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Post by ljp on Nov 9, 2006 20:00:26 GMT -4
My problem is that Baltimore city, Montgomery County and PG County decided this race. They have entirely different issues than we have and their chosen candidates will cater to them because that is their support base. The E. Shore is basically an entirely different entity than the rest of the state and because of its smaller population, gets completely ignored by everyone, and our picks for gov mean nada. It's too bad that we can't succeed from MD and become what we are, a completely different state! Wasn't there a push awhile back for the Shore to succeed from MD as a separate entity? It really does seem that we vote primarily one way yet continually are subject to the politics of the geographical areas we moved away from.
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Post by jake on Nov 9, 2006 20:42:47 GMT -4
Look on the bright side, the Dem's have now killed any chance of winning the white house in 08', they will be in charge for the next two years, doing what?, raising taxes, going after Bush with a lynch-mob mentality, trashing our military and troops,and cowarding to the terrorists: after two years of this they will have no chance of putting a dem. president into the white house.
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Post by Mike on Nov 9, 2006 20:49:02 GMT -4
Good Point Jake
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Post by Frank on Nov 9, 2006 22:02:28 GMT -4
Not to mention, they have no-one qualified to run. And they know that!
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Post by Steve on Nov 9, 2006 23:36:36 GMT -4
"Would that be because of artificial caps in tuition by the previous administrations? The hike was inevitable else a complete collapse of the institutions."
Honestly, Blue mule - are you kidding. The State Universities are for the middle class. The government has a responsibility to provide a quality education at tuition that all can afford. Cutting taxes and simultaneously raising tuition by 40% is sticking it to the middle class parents, and is just a different type of tax increase.
Greensboro Mike - Are you kidding also? "Look on the bright side, the Dem's have now killed any chance of winning the white house in 08', they will be in charge for the next two years, doing what?, raising taxes, going after Bush with a lynch-mob mentality, trashing our military and troops, and cowarding to the terrorists......"
So the Republicans have better morals - let's just list the latest hit parade:
Foley - Republican member of Congress found to be a homosexual pedophile; Hastert - Republican leadership hiding the above fact; Cunningham and Delay - Republican members guilty of money laundering, Delay in bed with Abramoff Sherwood - Republican member having an affair with a mistress then assaulting/choking her; Weldon - FBI investigation because he gave favors to a foreign-controlled business that employed his daughter. Ney – in bed with Abramoff, guilty plea last month on corruption charges and resigned from Congress.
All that is acceptable, in addition to the GOP increasing non-defense spending, and exploding earmarks by billions of our tax dollars, and wasting more billions of tax dollars on no-bid contracts in Iraq and the Gulf coast for hurricane recovery - all that is OK, because we're "safer".
Well - time to wake up, because the chaos in Iraq has increased the terrorism risk and has become a training ground for terrorists - according to the Bush administration intelligence estimate.
So you fall back to the tired old line of Democrats raising taxes and being cowards -
The Bush tax cut went to the wealthy and upper middle class, who don’t care about anything but maintaining their own lifestyle. And cowards - I’m a Democrat and you are calling a former Marine the wrong thing. That line was a campaign slogan that was never right in the first place. And finally Congress has a job – it’s called oversight. Now we’ll see where our tax dollars went and why.
Wake up folks, the rest of the country already has.
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Post by Ray on Nov 10, 2006 1:47:18 GMT -4
Yay! Jesus loses! The creepy repubs that base everything on the equivalent of the Easter Bunny have gotten their ass handed to them by people that can think beyond gods and devils. Religious fanatics are all the same. Stupid and unreasonable. Whether they are muslims, christians or jews, they are all just dilusional. Republican are just crazy jesus freaks no different than the muslims. Yay for change and yay for reasonable thought.
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Post by BlueMule on Nov 10, 2006 6:49:19 GMT -4
"Would that be because of artificial caps in tuition by the previous administrations? The hike was inevitable else a complete collapse of the institutions." Honestly, Blue mule - are you kidding. The State Universities are for the middle class. The government has a responsibility to provide a quality education at tuition that all can afford. Cutting taxes and simultaneously raising tuition by 40% is sticking it to the middle class parents, and is just a different type of tax increase. Not kidding at all. I don't recall seeing anywhere that State Universities are solely for the middle class. Aren't they for everyone? How are the State Universities to maintain themselves? Where do improvements come from? How do you attract quality faculty? How do you maintain the campus with its buildings and infrastructure? Where does the tech and lab stuff come from? Where do those funds come from? Thin air? I hardly think so. I have yet to hear a valid answer. It will have to come from state coffers that are not a bottomless bucket. How are those maintained? Is it just as fair to the middle class, which I consider myself, to pay through the nose via taxes? ... And by the way, Steve, thank you for your service in the Corps!! (seriously). Without it, we wouldn't be doing this.
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Post by BlueMule on Nov 10, 2006 8:01:21 GMT -4
By the way... I didn't feel that 40%. Unless you're paying tuition, you didn't either. O'Malley will see to it that you do now, whether you're in school or not. Maybe I'm hardheaded. I see it this way...
I turn on a light, the meter's running, I pay for it. I turn it off, no running meter, no pay.
I don't turn on the light and leave it on. I don't go to Steve and say, "Hey man.. you gotta pay for that light that's on even though you had nothing to do with its being turned on or off."
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Post by jmh on Nov 10, 2006 8:10:15 GMT -4
Why do we need two parties? Why can't people vote for an individual without party affiliation? If there was only one party people couldn't vote for dems or rep like their parents told them to. They would actually have to research the canidates beliefs and get to know them. Instead they latch on to some opinion that dems are cowards and rep are jesus freaks. I hear the fastest growing party is ind. because they don't want to be affilated with either party. So why not just do away with them now.
Just a thought, Thanks to all veterans out there
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Post by bchevy on Nov 10, 2006 8:12:45 GMT -4
Yay! Jesus loses! The creepy repubs that base everything on the equivalent of the Easter Bunny have gotten their ass handed to them by people that can think beyond gods and devils. Religious fanatics are all the same. Stupid and unreasonable. Whether they are muslims, christians or jews, they are all just dilusional. Republican are just crazy jesus freaks no different than the muslims. Yay for change and yay for reasonable thought. Coming from a radical Dem. The problem in a nutshell Republican are just crazy jesus freaks no different than the muslims. That's just Idiotic, and no, I'm not a Republican Partisan politics, and party lines is what's killing this country- nothing else. Putting a do nothing rep. mayor in the state house will have no effect on Washington, or the war. bit it will affect us. stand by!
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Post by bchevy on Nov 10, 2006 8:15:42 GMT -4
Not to mention, they have no-one qualified to run. And they know that! That won't stop them, look who they put up the last 2 elections, King Flip-Flop & a self confessed war Criminal, makes me embarrased to be a Dem. Look out for Hillary Bill.
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Post by bchevy on Nov 10, 2006 8:18:46 GMT -4
Stevey, How about you list the things O'Malley did for Baltimore.. 1) Made it NOT the Murder Capital (Now it's only a murder a day) 2) That's It . Don't forget, he cooked the books on crime, added catagories of crimes to take away from "murders". fact.
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Post by BlueMule on Nov 10, 2006 8:19:14 GMT -4
I didn't vote along party lines and pretty happy with the way things turned out on the shore.
No Easter bunny here... No bible thumpin' here... I don't face Mecca a few times a day. Sorry to bust the bubble.
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Post by Steve on Nov 10, 2006 9:38:41 GMT -4
"Not kidding at all. I don't recall seeing anywhere that State Universities are solely for the middle class. Aren't they for everyone? How are the State Universities to maintain themselves?.... It will have to come from state coffers that are not a bottomless bucket..."
Is it just as fair to the middle class, which I consider myself, to pay through the nose via taxes?
... And by the way, Steve, thank you for your service in the Corps!! (seriously). Without it, we wouldn't be doing this."
Good points. Thanks for a reasonable debate. It struck nerve with me since we now have an 8 month old - a tuition increase will eventually hurt me. The questions are - what are the responsibilities of government, and what should it provide for the citizens? You're correct that it's expensive to operate a good university and tuition alone doesn't cover it, so why hit a family with a big jump in expenses. Imagine the conversations in those families. It could have been managed better.
And you're welcome for the service.
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Post by BlueMule on Nov 10, 2006 10:44:29 GMT -4
The government should provide the service but those that use it should also kick in.
I have a son at Salisbury as we 'speak'. The tuition is murder. So is off campus housing. No complaints here. My plan has been for the boy to go to college all along. Investing hear and there has made that possible. The 40% was handled, no problem. You just have to be ready for anything these days. Also the kid has had a righteous work ethic since high school. His plan was to do his '101s' at AACC and then move up at the right time. He did just that. In the meantime, he was a grunt at Hertz up at the airport. He saved a bunch during those two years, while having his responsibilities such as car, cell, FUN etc. all the while keeping things on an even keel. (d**n I wish I could have done that growing up). Now he's moved on up. Full time load at school with your standard student loan that will be paid off by me. He also knows that there's a caveat. No degree, he pays (it's his loan and he has the bucks to coverthe payment if need be). He gets the degree, I pay.
You know the drill... and I don't want to preach but if you haven't yet, see a guy about investments that you can handle. Gat a plan going for your child. Nothing big but a plan none the less. When the time comes, you and your kid will be ready.
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Post by BlueMule on Nov 10, 2006 10:58:15 GMT -4
Also... Stay on top of what's going on with the child's education. When the time comes, there will be the drive where the kids are writing to local business for grants. Make sure they jump on that like a big dog. It's free money, just for the asking and a little effort by the student.
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Post by ljp on Nov 10, 2006 15:02:48 GMT -4
Wow where do I begin?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yay! Jesus loses! The creepy repubs that base everything on the equivalent of the Easter Bunny have gotten their ass handed to them by people that can think beyond gods and devils. Religious fanatics are all the same. Stupid and unreasonable. Whether they are muslims, christians or jews, they are all just dilusional. Republican are just crazy jesus freaks no different than the muslims. Yay for change and yay for reasonable thought. ----------------------- ***Are you suggesting that if you are Republican you are a Jesus freak and or a terrorist?? Are you suggesting that voters voted in this election based upon religious beliefs? I am Rep and I am a Christian, I don't believe in blowing things up but I do believe in the sanctity of family and providing a future for the next generation. Does this make me "Stupid and unreasonable"?? Little things can actually offend me on this site, but I gotta tell ya' I am offended.
***I voted in this election based on party beliefs because I don't really think either candidates' goals were all that different. The betterment for all MD citizens. I voted with my party because of the below.
--------------------------------------------- By the way... I didn't feel that 40%. Unless you're paying tuition, you didn't either. O'Malley will see to it that you do now, whether you're in school or not. Maybe I'm hardheaded. I see it this way...
I turn on a light, the meter's running, I pay for it. I turn it off, no running meter, no pay.
I don't turn on the light and leave it on. I don't go to Steve and say, "Hey man.. you gotta pay for that light that's on even though you had nothing to do with its being turned on or off."
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***this above is why I voted with my party, typically Dems vote based on liberal beliefs and on a platform of 'everything for everyone' . Dems are the reason that my family pays more than 48% of our income to Uncle Sam every year to pay for programs that we will never be able to take advantage of. Does this make me a Jesus Freak or someone trying to hold onto my own? or better yet dillusional?
puhlease.
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Post by Mike on Nov 10, 2006 15:20:23 GMT -4
my toes itch
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Post by BlueMule on Nov 10, 2006 16:43:16 GMT -4
Just a dumb thought... What was it that Popeye Doyle said in the French Connection? "Have you ever picked your toes in Poughkeepsie?" ;D
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Post by Mike on Nov 10, 2006 16:51:58 GMT -4
<crickets chirping>
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Post by ljp on Nov 11, 2006 15:55:39 GMT -4
GBM I told you to get that itch checked out....
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Post by Frank on Nov 13, 2006 11:47:28 GMT -4
Well, the elections are over, and only the signs remain! Why can't they collect their signs as diligently as they put them up. Some get collected, some will rot! I bet if they were fined for each sign remailing after 7 days from the election, they would all be gone.
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Post by guest on Nov 13, 2006 13:00:08 GMT -4
To Frank....they are fined...after 14 ddays every sign not picked up the candidate will be fied per left sign.
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Post by Frank on Nov 13, 2006 15:35:21 GMT -4
Thats good to know. I've seen signs stay around for months in the past. I understand the abundance at election time, but they really take away from the landscape.
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