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Post by Mike on Nov 26, 2008 17:07:09 GMT -4
In response to the second fatal collision in about three months that involved a Maryland State Police officer from the Easton barrack, the superintendent issued an order Saturday that reiterated MSP's emergency driving policy.
The policy states that troopers may not speed when responding to calls unless a supervisor authorizes a Code 1 response for a life-threatening situation. In a Code 2, or non-life-threatening response, troopers may not speed but can use lights and sirens to clear traffic.
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Thats right kids, #77 will be your best friend. Make sure you get the tag number of the marked or unmarked unit. Tag number for marked units are "Letter-Number", example S-12, I-14, J-9.
Use this tag number when reporting a speeding Trooper.
All calls can remain anonymous.
If you see anything other than a marked S unit driving fast, I would advise calling, as S is Centreville Barrack.
Stay safe kids.
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Post by ouch on Nov 26, 2008 17:09:42 GMT -4
In response to the second fatal collision in about three months that involved a Maryland State Police officer from the Easton barrack, the superintendent issued an order Saturday that reiterated MSP's emergency driving policy. The policy states that troopers may not speed when responding to calls unless a supervisor authorizes a Code 1 response for a life-threatening situation. In a Code 2, or non-life-threatening response, troopers may not speed but can use lights and sirens to clear traffic. -- Thats right kids, #77 will be your best friend. Make sure you get the tag number of the marked or unmarked unit. Tag number for marked units are "Letter-Number", example S-12, I-14, J-9. Use this tag number when reporting a speeding Trooper. All calls can remain anonymous. If you see anything other than a marked S unit driving fast, I would advise calling, as S is Centreville Barrack. Stay safe kids. Believe that when I see it ;-). Support the troopers!
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Post by emsguru on Nov 26, 2008 17:10:45 GMT -4
Not saying they should speed. But sometimes you'll see different Letters(barracks) in our area with their lights on speeding because the states swat team is made of troopers all over the state. You could have a hostage situation on the island with troopers as far as western MD coming to gear up and kick down doors.
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Post by Mike on Nov 26, 2008 18:34:20 GMT -4
Emsguru -- that is correct sir.
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Post by bchevy on Nov 26, 2008 20:57:09 GMT -4
5:15 am this morning, State trooper NB on rte 8, caught the light on the south end of the 50 overpass (like I do every morning) no problem for him, he pops his roof lights on and runs the light, only to catch the next one....... Nice job loser.
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Post by bchevy on Nov 26, 2008 20:59:00 GMT -4
Oh yeah, and the #77, go ahead and try it near the bay bridge,
It USED to get you the bridge police, somtimes the Annapolis MSP barracks would get it.
Try it now, guess what! YOU GET A RECORDING WITH A NEW NUMBER TO DIAL!!!
I think this was due the the brain fart idea of closing the Annapolis MSP Barracks.
Don't you think they could fix that?
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Post by falgar25 on Nov 26, 2008 21:43:05 GMT -4
7AM this morning, WB on the Bay Bridge. Trooper traveling 60+mph. No lights, no siren, no emergency (I was with him until he pulled into the parking lot 30+miles ahead)
Haven't decided if I should thank whoever that I didn't die in a terrible, fiery crash from exceeding the maximum safe speed of 45 mph on the bridge, or if I should flex my car's warranty and get my speedometer re-calibrated since it must be incredibly inaccurate.
Hey, I have no complaints. 45 mph is ridiculous, "work zone" is ridiculous, and by traveling at a reasonable speed, the trooper didn't cause a backup. Just don't try to tell me that the troopers, or most of the cars on the road, only exceed the posted limit when responding to an emergency call.
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Post by RobMoore on Nov 26, 2008 22:54:28 GMT -4
I have no problem with them going 80-90mph everywhere they drive (which the vast majority of MSP marked cruisers I see do), so long as the rest of us are allowed to do it without receiving a $500 ticket.
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Post by speedergurl68 on Nov 27, 2008 6:42:41 GMT -4
I have no problem with them going 80-90mph everywhere they drive (which the vast majority of MSP marked cruisers I see do), so long as the rest of us are allowed to do it without receiving a $500 ticket. What he said.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2008 10:38:15 GMT -4
If all police cruisers were going down the road at the speed limit, rolling roadblocks would occur massively behind them. Which in turn would cause the impatient and aggressive driver in the pack to be a safety threat to the other drivers around him.
If all the police cruisers patrolling the roads always did the speed limit, they would never catch any speeders or aggressive drivers (check first comment). Coming up behind drivers and shadowing them is a good road tactic to catch offenders.
As for the 40-45 mph speed limit on the bay bridge.....it is a joke. That whole scenario of cars doing 40, cars doing 65-70 as well as trucks is a recipe for the next disaster. Personally, I avoid driving on the 2 way traffic on the bridge when it is set up as much as possible.
If people want to do their part with the excessive speeders and aggressive drivers, call an report the work trucks and semi's that are blasting down the road.
What good will come from reporting police officers that are speeding. What about the other emergency vehicles that are speeding without lights on. I see ambulances and paramedic vehicles speeding on the bridge all the time. Should they be reported? I don't' think so.
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Post by GPSoff55days on Nov 27, 2008 10:50:03 GMT -4
Is the posted work area speed limit on the bridge only for when someone is actively working on it or do they expect people to drive that slow all the time?
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Post by cheapshotartist on Nov 27, 2008 11:24:47 GMT -4
As I was just told, be careful what you ask for. If the Troopers start ticketing all of us that go over 55, we all would be out a drivers license or higher insurance at the least!
I think the Troopers are spread so thin here on the shore that when they have to go to an accident, they are usally a long way aways from it which may be the case with the accident in Vienna. I think GV Mike worked for the State Police and can attest to the few Troopers out there to handle calls.
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Post by falgar25 on Nov 27, 2008 11:39:05 GMT -4
When I looked this up before, I found a decision that held that the work-zone speed limit is enforceable even if no work is going on.
I also found MD regulations that stated if the work was temporary, if there was no work overnight for instance, the work-zone signs should be covered.
There was no work happening on the bridge in the summer and there is no work happening on the bridge during daylight hours yet the work-zone signs are still visible. I don't know if I've seen anyone obeying the work-zone speed limit. Guess which violation is more likely to earn a citation.
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Post by emsguru on Nov 27, 2008 11:43:17 GMT -4
As I was just told, be careful what you ask for. If the Troopers start ticketing all of us that go over 55, we all would be out a drivers license or higher insurance at the least! I think the Troopers are spread so thin here on the shore that when they have to go to an accident, they are usally a long way aways from it which may be the case with the accident in Vienna. I think GV Mike worked for the State Police and can attest to the few Troopers out there to handle calls. I would prefer that the state bust their butt to get to the accident scene because i do not like using my ambulance for traffic control when i'm working out of it. Nothing worse than working on a patient who is lying in the fast lane and there are cars and trucks barrelling down on you. Its nice to have the police who park their vehicles a little ways back to deflect any vehicles who don't pay attention.
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Post by bchevy on Nov 27, 2008 13:47:49 GMT -4
As I was just told, be careful what you ask for. If the Troopers start ticketing all of us that go over 55, we all would be out a drivers license or higher insurance at the least! I think the Troopers are spread so thin here on the shore that when they have to go to an accident, they are usally a long way aways from it which may be the case with the accident in Vienna. I think GV Mike worked for the State Police and can attest to the few Troopers out there to handle calls. And I want all of you to get there SAFELY. Speeding through traffic, or across the bridge as one of out bridge's "finest" did yesterday in the height of evening rush hour. just about PUSHING cars out of his way on the 2 lane EB span. Don't cause a wreck going to your call, that's all. I would prefer that the state bust their butt to get to the accident scene because i do not like using my ambulance for traffic control when i'm working out of it. Nothing worse than working on a patient who is lying in the fast lane and there are cars and trucks barrelling down on you. Its nice to have the police who park their vehicles a little ways back to deflect any vehicles who don't pay attention.
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Post by Pete Richter on Nov 28, 2008 4:17:20 GMT -4
Policy does not supersede the law, and the law clearly states when the cops can exceed the posted speed limit. The problem with the law is that it is not enforced with justice, and too few cops champion justice for the citizen. A well known judge in Balto. would let the pretty woman off, and fine the rest of the citizens for the same violation. How did the old time cop solve this injustice? Very simple solution. You set your tickets so the pretty woman is called up first. After she is dismissed the cops testimony for the rest of his tickets would be, " Your Honor this ticket was issued under the same circumstances as the first case". Problem solved.
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Post by RobMoore on Nov 28, 2008 7:53:59 GMT -4
There is a solution to that "rolling roadblock problem". If the vast majority of people out there drive 65-70 in a 55 zone, make the limit 70mph. Raise the limits and enforce the "slower traffic keep right", and you'll see traffic in Maryland smooth out quite a bit.
Speeders don't look at the speed limit and decide to go 10 over just to be rebels. If there were no limit, they would go the speed they felt most comfortable with, which would probably be 15-20 over what is posted. They only go 10 over because most times they can get away with that if they get caught. Maryland is voting with its right foot. The state should listen.
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Post by falgar25 on Nov 28, 2008 8:14:32 GMT -4
There is a solution to that "rolling roadblock problem". If the vast majority of people out there drive 65-70 in a 55 zone, make the limit 70mph. Raise the limits and enforce the "slower traffic keep right", and you'll see traffic in Maryland smooth out quite a bit. Speeders don't look at the speed limit and decide to go 10 over just to be rebels. If there were no limit, they would go the speed they felt most comfortable with, which would probably be 15-20 over what is posted. They only go 10 over because most times they can get away with that if they get caught. Maryland is voting with its right foot. The state should listen. I can agree with that 100%
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Post by guest on Nov 28, 2008 8:57:55 GMT -4
Policy does not supersede the law, and the law clearly states when the cops can exceed the posted speed limit. The problem with the law is that it is not enforced with justice, and too few cops champion justice for the citizen. A well known judge in Balto. would let the pretty woman off, and fine the rest of the citizens for the same violation. How did the old time cop solve this injustice? Very simple solution. You set your tickets so the pretty woman is called up first. After she is dismissed the cops testimony for the rest of his tickets would be, " Your Honor this ticket was issued under the same circumstances as the first case". Problem solved. That may have been the case years ago in Baltimore City when the police and judges were known to be "friendly" with the lady's but not now. Now for the most part, judges and officers look at each individual record and the case is decided accordingly. I have seen women in court with the same speed tickets get totally different sentences because of their driving records. Times have changed since the horse and buggy days. ;D
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Post by bluecrabber on Nov 28, 2008 12:00:43 GMT -4
If all police cruisers were going down the road at the speed limit, rolling roadblocks would occur massively behind them. Which in turn would cause the impatient and aggressive driver in the pack to be a safety threat to the other drivers around him. . Right on with this post.. When I used to commute across the bridge daily I could always tell when a cruiser was pacing the traffic ahead.. you would see maniacs jumping from lane to lane trying to get around the rolling roadblock until they saw what was causing it. The police are doing a good job. It is fine with me if a police cruiser passes me in the left lane going whatever speed. He/she is not creating a traffic hazard, and may actually catch up with an aggressive driver.. plus, remember that many of them have vascar units that enable them to measure the speed of traffic going the other way. Traffic volume for the most part sets the safe speed. It is the obey the law at all costs self-appointed speed limit enforcers riding along in the left lane at 55 mph that are the hazard. If you don't want to drive at 70 with the rest of the rush hour traffic, move over to the right lane and get out of the way. Best regards, BC
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Post by foofighter on Nov 28, 2008 18:45:23 GMT -4
In Europe it is routine that the police travel BELOW the speed limit. Drive on the M1 or M4 and you'll see what I mean. I wont reveal too much but trust me, this is the common method of policing. Set a good example and if someone is speeding they'll catch them easier and quicker by going slower than traffic.
PG county police are by far the worst offenders. Every drive on RT 50 east bound around 3pm (shift change)? yea, they're late for work just like the rest of us, trying not to get fired. I've seen 90-100 plus in the HOV lane routinely. -DG
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Post by cheapshotartist on Nov 29, 2008 10:27:13 GMT -4
I have to agree, the agressive drivers, the one who ride your bumper and cut you off, don't signal when they turn, they are the ones who need the tickets. Driving over the limit doesn't seem to be the problem to me, it's these other people that "drive" me crazy!
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Post by Pete Richter on Dec 1, 2008 15:53:44 GMT -4
To stop the carnage on our highways three things are necessary. 1- All traffic must drive at the same speed. 2- All traffic must follow at a safe distance. 3- Law enforcement must set the example by obeying the traffic laws.
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Post by emsguru on Dec 1, 2008 18:27:34 GMT -4
anyone else think its ironic that rt 8 is a 2 lane road with 50 mph limit. But rt 50 which is a six lane road is only 5 mph more? If 55 is the safe speed on a 6 lane road then shouldn't a 2 lane road be more like 30 35 by the law maker standards?
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Post by RobMoore on Dec 1, 2008 18:52:50 GMT -4
All traffic at the same speed is a recipe for congestion. We don't have "carnage" on our highways.
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