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Post by native on Feb 19, 2006 3:25:46 GMT -4
>:(I wish there was a way to stop all of this crap and when i say crap i really mean s**t from invading this beautiful historical island. I am so sick of seeing rich whining a** people from the other side of the bridge move their ignorant a**'s to this side of the shore and b**tch and complain like they know what they are talking about. Do they even know that this island was the first settlement in Maryland founded by John Smith in 1603 and that indian caves and cemetaries from 1700-1800 still exist (no i'm not talking about Stevensville cemetary just in case the recently arrived are reading). It just makes me want to throw up everytime i see, read, or hear about some new development or expensive a** business going up on the beaches and fields that this beautiful island is made up of. All of you that have recently moved over here from the western shore see this place as: "hmmmm well i've got a lot of money that i'm not really sure what to do with so i guess i'll move my spoiled rotten little family over on the eastern shore where it is still nice. Then i might as well invade all of the locals favorite places (restaurants, beaches, bars, sunsets, etc.) while wearing my corny expensive suit and act like i'm king s**t on turd island 8-)thinking that I'm actually impressing someone and build a freakin house right in the middle of an historic site so i can ruin the eastern shore just like the western shore." And then they feel all better. Oh yeah and the new LATIN MARKET going up across from Bakers Liquor is real nice also; can we say Montgomery County or how about Glen Burnie. I don't like it and never will because i am one of the few that actually appreciates this island for what it was and somewhat still is, not what it is becoming. ;D
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Post by Peter W on Feb 19, 2006 14:17:04 GMT -4
Native, Look around I have been here for over 10 years and have seen many businesses close up for Lack of business. The area needs an influx of money. The schools are over crowded the roads need redoing. Get rid of the trailer parks and the junk car lots. What about the junk for sales before exit 41E thats always on the side of the road. We need this project for the area to grow. Without it land prices drop home values drop and the area we all love goes the hell.We need controlled growth.This project will give us bigger tax base to draw from,thus keeping our taxes down and property values up. We need new schools, hospitals,restaurant's. Without growth we wont have that. Look around before 50 went in yes it was great but now things have changed. We need controlled growth and nice clean developments,not the junk that we have now.Just my 2 cents
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Post by native on Feb 19, 2006 15:38:42 GMT -4
Look around huh. I do more looking around on this island than anyone you know, I can promise you that. The reason businesses close up is because of crap food, high prices, and lack of signs advertising either the business itself or which exit to take to get to it. I haven't seen any businesses go down if they are actually worth a d*mn. The ones that I see going out of business the most are the ones in the outlets that are overpriced and hard to get to because of lack of signs/advertising such as Gravity Lounge. Did you ever see their menu; Ostrich and Frog Legs for $25 - $40 and burgers for $8, are you kidding me, we live on an Island not some foreign country where that is a delicacy or New York City. Certain businesses and projects that are planned to be built are beneficial such as the Medical Center, but why do people insisit on condos, hotels, and huge industry style businesses. These things are not helping Kent Island, they are crowding Kent Island and making it a city. I am all for making this Island great but not for the sake of losing what it is valued for. The schools are overcrowded because Kent Island is overcrowded and the things that people want to bring to KI. If it wasn't for the increase of housing developments which equals the increase of residents then we wouldn't have an extrememly overpopulated school system. This results in putting wings on schools, building brand new schools which comes straight out of the tax payers pocket because of 50 different housing developments where all of the houses look just like the one next to it. We are becoming a commercialized city. Anywhere people live, roads are going to need to be redone. Thats something that tax money should be paying for, not to pay the cops on this island to pull over everyone doing 3 mph over the speed limit instead of taking care of the major drug problem that we have. We have one trailer park and one car lot, and yes I do agree something should be done to beautify that. Land and house prices will never drop, in fact its getting to the point where the only people that can afford a decent house on the Island are people that aren't even locals of the Island. Controlled slow growth I do agree on, but not the growth that I keep seeing like massive developments going up every other week. Theres my 4 cents
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Post by bchevy on Feb 19, 2006 18:53:13 GMT -4
Native, Look around I have been here for over 10 years and have seen many businesses close up for Lack of business. The area needs an influx of money. The schools are over crowded the roads need redoing. Get rid of the trailer parks and the junk car lots. What about the junk for sales before exit 41E thats always on the side of the road. We need this project for the area to grow. Without it land prices drop home values drop and the area we all love goes the hell.We need controlled growth.This project will give us bigger tax base to draw from,thus keeping our taxes down and property values up. We need new schools, hospitals,restaurant's. Without growth we wont have that. Look around before 50 went in yes it was great but now things have changed. We need controlled growth and nice clean developments,not the junk that we have now.Just my 2 cents I think you need to look around, Projects help NO ONE but the DEVELOPER, NO ONE! They make their money and run to do it again. they are NO help to the economy so don't pat yourself on the back. You're part of the problem, NOT part of the answer. I've been here since '88, and I'm still a transplant, you and the real estate agents ran me out of Annapolis where I was a 3rd generation born there and coulcn't afford the real estate. Developers and Real Estate Agents should be banned. Controlled growth is a PC term that really means Growth by who has the most money... Controlled Growth means I can do what I want with my property-IF- I have enough money to control, or CHANGE the rules to fit me. RE=Read what you wrote, if you stand behind that crap, you need to go back to Glen Burnie, or Montgomery County. The shore is one of the few places someone can still start out, (NOT close to the bridge) but if you guys have your way, NO ONE Startingout in their adult life will be able to BUY a home! Bigger tax base= More government WASTE
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Post by native on Feb 19, 2006 20:44:20 GMT -4
Thank you bchevy. Finally someone that truly understands. I fully agree with everything you say. By the way you wouldn't be part of the Kent Island Cruisers car club would you. If so what do you drive? Oh yeah check out my posts on K.Hovnanian about the 4 Seasons there are on page two
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Post by Peter W on Feb 19, 2006 21:57:32 GMT -4
Very well said, I agree with you 100%. Lets get rid of the trailor parks and junk on the side of the road with four sale signs on them. Controlled growth is important. I still think Four Seasons will bring more businesses to the island and start a clean up around here. What I hate is the small 10-20 home developments that look like crap. Yes the cops around here need a life and yes they should go after the drug dealers. I love the island and plan to retire here but only if it is cleaned up.They need to look at a 10-20 year plan and go from there. I wish Ramson was back he was one of the goods guys.Now is all you see is condo's for 1-2 million plus around here. Is it going to stop? I see prices going up 20% plus on the water and that scares me. Guess I will never own water front
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Post by bchevy on Feb 22, 2006 19:41:45 GMT -4
Thank you bchevy. Finally someone that truly understands. I fully agree with everything you say. By the way you wouldn't be part of the Kent Island Cruisers car club would you. If so what do you drive? Oh yeah check out my posts on K.Hovnanian about the 4 Seasons there are on page two Uh-Oh, Cover blown? I'm in there! Comeout to Rita's Ice on Tuesdays from 6pm til? when the weather is nice!
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Post by Alex on Feb 23, 2006 7:58:25 GMT -4
Guess we have one person that lives on the water? How is Narrows Pointe? Any problems this close to the water. Very nice development. Looks like it still needs some detailing though? I drove though a few times and the grounds needed some work?
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Post by bchevy on Feb 28, 2006 13:57:55 GMT -4
Very well said, I agree with you 100%. Lets get rid of the trailor parks and junk on the side of the road with four sale signs on them. Controlled growth is important. I still think Four Seasons will bring more businesses to the island and start a clean up around here. What I hate is the small 10-20 home developments that look like crap. Yes the cops around here need a life and yes they should go after the drug dealers. I love the island and plan to retire here but only if it is cleaned up.They need to look at a 10-20 year plan and go from there. I wish Ramson was back he was one of the goods guys.Now is all you see is condo's for 1-2 million plus around here. Is it going to stop? I see prices going up 20% plus on the water and that scares me. Guess I will never own water front Why do people have to move here, AND CHANGE EVERYTHING? I agree with the cops comments, and the condos, BUT leave the rest of it alone. Time will take care of that. It's what makes this island. If you all keep it up Kent Island will be no different than Glen burnie, Edgewater, or Bowie. I came here because I didn't want to go to those places. PLEASE dont turn Kent Island into those places The more you change Kent Island, the less Kent Island you will have! If you don't like the real estate prices, leave, DON'T pay it. if the sellers cant' get their stupid prices (jacked up by the real estate agents) the prices will come down. case in point: small rancher just sold in Bay City, on the CREEK, $920,000+ already too much, now they've added on to it, and steady throwing money at all sorts of other projects. I'd be embarrased to pay that much for that house, KNOWING it's not what I wanted, and would need $50k+ added into it.....
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Post by Peter on Feb 28, 2006 17:04:31 GMT -4
There is only so much water front. Prices will go up. Look around the average water from home in this area is 900 plus. Look @ some of the Town Home 1.4 mill plus. Annapolis is crazy. Even with the market getting killed the prices will go up maybe not 20% a year but I would guess 10% if you are on the water. It's coming, so face it. Now we need to make sure it's done right. No Junk.
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Post by bchevy on Mar 2, 2006 8:10:47 GMT -4
I've never been able to figure out the prices of townhomes (PC name for rowhouses) You don't own anything but a bunch af assembled building materials, no land to speak of (if any at all) and have to deal with "party walls" and grocery store style parking..... No thanks.
How in the world can townhomes compete with regular housing with land under it?
Answer: Real Estate Agents.
I used to build townhomes, Framed them up, walled them in, and trimmed them out. I wouldn't own one if you gave it to me. Well OK I would take it and sell it....
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Post by Alex on Mar 2, 2006 8:31:20 GMT -4
bchevy, Small minded to say the least! When you hit 60 plus you might want to think again. Some of the most expensive properties are high rises and ie: town homes. What's the big deal about having tons of property. I would rather not be a slave to it. I looked at Narrowspointe and oyster cove. The ones at the Narrowspoite are very large, oster cove is nice also. There you have a pool great view no grass to mow. Tennis courts. What more can you ask for. I bet you are the type that has to have a fence around your property just to say "I own this". Look at Baltimore. Condo's start@ a million plus. It's a way of life. Just my 2 cent's.
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Post by bchevy on Mar 3, 2006 16:49:17 GMT -4
More name calling on here, great.
Not small minded, just not for me, and I'll never be able to figure out the "value" of them. Makes no sense to me.
I would understand in it a big city, but not out here.
No fence in my yard, NONE. I guess you think you can tell that by reading what I put here?
You're batting 1000 aren't ya?
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Post by Steve on Mar 15, 2006 18:29:55 GMT -4
Wow, that's quite a high level of angst.
I'm glad you referenced the true natives - the native Americans who paddled around the Bay in dug out canoes, and let's add the first English settlers you also referenced who landed in 1603 - everyone else, and I mean everyone, is a non-native. Everyone else had a family member who ventured out here, who moved here - maybe 100 years ago, maybe only 10. The fact is that what you are saying is "I have mine - but you can't have yours". You and folks like you strolled through the gates into paradise and then SLAMMED that gate shut behind you. You don't own this Island - please face that.
Rich folks? - I'm sorry you think that, but I have worked my tail off to buy a house out here. I have EARNED everything I have, beginning with enlisting in the Marine Corps and getting my college degree by using a veterans program. Stereotyping is always a bad idea - that is something that all of my very middle class neighbors here on KI: the electricians, and tile contractors and even massage therapist - have taught me. The Latin bashing is also a bad idea, as is any racial prejudice. Let them work here and 99 % will do just that.
The problem, and there is one, began when construction of the first bay bridge was delayed almost 20 years by WWII. This Island was artificially isolated well into the 60s, and folks like you were shocked by what was really a normal and healthy growth of the region. That normal growth is now continuing and my unsolicited advice is to deal with it and keep the biased and prejudiced comments to yourself, because we all know that is just what they are.
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Post by Jay on Mar 15, 2006 22:20:56 GMT -4
Very well said Steve.
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Post by stacy on Mar 27, 2006 21:18:47 GMT -4
I moved to Kent Island from PA last summer, and I think it's really nice here, but I really don't understand how people can afford to live here, or Maryland in general. I'm used to cheaper house prices, though. I think Kent Island is really pretty and I feel really blessed to live here, but I don't understand what everyone thinks is so bad about it. I grew up in a small, PA Dutch town, and now about 70% of the population there are immigrants from Mexico and Puerto Rico. I'm 100% for diversity, but the town has lost what it stands for. Is it really that bad here?
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Post by bchevy on Mar 28, 2006 20:14:24 GMT -4
they build designer ghettos and import people that can't normally afford the area, give them freee or dirt cheap housing, then that area goes to pot. Annapolis really is a good example of that. Wow, the things people think, believe, and pass on. Pretty twisted outlook I grew up over there, Never saw a "designer ghetto" or any "imported people" I can agree with the free/cheap housing and then going to pot, but that's a result of the people living there having NO reason to take care of it. They tear it up, and get a rebuilt unit for their trouble... Remember when the city rebuilt Robinwood? they put the tenants up in hotels, fixed up the dump called robinwood, then moved the same tenants back in!
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Post by Beckie on Apr 22, 2006 10:44:25 GMT -4
;)I've been here 25 years and would like to have growth. We need growth to have a healthy economy and to ensure that our taxes don't go through the roof. People need to understand whether you like it or not, the people will continue to come. Where do you think the young adults are going to live after they graduate? Why spend all that money on our teachers if all our investment in good education will benefit other counties. We need to be realistic and open our eyes and learn how to live together.
We can not take other people's property rights away. Who are we to say what a person can do or not do with their property. This is written in our constitution. If you do not like what is being proposed with a particular piece of property than - BUY IT!! Then you can do anything you want to with it. How would you feel if you just inherited 30 acres of land and your childen could benefit from utilizing that land to the best of your ability. BINGO - real estae and investments are your best return - so you decide to build homes or sell at market value to pay for their college, pay off loans or equipment. The farmers in this county get- the last commissioner's meeting they came out in large numbers and told the commissioners they do not want their property rights taken away in the event they need to sell their land. Take a good look at our county. There is so much land it is a joke when some small minority of people say we have rampant growth. The only place it looks like some growth is Kent Island.
If these set of commissioners would have allowed Four Seasons to go through and the sewer plant we would've already had enough sewer allocations for all of KI.
People, let's be honest -- 85% of QAC will NEVER, I say NEVER be developed. So why all the whining. Once all the other restrictions are taken away ONLY 11% of QAC is developable, I said ONLY 11%. That does not leave much for the developers or builders. And I'm talking about developers and builders who live in our county and honestly most only build between 7 - 18 homes per year. Who I might add pay for our roads, schools, libraries, parks, and so on. And provide thousands of jobs for our men and women in this county. Why do we have the painters, electricians, carpet installers, plumbers, and so on - the reason is housing and residential. As long as people keep having babies we will ALWAYS have growth. So if you do not like people - PLEASE move to the WEST- there you can live in the desert and not see a soul for days if you like. Otherwise, all the natives need to realize the secret of QAC is out and never to go back in the box- so come out of the dark and join the rest of us. I am married to a native - 4th generation QACountian and he can accept change and realizes that those memories are just that. You may always tuck them away in your pocket and take them out to view them but time is marching on. And the young families are desperately crying out for new businesses and activities for their kids.
Furthermore, I want my kids to be able to live here when they graduate from college. And by pushing people to other counties only drives the price of homes up. It's economics. The less homes we have on the market the more the price of homes go up. The more homes of the market, the price goes down.
The governor is supposed to be looking into giving the builders incentives to build workforce affordable homes. We will see,
So, let us work together.
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Post by Thomas on Apr 23, 2006 8:13:08 GMT -4
One early morning this past week, my husband and I rode our bikes down the cross-island trail. It was beautiful! So quiet and peaceful. Everything was green - birds chirping - the whole nine. Then we both realized that a good portion of what we were riding through would be developed if Four Seasons goes through. It was a sad realization. You can say whatever you want to about land-owners rights. But it doesn't change the fact that we are losing something valuable. Do we have to move to Queenstown or further to enjoy the lovely Eastern Shore? My concern is that everything is being dumped on KI. QAC is a big place - spread out! Rant over.
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Post by uvrays on Apr 24, 2006 13:53:45 GMT -4
The government can take away your property and can take it for ANY reason. It's called eminent domain.
I hope that your numbers are right about developable areas (10%). It seems as if all the development is occuring in one place, and one place only (Kent Island). How about placing housing developments somewhere other than Kent Island? How about Centreville, Crumpton, Sudlersville, Barclay, Church Hill or other places north east of the Narrows? Stop jamming housing into the area west of the Narrows.
Perhaps the county should be thinking about extending sewer along Rt 213 and 301. This would encourage growth along those corridors. There is considerably more undeveloped land along those roads than anywhere on Kent Island. This would enable our tradesman to continue to propser as well as being able to construct new affordable housing.
Don't hold your breathe on our governor providing housing solutions. Between him and our state legislature, we the citizens are going to have to provide solutions for affordable housing.
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Post by Beckie on May 1, 2006 15:24:17 GMT -4
;)Yes, only 11% developable land is available. Call Planning and Zoning and speak with Steve Kiegler or Faith Rossing. Yes, we need to move the growth towards 213 and 301. But brining sewer to those areas costs a hugh amount. Where will the county get the money. We canpass it off to the builders who will only incorporate into the asking prices of new homes. I agree Kent Island needs a break! Just beware of all the people phobias who do not want anyone moving on Rt. 213 or 301. Just can't figure out why people are afraid or mistrust other people who just want to make their life a little better, even if that means seeing one more home in your neighborhood.
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Post by Paul on May 1, 2006 16:44:41 GMT -4
Beckie? Are you a developer? I know a Beckie that built Oyster Cove?
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Post by bchevy on May 1, 2006 21:37:32 GMT -4
Just beware of all the people phobias who do not want anyone moving on Rt. 213 or 301. Just can't figure out why people are afraid or mistrust other people who just want to make their life a little better, even if that means seeing one more home in your neighborhood. You see, there it is right there. Who wants to make my life better? the developer? the builder? The government? NONE of them. all they are concerned about is M-O-N-E-Y, that's it, but they hide it in the lines that it's better for me? no way. It's never 1 more home, or 10, it's 200, or 400, or more Why do they pack as many homes into an area as they can? for the good of the people buying? for security? or maybe so you get to know your neighbors? nah, it's for the M-O-N-E-Y I'll take care of myself, and all you do gooders leave me alone, sorry if it sounds harsh, I do better on my own. It's too bad more people can't do for themselves instead of waiting for, or wanting, someone or the gov't to do it for them.....
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Post by Wm Bud Roe on May 3, 2006 0:55:36 GMT -4
:)Dear Bchevy, I have a 47 chevy coupe street rod. I like your style. I have lived here all my life except fathers and my milaitry duty. I am running for Queen's County Commissenner in District 1 ,because I am ready to stand up and be counted. Am having a car show ,pig roast, bonfire on Sunday May 7th. Look at my web site www.budroe.org What are you driving? Come on out to the farm. Bud Roe
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Post by bchevy on May 3, 2006 15:12:11 GMT -4
:)Dear Bchevy, I have a 47 chevy coupe street rod. I like your style. I have lived here all my life except fathers and my milaitry duty. I am running for Queen's County Commissenner in District 1 ,because I am ready to stand up and be counted. Am having a car show ,pig roast, bonfire on Sunday May 7th. Look at my web site www.budroe.org What are you driving? Come on out to the farm. Bud Roe can you PM me? or email me? bchevy
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