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Post by tomc on Sept 18, 2011 9:10:22 GMT -4
Tell me how that's a good idea again? This one, a T-28 over a West Virginia airshow. The one the other day over the Reno NV air show, killing 9. Imagine how many would be killed if they dropped one over Annapolis. Does it happen often? No. But it would only take one time.
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Post by falgar25 on Sept 18, 2011 9:25:28 GMT -4
The Blue Angels events are "over" Annapolis but are not over Annapolis. Imagine how many would be killed? I imagine it would be one, the pilot, at the most.
Comparing these events to the Blue Angels' events is like comparing apples to kumquats. Yes, all three events involve airplanes and spectators but the comparison ends there.
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Post by cranky64 on Sept 18, 2011 10:17:28 GMT -4
Remember the f-22 crash in Middle River back in 97?
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Post by tomc on Sept 18, 2011 10:43:49 GMT -4
The Blue Angels events are "over" Annapolis but are not over Annapolis. Imagine how many would be killed? I imagine it would be one, the pilot, at the most. You need to go sit in traffic oh, about the Riva Road area. Your claim that they don't fly over populated areas is WRONG.
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Post by tomc on Sept 18, 2011 10:45:08 GMT -4
Remember the f-22 crash in Middle River back in 97? Wasn't that a F-117 Stealth Fighter? He planted that one in someone's backyard.
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Post by falgar25 on Sept 18, 2011 10:49:19 GMT -4
The Blue Angels events are "over" Annapolis but are not over Annapolis. Imagine how many would be killed? I imagine it would be one, the pilot, at the most. You need to go sit in traffic oh, about the Riva Road area. Your claim that they don't fly over populated areas is WRONG. I never made that claim.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2011 11:26:56 GMT -4
Kumquats
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Post by RobMoore on Sept 18, 2011 11:45:31 GMT -4
Tomc, stop being a chicken little. Planes fly over major cities all day every day. A passenger plane would do a lot more damage than an F18.
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Post by tomc on Sept 18, 2011 19:03:12 GMT -4
Tomc, stop being a chicken little. Planes fly over major cities all day every day. A passenger plane would do a lot more damage than an F18. Passenger planes don't fly over heavily populated areas at 600 mph and low altitude doing acrobatics in close proximity to other planes doing the same. The chances of an accident or mechanical malfunction are increased to a nearly astronomic level with nearly no chance of recovery. It's only a matter of time before a tragedy occurs. And FWIW I love airshows, think planes, especially fighters are way cool. I just don't think that flying them, doing "precision acrobatics" over heavily populated areas is a good idea. Accidents at the two recent shows kinda proves my point.
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Post by island tech on Sept 18, 2011 19:13:32 GMT -4
tomc put your helmet on and stay in your house
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Post by tomc on Sept 18, 2011 19:19:30 GMT -4
The Blue Angels events are "over" Annapolis but are not over Annapolis. Imagine how many would be killed? I imagine it would be one, the pilot, at the most. Comparing these events to the Blue Angels' events is like comparing apples to kumquats. Yes, all three events involve airplanes and spectators but the comparison ends there. You didn't say this? Unless someone has your password, yes. Yes you did.
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Post by falgar25 on Sept 18, 2011 19:47:49 GMT -4
The Blue Angels events are "over" Annapolis but are not over Annapolis. Imagine how many would be killed? I imagine it would be one, the pilot, at the most. Comparing these events to the Blue Angels' events is like comparing apples to kumquats. Yes, all three events involve airplanes and spectators but the comparison ends there. You didn't say this? Unless someone has your password, yes. Yes you did. I said that ^^^ But I didn't make the claim you attribute to me here: You need to go sit in traffic oh, about the Riva Road area. Your claim that they don't fly over populated areas is WRONG. OF COURSE they fly over populated areas: they don't have pontoons that allow them to land in the water and they don't spend 8760 hours per year circling over the Atlantic. They fly over populated areas but they do not perform aerobatic maneuvers over Annapolis (or over Riva Rd for that matter).
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Post by dej on Sept 19, 2011 2:59:03 GMT -4
You need to go sit in traffic oh, about the Riva Road area. Your claim that they don't fly over populated areas is WRONG. As someone who drives Rte 50 and Riva daily at various hours of the day and night (shiftworker), getting hit a Blue Angel is wayyyyyy down the list of things I worry about
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Post by deputy on Sept 19, 2011 7:11:05 GMT -4
You need to go sit in traffic oh, about the Riva Road area. Your claim that they don't fly over populated areas is WRONG. RIVA RD. AREA? Really? Clue me in please. I grew up right off of Riva Rd. Over 30 years worth and never, not once, did I see traffic from the Blue Angels.... Inner West st. yep inner parts of Forest Dr., some.... Route 50 yep Rowe Blvd. ooh Yeah Riva Rd. even in Parole, NOPE, NADDA, ZIP, Just the same old crappy rush & lunch hour traffic and the bassackwards interchange for Aris Allen Blvd.
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Post by deputy on Sept 19, 2011 7:11:41 GMT -4
Tomc, stop being a chicken little. Planes fly over major cities all day every day. A passenger plane would do a lot more damage than an F18. And What Rob Said.....
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Post by freefallin on Sept 19, 2011 8:45:07 GMT -4
There was also the B-52 crash in Washington in ’94. There are numerous disasters at air shows and practices for air shows all over youtube. I don’t think we need a knee jerk reaction to cancel all of these activities. I love attending air shows just as I love attending a car race. There is the risk of calamity when pilots and drivers push their machines to the limits but that is what people come to see. They are the best at what they do with years of training and the best technology available and it is unfortunate when something goes wrong. These are spectator events that draw huge crowds and are great for the local economies, but the risk is minimal. The media does its best to show how horrible these things are by showing it over and over again which causes reactions like this. Just to be clear, this happened at a civilian show vs. a military show.
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Post by Frank on Sept 19, 2011 23:13:24 GMT -4
Tractor-trailer accidents are much more common than plane crashes. Tell me again how they're a good idea. We need to get these death machines off the road now!
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Post by dej on Sept 20, 2011 8:29:15 GMT -4
Tractor-trailer accidents are much more common than plane crashes. Tell me again how they're a good idea. We need to get these death machines off the road now! What percentage of those wrecks are caused by the drivers of the cars? And the alternative for re-supplying things like local grocery stores, hardware stores, etc, or for moving things like produce would be Let's just look at grocery stores. If you take tractor trailers out of the picture, what's the alternative? Cube trucks (like U-Hauls)? That would mean at least 3 to 4 additional vehicles to replace one rig, and 3 to 4 additional drivers. When you add in the costs of extra gas to run that fleet, increased maintenance costs, paying extra drivers, insurance on more vehicles, we'd probably be looking at $9 or $10 for a gallon of milk and $4 for a loaf of Wonder bread! That's not even taking into account what increased demand would do to gas prices, or the environmental and traffic impact of all those extra vehicles on the road!
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Post by markp on Sept 20, 2011 9:33:40 GMT -4
I think Frank was trying to make a point Dej. People have knee jerk reactions to this type of thing instead of weighing in other factors of life.
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Post by dej on Sept 20, 2011 20:05:43 GMT -4
Sorry if I missed the point Frank. It was after a 12 hour shift and I was guilty of typing while tired
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Post by hemlock256 on Sept 21, 2011 8:18:44 GMT -4
I think Frank was trying to make a point Dej. People have knee jerk reactions to this type of thing instead of weighing in other factors of life. Yep.
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Post by hisea on Sept 24, 2011 16:17:41 GMT -4
This could happen? Conditions were perfect for a routine scheduled flight by PSA (Pacific Southwest Airlines) Boeing 727-200 N533PS on the morning of September 25, 1978. Flight 182 was flying the daily morning service of California's largest feeder airline from Sacramento to San Diego, via Los Angeles. While it was on the ground at Los Angeles, on and off loading passengers, a single-engine Cessna 172, N7711G, took off at 08.15am from Montgomery Field, a municipal airport seven miles northeast of San Diego's main airport, Lindbergh Field. www.airdisaster.com/special/special-psa182.shtml
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