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Post by kicruiser on Nov 16, 2006 14:46:45 GMT -4
Since so many negative things are written about the police, I thought I would add a positive thread. Yesterday, 11-15-06, I was pulled over heading eastbound just over the Bay Bridge by a MTA police officer. Evidently, he ran my tag and it came back from the MVA expired. I was driving a van with no windows and I can only assume that is why (9-11, terrorist issues). I wasn't speeding or doing anything else wrong. Of course, it scared me to death. I had the proper registration and the proper sticker on my truck. It seems the MVA has some computer glitch showing my truck tags expired. Haven't reached them yet, but I will. What I am trying to say is that I was treated with the utmost respect by the officer (can't read name but his Pin No. is 0757). He even told me to be very careful pulling back into the traffic. I just wanted everyone to know that there a lot of good police officers on the job and by doing random license plate checks, he is helping to keep anyone trying to do us harm at bay.
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Post by jake on Nov 16, 2006 16:09:33 GMT -4
Excuse me, since when is it legal for the police to randomly pull someone over for a license plate check??
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Post by baycitydan on Nov 16, 2006 16:30:54 GMT -4
I think that they can pull you over for expired tags. If it's a blatent offense that they can see before they pull you over, it's fair game. At least it was an MTA cop. They are usually good people. If it were a "glorified meter maid" aka State Trooper, you would have gotten a ticket for SOMETHING. That's all that they do is give tickets and harass people from what I can see.
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Post by Mike on Nov 16, 2006 16:49:24 GMT -4
Hey be nice to State Troopers, if it weren't for them the county would be over run with criminals. We all know county police are worthless as tits on a boar hog.
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Post by baycitydan on Nov 16, 2006 16:56:25 GMT -4
The county mounties are who comes to your door when you need help. The Troopers pull you over and are nothing but tools for the greedy fatcats raking in citation money. There aren't enough county cops and lately it seems, from what I have read here anyway, that they have taken to being ticket giving meter maids a bit too, but hopefully that will change with the new sheriff. It's obvious that they don't want to be harassing residents because they know that's the Troopers job to hide under bridges and in parking lots, etc. Hey be nice to State Troopers, if it weren't for them the county would be over run with criminals. We all know county police are worthless as tits on a boar hog.
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Post by Mike on Nov 16, 2006 17:04:47 GMT -4
Do the crime pay the fine.
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Post by bchevy on Nov 16, 2006 19:53:29 GMT -4
Since so many negative things are written about the police, I thought I would add a positive thread. Yesterday, 11-15-06, I was pulled over heading eastbound just over the Bay Bridge by a MTA police officer. Evidently, he ran my tag and it came back from the MVA expired. I was driving a van with no windows and I can only assume that is why (9-11, terrorist issues). I wasn't speeding or doing anything else wrong. Of course, it scared me to death. I had the proper registration and the proper sticker on my truck. It seems the MVA has some computer glitch showing my truck tags expired. Haven't reached them yet, but I will. What I am trying to say is that I was treated with the utmost respect by the officer (can't read name but his Pin No. is 0757). He even told me to be very careful pulling back into the traffic. I just wanted everyone to know that there a lot of good police officers on the job and by doing random license plate checks, he is helping to keep anyone trying to do us harm at bay. Since so many negative things are written about the police, I thought I would add a positive thread. Yesterday, 11-15-06, I was pulled over heading eastbound just over the Bay Bridge by a MTA police officer. Evidently, he ran my tag and it came back from the MVA expired. I seriousley DOUBT this officer's story, If you have the correct stickers on your tag, he has NO reason to run your tag. I smell a rat, and I suspect that, that reason was the best he could come up with at the timeI was driving a van with no windows and I can only assume that is why (9-11, terrorist issues). Every time we give up a little in the name of "terrorist issues" THE TERRORISTS WIN ANOTHER ONE!I wasn't speeding or doing anything else wrong. Of course, it scared me to death. Again, I smell a rat.I had the proper registration and the proper sticker on my truck. Again, I smell a rat.It seems the MVA has some computer glitch showing my truck tags expired. Haven't reached them yet, but I will. I still doubt this story, I would have gone STRAIGHT to the MVA and check this out.What I am trying to say is that I was treated with the utmost respect by the officer (can't read name but his Pin No. is 0757). He even told me to be very careful pulling back into the traffic. You SHOULD be treated with the utmost respect by ANY officer of the law, until you give enough reason to eat some blacktop.I just wanted everyone to know that there a lot of good police officers on the job and by doing random license plate checks, he is helping to keep anyone trying to do us harm at bay. Yes, there are a LOT of fine officers out there, and I appreciate & respect the job they do. I say the jury is still out on this guy, and if he's doing "random license plate checks" He's invading my privacy for no good reason. and if it's in the name of fighting terrorism- THE TERRORISTS WIN AGAIN.MY 2 CENTS.
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Post by bchevy on Nov 16, 2006 19:54:42 GMT -4
BTW Cool Username! I should have thought of it!
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Post by kicruiser on Nov 16, 2006 21:28:43 GMT -4
First of all, thanks bchevy for the compliment on my username - i like it. I know you are a car person by reading your threads - I am a female boat person.
Second, after reading responses to my thread in regard to the MTA police, I am having second thoughts about being positive. I think you all have a valid point. What I didn't say in my previous thread was that he issued me a "warning" - FOR WHAT?? At first I thought my sticker was missing but when I got home I checked and it was there, expiring April 2007, just as my registration said. It was a slap on the hand when I didn't even do anything wrong, even though no points or fines are attached to it. If you keep an open mind on this forum, you can learn a lot, I did today.
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Post by Transplant on Nov 17, 2006 1:35:06 GMT -4
Knowing a little about the law its a cop job to run tags on vehicles even if the vehicle looks legit. As a former cop I would run about 50 to 100 tags a shift just to find something to get into. You would be surprised how many times Ive came across a vehicle with what appears to be no problems to the eye but low and behold the tags are to another vehicle or the vehicle is listed as stolen. For all the people who live on this side of the bridge you think your safe because you don't see the low life's from PG county, Baltimore city and further south on the eastern shore. Or you never had to deal with them. They also use route 50 for all sorts of illegal activity. Remember New York, Pennsylvania and even Delaware are close by. Take a good look at some of the people you pass by on the road and you to can pick out some of the most suspicious people but then again it would be profiling and the FBI and NAACP hate that. Just my observation. Remember if you get pulled over don't say anything stupid and be nice you might walk away with a verbal warning or written beats paying a fine or going to court. On the remark above about county Deputies and Troopers the money paid in fines doesn't directly go back to the county or barracks it goes to the state general fund. Then the money is broken down to all sorts of things within the state. Schools, parks and rec, counties and so on.
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Post by Pete Richter on Nov 17, 2006 3:50:40 GMT -4
True story on video 11/07/06..........Three home boys left work in the hood, and drove 1 & 1/2 miles to McDonald's in Balto. Co. for food. Balto. Co. ran the tag, and got a hit for a stolen car. The officer followed the boys back into the city. As the boys pulled onto the employee parking lot the blue lights went on, and they were lit up. The officer at gun point with his finger on the trigger ordered the brothers out of their car into the pouring rain, and made to lye face down in the water, under the threat of death. When the troops arrived the home boys were cuffed. While cuffed they were kicked, and their faces were smashed into the blacktop. Then came the tough guy foul language abuse. Further investigation revealed that the car was not stolen in the first place, and the home boys had clean records. The cop is not at fault for the stop, but the information from radio was wrong. After the law suit the home boys will have enough money to move it on up, and get a piece of the pie. This is not an isolated incident of bad information. It happens all the time. Baltimore City has been illegally arresting 1,000 people a month for the last ten years. A major class action law suit filed by the ACLU, and others, could bankrupt the city.....Pete Richter
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Post by kicruiser on Nov 17, 2006 17:57:15 GMT -4
I finally reached the MVA and my registration WAS showing expired. She said "someone" failed to update the computer. It is taken care of now. I still don't understand the warning ticket - if the police officer that responded to this thread could advise me why that happened, I sure would appreciate it. I did absolutely nothing wrong. Thanks.
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Post by STINK on Nov 17, 2006 21:14:19 GMT -4
kicruiser tries to put a positive message on the board and bchevy dumps his half-empty-glass all over her.
Pulling people over for tag violations is legal. Yes the officer may have been "fishing", but that is what they do. He might have noticed something about the windows or just run the tag as routine. COPS DO THIS, IT'S WHAT THEY ARE TRAINED TO DO.
The warning is just a warning and no big deal. Your tag did show as expired.
I see this thread as someone nice and thankful for decent treatment trying to project some glass-is-half-full karma on us and the bchevy gang assaults another harmless victim.
bchevy, shut your 2cents up. She was just wanting to change the slant on this board - motivated by negative posts like yours.
bchevy, I smell a rat too.
Dearest yours,
STINK
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Post by falgar25 on Nov 18, 2006 10:09:18 GMT -4
Knowing a little about the law its a cop job to run tags on vehicles even if the vehicle looks legit. As a former cop I would run about 50 to 100 tags a shift just to find something to get into. Nothing personal, but this attitude scares the hell out of me! What you are describing is an indiscriminate investigation of a person for absolutely no reason. The action that prompted this investigation: legally travelling on a public highway. It is just this kind of thing that our constitution was designed to protect us against. I don't want someone knocking on my door without reason, I don't want someone stopping me for no reason as I walk down the street, and I don't want someone running my tags for no reason. What happens when an officer gets frustrated that after 50 or 100 tags he still hasn't found "something to get into?" Is the bar lowered at that point? Is the next car the "lucky" winner of a traffic stop? If there is some type of alert out that describes a vehilcle like the one I'm driving and in the same area, OK. If not, leave me the hell alone! The other night a car pulled into the right turn lane and I continued by in the driving lane. The car quickly pulled in behind me and started following me. There was no way I was going to lead him to my house! I took him around two blocks before he decided to go his own way. Should I have been afraid that some bad guy was following me? Or, maybe I should be pissed: this was an unmarked cop. If I'm doing something illegal, pull me over; otherwise, don't harass me, leave me the hell alone!
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Post by shadow1 on Nov 18, 2006 10:56:57 GMT -4
Stink, You're right, BChevy blew it on this one. As you said KICruiser was trying to post a positive thread about the officer, and what happens is some "insinuations" by a few wants to put a negative spin on it. The cop did his job, the MVA didn't. Though "fishing" by the police can be an inconvenience, it is also a tool to get alot of the crap off the street. How many traffic stops, probably many of them "fishing", result in legitimate arrests for more than traffic violations. Many are drug arrests that if I recall have been a major concern in many of these threads. You can't have it both ways.
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Post by bchevy on Nov 18, 2006 23:36:42 GMT -4
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Post by shadow1 on Nov 19, 2006 21:43:32 GMT -4
BChevy Yeah, I read the thread to that link. Am I suppose to agree or disagree with their comments ? What was your point? I do agree that the police should have a legitimate reason for pulling over vehicles, even if it's a minor violation such as vehicle equipment (i.e., headlight out, illegal window tint, etc) or other similiar violations. I got pulled over in DC for use of my cellphone while driving without handsfree capability. The cop asked if the vehicle was mine before looking at my registration. It was an agency other than DC Metropolitan Police, and was obvious they were "fishing", probably for stolen cars. They could care less whether they gave me a ticket for the phone violation since that agency isn't obligated to bring revenue to the city. They ran a check on my vehicle than let me go without a ticket for using the phone. I wasn't happy with the inconvenience, but, I know the cellphone law in DC, and made the decision to violate it giving them the opportunity to make the stop. Don't give them any opportunity and the chances are it won't happen to you.
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Post by bchevy on Nov 20, 2006 7:09:34 GMT -4
That other thread IS my point, how far is OK?
YOU gave an obvious reason to get pulled over, a cell phone stuck to your ear while driving where it's illegal to do so.
kicruiser gave NO reason, she had good stickers on her tag and an up tp date registration in her truck.
And what was the WARNING FOR? She had her paperwork.
The only line I blew was MVA making a goof, I SHOULD have known better.
Fishing by the police in this manner isn't acceptable in my book UNLESS the vehicle having it's tag ran matches a vehicle ID'd in a crime. Hers did not.
For the record, I wasn't the 1st in this thread to question the tactics used, and after kicruiser saw nother side even she had questions. I meant NO negative slant, JUST ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW.
GET USED TO IT, OR GET LOST.
ALSO- Your line about: "Don't give them any opportunity and the chances are it won't happen to you." Is almost EXACTLY what I tell people, lights out, no seatbelts on, or a crack in the windshield, is an open invitation to get pulled over.
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Post by bchevy on Nov 20, 2006 7:12:27 GMT -4
Knowing a little about the law its a cop job to run tags on vehicles even if the vehicle looks legit. As a former cop I would run about 50 to 100 tags a shift just to find something to get into. That's almost a shame. There's plenty of real crimes out there with real criminals, who hurt real people. Flame away.......
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Post by gwbushdumb on Nov 20, 2006 9:17:01 GMT -4
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Post by shadow1 on Nov 20, 2006 10:08:12 GMT -4
BChevy You seem to get your feelings hurt easy GET USED TO IT, OR GET LOST. Flame away....... That's the way you respond when someone doesn't agree with something you say.... Look, we can still be friends, but there seems to be some false assumptions without having all the facts. Maybe KICruiser can expand a little on exactly what the cop said to her? I'll still "respect your point of view".
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Post by bchevy on Nov 20, 2006 15:39:36 GMT -4
Shadow, my feelings really don't get hurt easliy, and I get over things real quick. Unlike a lot of others here. If I carried grudges like most people I wouldn't be able to walk for all the chips on my shoulder.
the "get used to it line" was aimed at STINK and not you, sorry for the broad shot.
Flame away is just what GWB did, I knew someone would. I like hearing BOTH sides, and really like putting my 2 cents out there. some people wont like what I say no matter what. Hopefully they will be the 1st ones to have their homes searched when cops fishing homes becomes OK too.
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Post by Mike on Nov 20, 2006 15:45:05 GMT -4
yeah people hold grudges and give me -15 Karma
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Post by shadow1 on Nov 20, 2006 16:52:46 GMT -4
Hey guys it's all good If we all had the same opinion, would be some boring discussion and I wouldn't waste my time.
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Post by bchevy on Nov 20, 2006 20:15:21 GMT -4
Then there's the one's who gave me a gang, and get upset when "we" post.....
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