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Post by speedergurl68 on Nov 5, 2009 18:01:54 GMT -4
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Post by safetildecember on Nov 5, 2009 18:03:30 GMT -4
I just heard 12 dead and 31 hurt.
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Post by speedergurl68 on Nov 5, 2009 18:04:29 GMT -4
Yea, the update in that posted link also says that and that one of the soldiers that did the shooting has been apprehended...the other one was shot.
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Post by safetildecember on Nov 5, 2009 18:09:54 GMT -4
That's messed up. Shame.
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Post by moosie on Nov 5, 2009 18:14:34 GMT -4
so sad.
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Post by safetildecember on Nov 5, 2009 18:24:56 GMT -4
I wonder how long it is going to be before they say whether the 2 or 3 people in custody were shooting people or how were they involved. Let's hope we have a tattletale among them. They are saying the shooter was a Major in the Army from Virginia who converted to Islam who was about to be deployed and was not happy about it.
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Post by safetildecember on Nov 5, 2009 18:59:28 GMT -4
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Post by momof4 on Nov 5, 2009 19:09:35 GMT -4
Shaking my head and wondering WHY??? WHAT do people who do these things think this will accomplish or prove? This is a question I am sure we will never have the answer to. SO many people's lives changed in a matter of a few moments. Tragic. My prayers go out to all involved or affected....
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Post by bchevy on Nov 5, 2009 19:30:11 GMT -4
What momof4 said.
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Post by safetildecember on Nov 5, 2009 19:34:02 GMT -4
He was an Army psychiatrist. Geeez.
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Post by bchevy on Nov 5, 2009 19:35:05 GMT -4
You on CBS too? ;D
3 suspects? Sounds like more than just an upset soldier......
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Post by purplemd on Nov 5, 2009 20:55:39 GMT -4
It was a very scary hour or so for me this afternoon, once I heard the news I started texting my son, who is stationed at Ft. Hood, and when he didnt text back, all kinds of thoughts went thru my head, but happy to say he finally got the chance to call me and he was in lockdown about a mile from where it happened. I feel so sorry for the families of the soldiers involved in this rampage. They have so many things that they are already worried about with thier loved ones in the Army. You just don't think of something like that happening with one of thier own and on the base. I was there in July and it is a big base, with lots of caring people. Many monuments and memorials to many prior soldiers. There are even wild longhorns roaming the base, that was one of my funniest memories from my trip, needless to say in July it was very hot, but my son who has already served a tour in Iraq, said its nothing like the heat over there.
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Post by speedergurl68 on Nov 5, 2009 20:58:32 GMT -4
Thankful and glad your son is unharmed purplemd. Very thankful and glad.
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Post by mcbeth on Nov 5, 2009 21:20:04 GMT -4
Very glad your son is ok, purplemd. I'm sure that was a terrible time until you heard back from him.
My prayers are for all of those who were killed or hurt, and for their families. What a horrible tragedy.
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Post by safetildecember on Nov 5, 2009 21:44:19 GMT -4
This horrific event did not have to happen. This nutjob threw off many red flags for months and nothing was done about it. How did he shoot over 40 people with 2 handguns? Something does not seem right here.
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Post by chickennecker11 on Nov 5, 2009 22:42:53 GMT -4
GOD BLESS ALL OF OUR SOLDIERS WHO LOST THEIR LIVES ON AMERICAN SOIL TODAY....
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Post by safetildecember on Nov 5, 2009 23:49:20 GMT -4
The SOB is still alive and in stable condition. Geeez. They should let the mothers of the slain soldiers strap a bomb to that ba$tard. Kos Omak
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Post by harvestmoon on Nov 6, 2009 0:05:55 GMT -4
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Post by Frank on Nov 6, 2009 0:09:25 GMT -4
"Gee Tom, that soldier converted to Muslim. Do you think we should keep an eye on him?"
"No Hank. That would be profiling and we're not allowed to do that in this country"
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Post by safetildecember on Nov 6, 2009 0:16:01 GMT -4
It turns out he did not convert, he was born in the USA and has been muslim all his life. Apparently his family has been here for years, his cousin who is also Hasan was on the news claiming the killer is a good American. He was rambling on about how the killer was teased and called names etc., he said he went to local schools and joined the service right out of high school. When the interviewer asked about his family, he suddenly had to go. He had been investigated in the past but they did not do anything about it. He received a poor performance evaluation at Walter Reed, where he spent 6 years yet they transfer him to Texas before he was to be deployed.
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Post by safetildecember on Nov 6, 2009 0:22:50 GMT -4
"Gee Tom, that soldier converted to Muslim. Do you think we should keep an eye on him?" "No Hank. That would be profiling and we're not allowed to do that in this country" Exactly! Insane. If there is a guy with long blonde hair assaulting women in the Kmart parking lot for weeks and a guy with long blonde hair is spotted in the Kmart parking lot, it is not racial profiling to check him out. Hasan had a well known hatred for Americans, he was happy when Americans were killed by muslims and he stated more Muslims should kill Americans. What part of that didn't the authorities understand. "Political Correctness" is killing us.
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Post by einebierbitte on Nov 6, 2009 0:37:53 GMT -4
Once one completes their training at Walter Reed, internship, fellow, etc. they usually get orders..since Walter Reed is a teaching hospital.... And most soldiers at one point or another usually ends up at Ft Hood (some more than once..)...it's not out of the ordinary for this guy to be stationed at Ft Hood, no matter his performance evaluation. Which is not wholly based on job performance it factors in a whole lot more as well.......
We will never know the whole truth.
What happen today was a tragedy, but a reminder that violence can touch us anywhere, anyplace, anytime....
Tonight, my heart goes out to the friends and families that have lost their loved ones and the families of those wounded.
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Post by kl on Nov 6, 2009 7:58:57 GMT -4
Well..I think before fingers start to point, and people are yelling for his head, and we at KIO become Judge, Jury, we should wait for the FACTS. He was a career soldier..He was just promoted to Major, and I'm sure the military folks here will tell you, you just don't get promoted to Major for spit shined boots..He had been constantly bullied, and ridiculed for his beliefs..
God Bless the fallen and wounded, as well as the 500+ soldiers from Ft. Hood who have already given their lives for the U.S.A.
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Post by dej on Nov 6, 2009 9:37:28 GMT -4
Well..I think before fingers start to point, and people are yelling for his head, and we at KIO become Judge, Jury, we should wait for the FACTS. He was a career soldier..He was just promoted to Major, and I'm sure the military folks here will tell you, you just don't get promoted to Major for spit shined boots..He had been constantly bullied, and ridiculed for his beliefs.. God Bless the fallen and wounded, as well as the 500+ soldiers from Ft. Hood who have already given their lives for the U.S.A. You're right about waiting for the FACTS. The alleged bullying is not one of them yet. That claim is based on a statement from a family member (hardly impartial), and has not been established as a fact any more than some of the claims about his alleged statements praising suicide bombers.
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Post by kl on Nov 6, 2009 10:31:15 GMT -4
And lets try to ignore the other "crazies" posting stuff like this on the incident: Michelle Malkin's site. And after culling the real gems, I give you, The Truth:
From (12:14am):
If ever a case for internment as in WWII. Don’t know of anything during that time like this for that very reason. Profiling? d**n right, no other way to do it!! We’re talking about national security.
(12:23am):
We should not allow Muslims in our military.... Why are they allowed to enlist? Especially if they are practicing Islam, which vows to destroy all we stand for?
(12:29am):
One thing is for sure, he is a Muslim and had accomplices, so this is a terrorist attack against a U.S. Army base, and is absolute proof that President Obama has NOT kept America safe from terrorist attacks.
(12:51am):
We all know why he shot up American soldiers: Because he was a Muslim who joined to infiltrate our military and to kill American soldiers. Even though he was born here, he was a typical Muslim: not at all American and who sympathized only with his barbarian fellow Muslims abroad.
(1:41am):
On the 6:30pm CBS evening news, neither Katie Couric or any correspondents would say that the killer is Muslim. Instead, the whole CBS news team blamed the whole thing on the claim that under George W. Bush, the US military did not properly treat people for post traumatic stress disorder.... It won’t be long before Mo Dowd at the NY Times blames thingy Cheney and Haliburton for what happened.
(2:34am):
PC/Gun free zones get people killed. How much of this crap are we supposed to take? Enough is enough!
(2:53am):
We can thank the liberal pc elitists for a society that avoids the truth. His superiors would have addressed this malfunction earlier but, were afraid of the PC police.
And my favorite, being so short and sweet, and, from 3:08am, quite possibly intoxicated: The Mass Media news are leftist idiots!
There you have it. All the Truth that's unfit to print, but can always be found in cyberspace.
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