fake picture, notice the shoe laces. We make everyone remove their laces,” Lynch’s unidentified contact said. It’s not clear who would have distributed the shoes. dailycaller.com/2014/07/09/are-illegal-immigrants-wearing-obama-shoes-now-photos/
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Post by oriolesfan on Jul 10, 2014 12:08:43 GMT -4
Keep it open. Who cares
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Post by deepsea on Jul 11, 2014 21:29:49 GMT -4
BLACK AMERICAN FROM GANG-BESIEGED BALTIMORE: 'WHERE CAN I GET ASYLUM? As the White House plans to spend billions of taxpayer funds to take care of illegal immigrant children who are unlawfully entering the country, some black Americans who live in some of the most dangerous neighborhoods are wondering where they and their children can get refugee status and aid. On Friday's Laura Ingraham Show, Elaine, a black woman from Baltimore, expressed her outrage that President Barack Obama is putting the interests of illegal immigrant children above those of American citizens. Though the number of illegal immigrant children unlawfully entering the country has spiked since Obama unilaterally enacted his temporary amnesty program in 2012, the White House has said the primary cause of the border crisis is the rampant gang violence in Central America. "I'm living a nightmare. My whole neighborhood is so violent. There's so much crime," she said. "I have gangs everywhere here in Baltimore! I can't let my daughter ride her bicycle outside – I can't do anything, Laura! I'm trapped here." www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/07/11/Black-American-from-Baltimore-Where-Can-I-Get-Asylum
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Post by frankf on Jul 11, 2014 21:45:51 GMT -4
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Post by falgar25 on Jul 11, 2014 22:34:55 GMT -4
Actually, it doesn't. Read the information on the link you provided. There is another law signed in 2008 that is being used to justify slowing the return. That law was a re-authorization of a 2000 law dealing with trafficking in persons. So I suppose you could say it was a Bill Clinton law that George Bush continued. It is probably a good law though any law these days is darned confusing to read. It was originally intended to stop trafficking in persons so who knows if it is being used appropriately in this case. Since the law applies to alien children reaching the US, one way to avoid the problem would be to keep the aliens from reaching the US. If people were getting into my house illegally I would find a way to stop it. If people were getting into the White House you know the Secret Service would find a way to stop it. Why then are we willing to accept that people get into the US illegally? Why don't we stop it?
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Post by deepsea on Jul 12, 2014 6:31:45 GMT -4
Obama to Permit Young Migrants to Remain in U.S. Hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants who came to the United States as children will be allowed to remain in the country without fear of deportation and able to work, under an executive action the Obama administration announced on Friday. Administration officials said the president used existing legal authority to make the broad policy change, which could temporarily benefit more than 800,000 young people. He did not consult with Congress, where Republicans have generally opposed measures to benefit illegal immigrants. The policy, while not granting any permanent legal status, clears the way for young illegal immigrants to come out of the shadows, work legally and obtain driver’s licenses and many other documents they have lacked. “They are Americans in their heart, in their minds, in every single way but one: on paper,” President Obama said in announcing the new policy in the White House Rose Garden on Friday. He said he was taking “a temporary stopgap measure” that would “lift the shadow of deportation from these young people” and make immigration policy “more fair, more efficient and more just.” Under the change, the Department of Homeland Security will no longer initiate the deportation of illegal immigrants who came to the United States before age 16, have lived here for at least five years, and are in school, are high school graduates or are military veterans in good standing. The immigrants must also be not more than 30 and have clean criminal records. www.nytimes.com/2012/06/16/us/us-to-stop-deporting-some-illegal-immigrants.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
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Post by RobMoore on Jul 12, 2014 8:57:22 GMT -4
Actually, it doesn't. Read the information on the link you provided. There is another law signed in 2008 that is being used to justify slowing the return. That law was a re-authorization of a 2000 law dealing with trafficking in persons. So I suppose you could say it was a Bill Clinton law that George Bush continued. It is probably a good law though any law these days is darned confusing to read. It was originally intended to stop trafficking in persons so who knows if it is being used appropriately in this case. Since the law applies to alien children reaching the US, one way to avoid the problem would be to keep the aliens from reaching the US. If people were getting into my house illegally I would find a way to stop it. If people were getting into the White House you know the Secret Service would find a way to stop it. Why then are we willing to accept that people get into the US illegally? Why don't we stop it? How much money do you think we should throw at the problem? It's a big border. I would approach the problem from a different angle. Make life extremely difficult for undocumented people and remove the incentive to come here. If you couldn't find a job, make use of state services, get a license, health care, were not accommodated in any way, you might find life here tougher than back home. Couple this with an easier process for those attempting entry legally, and people would be more willing to wait in line.
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Post by emsguru on Jul 12, 2014 9:30:40 GMT -4
Actually, it doesn't. Read the information on the link you provided. There is another law signed in 2008 that is being used to justify slowing the return. That law was a re-authorization of a 2000 law dealing with trafficking in persons. So I suppose you could say it was a Bill Clinton law that George Bush continued. It is probably a good law though any law these days is darned confusing to read. It was originally intended to stop trafficking in persons so who knows if it is being used appropriately in this case. Since the law applies to alien children reaching the US, one way to avoid the problem would be to keep the aliens from reaching the US. If people were getting into my house illegally I would find a way to stop it. If people were getting into the White House you know the Secret Service would find a way to stop it. Why then are we willing to accept that people get into the US illegally? Why don't we stop it? How much money do you think we should throw at the problem? It's a big border. I would approach the problem from a different angle. Make life extremely difficult for undocumented people and remove the incentive to come here. If you couldn't find a job, make use of state services, get a license, health care, were not accommodated in any way, you might find life here tougher than back home. Couple this with an easier process for those attempting entry legally, and people would be more willing to wait in line. So true. If you hire an illegal person to work in your business you lose it. i imagine it would be pretty tough for me to go to Iceland and apply for a job. But are you willing to pay double for your crabmeat, produce, or other stuff that illegals and migrant workers do?
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Post by RobMoore on Jul 12, 2014 14:10:52 GMT -4
I rarely eat store bought crab meat. Takes all the fun out of shelling them myself.
I grow 80% of the vegetables that my family eats.
I do my own landscaping.
So yeah, along with many other things that cheap labor brings us, I think we can go without it.
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Post by frankf on Jul 12, 2014 22:43:36 GMT -4
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Post by deepsea on Jul 13, 2014 8:13:46 GMT -4
Doesn't matter when or how it started. What matters is no one is stopping it! I don't hear the Republicans screaming to halt the invasion and of course obama is doing nothing about it.
If they wanted to the politicians could shut the border down today. So why haven't they?
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Post by emsguru on Jul 13, 2014 9:14:33 GMT -4
Doesn't matter when or how it started. What matters is no one is stopping it! I don't hear the Republicans screaming to halt the invasion and of course obama is doing nothing about it. If they wanted to the politicians could shut the border down today. So why haven't they? how much would it cost? Do you built a 20 foot wall. Station an agent every 300 feet to ensure that no one crosses?
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Post by kiboater on Jul 13, 2014 11:18:42 GMT -4
Doesn't matter when or how it started. What matters is no one is stopping it! I don't hear the Republicans screaming to halt the invasion and of course obama is doing nothing about it. If they wanted to the politicians could shut the border down today. So why haven't they? how much would it cost? Do you built a 20 foot wall. Station an agent every 300 feet to ensure that no one crosses? The other side of this argument: CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER: Alright, here's what I've been on for years. You start with a fence. It's very simple. People say, 'Oh, fences don't work. You make a ladder.' Well, then you build two fences, triple strand fences. San Diego did that in the mid 90's and within a decade, the illegal immigration rate at that point was reduced by 90% and people ended up going through other places like Arizona. If fences don't work, why is there one around the White House? If they don't work, why is it that the Israeli fence which separate Israel from the West Bank has cut down terror attacks within Israel by 99%. Fences work. Yes, there are parts of the border where you can't have a fence, fine. So you don't have it in those areas and you do heavy patrols. But there is no reason why a rich country like us cannot put a fence across -- a double fence, a triple fence and patrol it all the time. That would have a tremendous impact.
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Post by deepsea on Jul 14, 2014 7:09:17 GMT -4
Doesn't matter when or how it started. What matters is no one is stopping it! I don't hear the Republicans screaming to halt the invasion and of course obama is doing nothing about it. If they wanted to the politicians could shut the border down today. So why haven't they? how much would it cost? Do you built a 20 foot wall. Station an agent every 300 feet to ensure that no one crosses? Do something/anything? If this country can send men to fight in wars halfway around the world we can secure the our borders! Its not rocket surgery. If our Government can listen in on every Americana's cell phone, read every key stroke of our computers that we use then we can stop the invasion from the south. This is a plan by our government to allow the illegal flow of immigrants to our country so they can change our red states to blue. Pay now for a more secure border or pay 10X's more in the near future. Simple. Why is the border patrol posted 45 miles away from the border?
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Post by KITransplant on Jul 14, 2014 8:06:59 GMT -4
So which one of you guys has been posting stuff about the border along Route 50? They're a bit hard to read, but I'll give you an E for effort.
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Post by deepsea on Jul 14, 2014 8:31:11 GMT -4
Obama was able to close down Washington Mall, he was able to stop veteran’s ceremonies, he’s able to shut down a Blue Ridge Parkway, he was even able to shut down the Grand Canyon, visits to the Grand Canyon, he’s able to shut down visits to Jellystone National Park, he was able, while the World War II memorial was shut down, he allowed for a pro immigration rally… yet he tells us that he can’t shut down the border!” Rush Limbaugh
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Post by burnerbill on Jul 14, 2014 9:08:25 GMT -4
In my opinion... the US should determine the nationality of each child that enters the US, transport them to the embassy of that country, drop them off and let that embassy know they need to take case of THEIR OWN citizens and stop relying on the US to do their country's job. How about billing each country the cost to do so as well. One wonders if the roles were reversed and what these countries would do, huh?
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Post by Frank on Jul 14, 2014 11:23:07 GMT -4
Things are vastly different if you enter Mexico illegally. 1. Only professionals or investors can immigrate to the country. No unskilled laborers will be allowed in. Investors must be able to invest at least 40,000 times the daily average wage. If they can't, they are not allowed in. 2. Immigrants may purchase property, but locations and availability will be limited. Ocean front property cannot be purchased by immigrants. It is exclusively for citizens born in the country. 3. Immigrants cannot vote nor can they be elected to any public office. 4. Immigrants cannot collect any type of government assistance. 5. Immigrants cannot protest the countries government, policies or president. 6. Immigrants cannot display a flag of a foreign country. 7. Immigrants who have illegally entered the country will be found and imprisoned. factreal.wordpress.com/2010/05/08/mexico-vs-united-states-mexican-immigration-laws-are-tougher/
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Post by cruzincat on Jul 14, 2014 14:54:07 GMT -4
I wonder if they will give you a free ride from their northern border with the US, down to their border with Guatemala, if you wanted to go there. There must be a lot of empty seats in that direction.
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Post by deepsea on Jul 15, 2014 16:04:33 GMT -4
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