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Post by georgej202 on Apr 15, 2013 9:00:37 GMT -4
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Post by cranky64 on Apr 15, 2013 9:10:14 GMT -4
"The 10 areas affected by the “rain tax” include Montgomery, Prince George’s, Howard, Anne Arundel, Carroll, Hartford, Charles, Frederick, Baltimore counties, and Baltimore city."
They get exactly what they voted for.
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Post by georgej202 on Apr 15, 2013 10:26:42 GMT -4
Good point
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Post by markp on Apr 15, 2013 11:59:06 GMT -4
Pretty soon we'll have a tax for converting oxygen into carbon dioxide.
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Post by tomc on Apr 15, 2013 12:03:14 GMT -4
However QA County conservatives are towing the line and opposing clean water (SKI). Yea team!
Watershed fees, some of them based on runoff are being charged ALL OVER THE COUNTRY by local municipalities in order to fund clean water initiatives. They are called STORMWATER FEES and are part of the regular water bill, and have been for years. They are used for infrastructure to handle increased need for water treatment due to stormwater runoff in the sewers.
These are nothing new.
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Post by constructr on Apr 15, 2013 13:12:12 GMT -4
Pretty soon we'll have a tax for converting oxygen into carbon dioxide. Jesus, Mark! Don't give them any ideas!! Here’s What’s Included in Maryland’s Controversial ‘Rain Tax’ (It’s Exactly What It Sounds Like) www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...t-sounds-like/On the heels of Maryland’s decision to enact tough new gun laws, the ironically nicknamed state (the “Free State”) will now impose a so-called “rain tax” on its residents. The “storm management fee,” passed by the state legislature in 2012, will go into effect on July 1 following a decree from Democrat Gov. Martin O’Malley. But first, a little background [via the The Gazette]: In 2010 the Obama administration’s Environmental Protection Agency ordered Maryland to reduce stormwater runoff into the Chesapeake Bay so that nitrogen levels fall 22 percent and phosphorus falls 15 percent from current amounts. The price tag: $14.8 billion. And where do we get the $14.8 billion? By taxing so-called “impervious surfaces,” anything that prevents rain water from seeping into the earth (roofs, driveways, patios, sidewalks, etc.) thereby causing stormwater run off. In other words, a rain tax. The EPA ordered Maryland to raise the money (an unfunded mandate), Maryland ordered its 10 largest counties to raise the money (another unfunded mandate) and, now, each of those counties is putting a local rain tax in place by July 1. The 10 areas affected by the “rain tax” include Montgomery, Prince George’s, Howard, Anne Arundel, Carroll, Hartford, Charles, Frederick, Baltimore counties, and Baltimore city. “Fees will be calculated on the surface area of properties as the theory is that roofs, driveways and carparks create more potential for drainage problems and water contamination,” Metro explains. “Councils are supposed to determine how much to charge per square foot, but the fee depends on the size of the building and surrounding paved surfaces.” But how will tax collectors know how to tax “impervious surfaces”? How will they know how much to charge per square foot? Again, we turn to The Gazette: “Thanks to satellite imagery and geographic information systems, Big Brother can measure your roof and driveway (and you thought drones were only used for killing terrorists).” Yes, according to this report, Maryland will use satellite imagery to calculate “storm management” fees. And how does the state plan to spend these new tax dollars? It’s unclear: The state law is kind of squishy. It can be spent to build and maintain stream and wetland restoration projects. And, of course, a lot of it will go to “monitoring, inspection, enforcement, review of stormwater management plans and permit applications and mapping of impervious surfaces.” In other words, hiring more bureaucrats to administer the rain tax program. It can also be spent on “public education and outreach” (whatever that means) and on “grants to nonprofit organizations” (i.e. to the greenies who pushed the tax through the various levels of government). Also: “ tate lawmakers exempted government-owned property from the rain tax but imposed it on religions and nonprofits (which own big roofs and parking lots).”
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Post by markp on Apr 15, 2013 14:11:06 GMT -4
Can't imagine what Arundel Mills will be dishing out between the building and the sea of asphalt they have going on out there.
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Post by overboost44 on Apr 15, 2013 14:19:04 GMT -4
How will they measure/know who has permeable concrete and asphalt? Many of the latest buildings, hospitals, and even residences are putting in permeable surfaces. What a bunch of crap.
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Post by cranky64 on Apr 15, 2013 14:30:31 GMT -4
AstroTurf, the roof and drive way of the future.
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Post by markp on Apr 15, 2013 14:41:20 GMT -4
I'm sure the responsibility will be on us to prove that one overboost.
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Post by bob66 on Apr 15, 2013 15:54:09 GMT -4
How will they measure/know who has permeable concrete and asphalt? Many of the latest buildings, hospitals, and even residences are putting in permeable surfaces. What a bunch of crap. They can be measured using a service call Eagle View. Roofing contractors use it to get satellite views of roofs and the program can convert the pitch of the roof to square feet. Saves contractors from doing site visits when quoting roof jobs. It is VERY accurate. I have used it. *Edit* Just caught the real meaning of your comment, sorry. They probably can't tell if the surfaces are permeable or not, and probably won't care. They will probably put the burden of proof on the homeowner after they impose the fee.
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Post by jetskibrat on Apr 15, 2013 17:18:13 GMT -4
Satellite technology can see surfaces
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Post by georgej202 on Apr 15, 2013 18:34:37 GMT -4
And I am sure it will be put in a lock box that would go for what they said it would, like the highway user fund or the waterway improvement fund, now both raided and empty. Like spped cameras its another way for the Dems to bring in money Maryland to buy votes George`
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Post by jetdoc on Apr 15, 2013 23:37:37 GMT -4
Do they issue refunds if there is a drought ?
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Post by RobMoore on Apr 16, 2013 7:03:33 GMT -4
No, because they aren't making as much money as they "need", they make up for the budget shortfall by upping rates.
That money is already spent, they need to get it from you and I somehow.
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Post by Frank on Apr 16, 2013 8:41:11 GMT -4
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Post by bluecrabber on Apr 17, 2013 21:55:21 GMT -4
So, just how is it Maryland is going to reduce nitrogen runoff in the bay when most of it comes from PA via the Susquehanna River??
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Post by freefallin on Apr 17, 2013 22:53:10 GMT -4
....by implementing a new tax! That is the libs solution to all the problems.
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Post by bluecrabber on Apr 22, 2013 11:04:04 GMT -4
"The 10 areas affected by the “rain tax” include Montgomery, Prince George’s, Howard, Anne Arundel, Carroll, Hartford, Charles, Frederick, Baltimore counties, and Baltimore city." They get exactly what they voted for. Don't worry, within two years the tax will apply to all MD counties. Remember when they first started emissions testing? We were exempt for the first couple years.. :/ We were talking about it with friends last night.. joking about tearing up an asphalt driveway and putting stones down again..
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