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Aug 14, 2010 19:34:47 GMT -4
Post by hisea on Aug 14, 2010 19:34:47 GMT -4
Obama has no problem telling Israel they shouldn’t build apartments in East Jerusalem, but he’s withholding his opinion on the wisdom of constructing a mosque next to where Islamofascists murdered thousands in the country of which he’s president?
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Aug 14, 2010 20:47:36 GMT -4
Post by bchevy on Aug 14, 2010 20:47:36 GMT -4
When we start seeing others as THEM, we stop seeing their humanity. This is a dangerous road you're heading down, sg. I hope you can find your way off of it. When your enemy's "humanity" still wants to cut off your friggin head..... or kill innocent people including pregnant women, The dangerous road is the one THEY PAVED. This is wrong in all sorts of ways. Would the U.S. have allowed Hitler to build an office in DC during his reign? This is no different in my eyes. THEY teach hatrid in these places. Major representatives of this religion are at war with this country, activly seeking us out as their "infidels" Aren't we at war against terror? MAYBE when the war is over and most of these bastards are 6 feet under then, and only then would any new mosques be ALLOWED to be built in ths country. again- WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE FROM ANY MUSLIMS FOR THE ATTACKS ON US? I'm still waiting...... HEre's a short refresher:
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Aug 14, 2010 21:15:06 GMT -4
Post by funnel101 on Aug 14, 2010 21:15:06 GMT -4
again- WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE FROM ANY MUSLIMS FOR THE ATTACKS ON US? From the other thread; I guessed you missed this:
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Aug 14, 2010 21:31:53 GMT -4
Post by bchevy on Aug 14, 2010 21:31:53 GMT -4
yeah, i missed this whole post while I was deleting the 19 spam posts by the new member "PAYPAL1"
I don't know who the "WE" is in that statement, I never heard it, saw it, or read it, and still don't see it today.
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Aug 14, 2010 23:29:44 GMT -4
Post by Frank on Aug 14, 2010 23:29:44 GMT -4
I wouldn't expect any less, coming from a PRESIDENT. The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law "respecting an establishment of religion", impeding the free exercise of religion, infringing on the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_ConstitutionShould the president pick and chose the parts of the constitution he wants to adhere to? Should citizens do the same? If we are going to live by the constitution, then we should live by it, not just the parts that we want to. Article 4, section 1 says a person in violation of the law in one state is in violation of the law in all states. How can we have safehaven states? Why does the administration allow this? Article 4, section 4 states the federal government will protect the countries borders. What possible reason would the federal government go through all the trouble of taking Arizona to court to stop them from performing the job that should be handled by the federal government? How about 5th amendment? Shouldn't the Black Panthers have been charged with violating the 5th amendment? Are crimes against whites lessened because of underlying guilt from slavery? Sure, Muslims have the right to build a mosque where ever they chose. That is the country we live in. But if they see the hurt in people of New York and really don't care, it seems to me they are building it to further divide people.
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Aug 15, 2010 8:55:00 GMT -4
Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2010 8:55:00 GMT -4
What's the safe haven state reference about?
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Aug 15, 2010 12:12:58 GMT -4
Post by grova on Aug 15, 2010 12:12:58 GMT -4
This just in! ALL 1.5 Billion Muslims are Terrorists! In other news...ALL Catholic priests are pedophiles, ALL Asians are smart, ALL African Americans are better athletes, ALL White guys can't dance, ALL Italians are mobsters. Amirite?
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Aug 15, 2010 12:16:48 GMT -4
Post by moosie on Aug 15, 2010 12:16:48 GMT -4
FINALLY someone has the ***** to say what every one is thinking! you are SO right, grova! thank you for speaking for everyone about everyone! ;D ;D
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Aug 15, 2010 14:13:53 GMT -4
Post by funnel101 on Aug 15, 2010 14:13:53 GMT -4
grova, you forgot one: ALL Kent Islanders are rednecks!
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Aug 15, 2010 17:14:51 GMT -4
Post by island tech on Aug 15, 2010 17:14:51 GMT -4
All Islamic folk who back Obama are terrorists!
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Aug 15, 2010 20:19:59 GMT -4
Post by grova on Aug 15, 2010 20:19:59 GMT -4
Kind of at a loss for words. I'm guessing that's a joke. Right?
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Aug 16, 2010 6:34:36 GMT -4
Post by speedergurl68 on Aug 16, 2010 6:34:36 GMT -4
This just in! ALL 1.5 Billion Muslims are Terrorists! In other news...ALL Catholic priests are pedophiles, ALL Asians are smart, ALL African Americans are better athletes, ALL White guys can't dance, ALL Italians are mobsters. Amirite? Kind of at a loss for words. I'm guessing that's a joke. Right? I would guess he was joking as I guess you were. And funnel...I wasn't implying a single thing toward or about you...that was why I used the personal pronouns "I" and "me". I was speaking about me and how I feel. Had I meant that to be aimed toward anyone else there would have been no misunderstanding. If you managed to take that as a statement against you....I am confused...but I apologize. Of course, your comment that you made toward me stating "If you don't hate Muslims you could have fooled me......" is obviously one that has confused my ability to disapprove of something with "hate". They are two completely separate issues. moosie sort of made my point for me when she stated my misquoted, however legal and guarded by the constitution, comment was "over the top".....yes....yes it was....unnecessary, over the top, disrespectful, distasteful to some, insulting, inflammatory......but legal and protected under the constitution...right? anyone else see what i did there? I would LOVE to direct my anger and outrage at the EXACT individuals that did that....but they were cowards and aren't here to face that. I most certainly do NOT hate Muslims...regardless of what mislead conclusion some may have come to....but I am relatively certain a LARGE portion of them hate ME. Which is their choice. I didn't invent the conflict between Islam and Christianity, I didn't participate in any of its' battles nor have I ever endorsed the persecution of the peaceful sector of its' believers. The 9/11 attacks were not made on Christians by Muslims...they were made on AMERICA & ITS' PEOPLE.....and every single one of the terrorists WAS a radical Muslim. Did I EVER say ALL MUSLIMS are terrorists?? Don't be absurd....that is simply sensationalism to redirect away from the main point. I absolutely did NOT say it. If it were Baptists that did that I wouldn't want a Baptist church built near it. If it were Catholics, ditto....get off the "those poor Muslims" trainwreck. It's called RESPECT and DECENCY....I wasn't aware that ANY single religion held the sole rights to those two things, nor that having "the right" to do something gave you the "right" to hurt people in the process. Sorry...my bad.... This has once again been turned into a sensationalistic, emotionally charged, screwed up mess....keeping the actual basis of the story occluded from few and practical discussion. Sort of like the "if you don't vote for Obama you are a racist" thing that happened a few years back.....a total lie and fabrication done to whip the uninformed public into a froth and exact a knee jerk reaction long enough to accomplish a goal......history repeats itself often folks.....often. You don't have to agree with what I say or think. I don't look for that from anyone. Your agreement or disagreement with me doesn't validate me or invalidate me as a human being on any level. I respect your different opinions....EXPECT your different opinions...but it never ceases to amaze me how if I don't think the way some people think I should it makes me the wrong one....oh well...I suppose that is their opinion they are entitled to. I really was DONE with this thread as it had spiraled out into total nonsense....but was told that funnel had somehow managed to take something I said about ME and how I PERSONALLY feel....about herself....(which was incorrect)...and I came in to clarify that...the rest is just bonus material for Monday. Thank goodness I AM done with it NOW. Any further questions or clarifications anyone feels I should make....send me an email....this mess is just pointless.
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Aug 16, 2010 8:27:19 GMT -4
Post by island tech on Aug 16, 2010 8:27:19 GMT -4
I was joking.
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Aug 16, 2010 14:49:34 GMT -4
Post by grova on Aug 16, 2010 14:49:34 GMT -4
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Aug 16, 2010 17:58:26 GMT -4
Post by bchevy on Aug 16, 2010 17:58:26 GMT -4
I'm all for tolerance................
Until they attack. Then it needs to be all bets off and winner take all.
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Aug 20, 2010 16:07:31 GMT -4
Post by hisea on Aug 20, 2010 16:07:31 GMT -4
As the son of the Muslim father, Senator Obama was born a Muslim under Muslim law as it is universally understood. It makes no difference that, as Senator Obama has written, his father said he renounced his religion. Likewise, under Muslim law based on the Koran his mother’s Christian background is irrelevant.
it is a mistake to conflate his African identity with his Muslim heritage. Senator Obama is half African by birth and Africans can understandably identify with him. In Islam, however, there is no such thing as a half-Muslim. Like all monotheistic religions, Islam is an exclusive faith.
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Aug 20, 2010 18:53:52 GMT -4
Post by falgar25 on Aug 20, 2010 18:53:52 GMT -4
As the son of the Muslim father, Senator Obama was born a Muslim under Muslim law as it is universally understood. It makes no difference that, as Senator Obama has written, his father said he renounced his religion. Likewise, under Muslim law based on the Koran his mother’s Christian background is irrelevant. it is a mistake to conflate his African identity with his Muslim heritage. Senator Obama is half African by birth and Africans can understandably identify with him. In Islam, however, there is no such thing as a half-Muslim. Like all monotheistic religions, Islam is an exclusive faith. You forgot this part: Of course, as most Americans understand it, Senator Obama is not a Muslim. He chose to become a Christian, and indeed has written convincingly to explain how he arrived at his choice and how important his Christian faith is to him. His conversion, however, was a crime in Muslim eyes; it is “irtidad” or “ridda,” usually translated from the Arabic as “apostasy,” but with connotations of rebellion and treason. Indeed, it is the worst of all crimes that a Muslim can commit, worse than murder (which the victim’s family may choose to forgive). With few exceptions, the jurists of all Sunni and Shiite schools prescribe execution for all adults who leave the faith not under duress; the recommended punishment is beheading at the hands of a cleric, although in recent years there have been both stonings and hangings. (Some may point to cases in which lesser punishments were ordered — as with some Egyptian intellectuals who have been punished for writings that were construed as apostasy — but those were really instances of supposed heresy, not explicitly declared apostasy as in Senator Obama’s case.) From here: www.nytimes.com/2008/05/12/opinion/12luttwak.html?_r=3&ref=todayspaper&oref=sloginPlease give proper credit to sources you use.
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Aug 20, 2010 20:45:35 GMT -4
Post by hisea on Aug 20, 2010 20:45:35 GMT -4
Sure if you say so!
Question: Are Muslims permitted to lie?
Answer: Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to "smooth over differences."
There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.
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Aug 23, 2010 17:53:46 GMT -4
Post by hisea on Aug 23, 2010 17:53:46 GMT -4
Must have Book! ;D
As Americans, liberty is an inalienable right that is granted to us by God, protected by the Constitution, and upheld by our government. Yet, Barack Obama doesn’t seem to share that view. To him, liberty is a threat to the government’s power and something to be squashed by any means possible, as bestselling author David Limbaugh shows to devastating affect in his new book, Crimes Against Liberty. In Crimes Against Liberty, Limbaugh issues a d**ning indictment of President Barack Obama for encroaching upon and stripping us of our individual and sovereign rights. Laying out his case like he would a criminal complaint, Limbaugh presents the evidence—count-by-count—against Obama. From exploiting the financial crisis for political gain, to restricting our personal freedoms through invasive healthcare and “green” policies, to endangering America with his feckless diplomacy and reckless dismantlement of our national security systems, Limbaugh proves—beyond a reasonable doubt—that Obama is guilty of crimes against liberty. Comprehensive and compelling, this is Limbaugh’s most powerful book yet.
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Aug 24, 2010 15:07:39 GMT -4
Post by hisea on Aug 24, 2010 15:07:39 GMT -4
How's that hope and change working for you? Existing Home Sales Hit 15-Year Low; Housing Market Weakens!
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Aug 24, 2010 15:39:04 GMT -4
Post by hisea on Aug 24, 2010 15:39:04 GMT -4
Libs Blame Our "Imam Obama" for Confusion Over Obama's Religion!
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Aug 25, 2010 5:51:24 GMT -4
Post by hisea on Aug 25, 2010 5:51:24 GMT -4
Mosque Imam Rauf: US Has More Blood on Its Hands Than Al-Qaeda This guy sounds a whole lot like Reverend Wright. ;D
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Aug 25, 2010 10:59:52 GMT -4
Post by funnel101 on Aug 25, 2010 10:59:52 GMT -4
Well, we've certainly killed more people in our history as a country than Al Qaeda has.
[EDIT: I was thinking of qualifying this statement by pointing out the difference between killing soldiers of another country's and innocent civilians, but we beat Al Qaeda there, too: Hiroshima and Nagasaki.]
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Aug 25, 2010 13:36:45 GMT -4
Post by speedergurl68 on Aug 25, 2010 13:36:45 GMT -4
, but we beat Al Qaeda there, too: Hiroshima and Nagasaki.] Um....only after being sneak attacked in a war we didn't want to be a part of originally. I guess Al Qaeda doesn't have the History Channel - and if they do...guess they are kinda stupid.
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Aug 25, 2010 15:06:22 GMT -4
Post by hale80 on Aug 25, 2010 15:06:22 GMT -4
, but we beat Al Qaeda there, too: Hiroshima and Nagasaki.] Um....only after being sneak attacked in a war we didn't want to be a part of originally. I guess Al Qaeda doesn't have the History Channel - and if they do...guess they are kinda stupid. Agree Speed68. Funnel - War is war and war is hell. I guess you think we should have trotted on over to Tokyo and had tea and biscuits? Picture the japanese or worse - the Nazi flag flying over the white house - then ask yourself about all those social programs we just can't live without - NOT!
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