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Post by bchevy on Feb 16, 2009 20:04:32 GMT -4
A WHOLE Committee of gov't "experts", even more bigger government.....
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Post by falgar25 on Feb 16, 2009 22:18:40 GMT -4
Not a bad thing that Govt. is interested in protecting their multi-billion dollar investment. Not sure Govt. really has much to show for its ability to run something well and control costs.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2009 10:55:20 GMT -4
There are times that bigger government needs to happen. To me, the rational should be done for the right reasons and managed smartly.
The TSA was created after 911, about 180,000 employees and millions of dollars budget. Was that the right thing to do, probably. The TSA meant bigger government though.
The DOE was created after the first energy crisis by Carter when he came into office to address our energy problem. Look at the DOE's mission now. There isn't anything mentioned about oil, gas, wind, turbine, efficiency, etc. It's all mostly about nuclear security and national security stuff.
Maybe the stimulus package should be wrapped around national security and potential terrorist attacks......besides, if the american auto industry fails, we will end up driving around in chinese cars, probably be able to buy them at wally world along with all the other chinese made stuff at low prices. There's your national security stuff in the making.
What we need is smart government to solve problems, what ever size it is.
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Post by bluecrabber on Feb 19, 2009 7:17:34 GMT -4
The auto industry would recover on it's own if the govt could figure out a way to stabilize and regulate oil prices.
People will go buy a new car or truck and a new house, causing a lot of people to be able to keep their job or go back to work if they had any confidence they would be able to afford gas or diesel or heating oil next month, or next year, or five years down the road.
Right now, nobody has any confidence they will be able to afford to own a car in the future. All we have heard over the last two years by so-called financial experts is gas may go to $7 or $8 a gallon.
Who in their right mind is going to go buy a new pickup or SUV, or buy a new home in the country that doubles their commute miles?
I am not defending the wall street bankers, or Fannie and Freddie, but those guys just got caught up an energy market that killed the housing business. And, don't foget they were given the license to practice sub prime loans by a Democrat Congress.
The bankers were not worried about loaning someone with shaky credit 100% of the value of their home when it was appreciating at 15% a year. It only went to heck in a handbasket when oil went nuts and people stopped buying houses. And then with a glut of unsold houses the prices fell.
People with loans on the edge of affordability, who were sold the adjustable rate or interest only loan expecting to refinance at a fixed rate after the introductory period were suddenly told by the bank their home was no longer worth what they owe. It will not appraise for the same amount you owe. We can't give you a new loan. Pay up or we foreclose.
So, who is at fault?
The blame finger in Washington and from the talking heads on tv points all over the place but in my book OPEC and commodities traders started the whole mess.
My annoyance factor with politicians in general is pretty high these days.
Best regards, BC
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Post by lynn on Feb 19, 2009 12:21:00 GMT -4
A WHOLE Committee of gov't "experts", even more bigger government..... exactly Bchevy, this is just the beginning. This is ridiculous.
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Post by bluecrabber on Feb 19, 2009 13:09:04 GMT -4
It's not just we the people who are annoyed at some of the goings on.. it seems some of our elected officials are getting a little chafed also:
Sorry Mr. President: It’s More Than a Healthy Difference of Opinion!
Just the other day, our newly elected President Obama, made the bizarre statement that the anger he is hearing from individuals across America and the disapproving statements emanating from some in Congress against the recent “Economic Stimulus Bill” is not really an issue. According to our President, “It’s only a healthy difference of opinion.”
To that I say, hogwash. Healthy (but unimportant) differences of opinion? These are serious questions: Economic Stimulus or a Bankrupting de-Stimulus? Wise investment or disastrous debt? New Deal or Raw Deal? Prudent planning or central planning? Nationalization or free-enterprise? Socialism or capitalism? Transparency or Chicago politics? Promises kept or promises broken? Inspiring leadership or blatant power-grabbing? Shall I go on?
These contrasts are not just differences of opinion, but foundational distinctions between honesty and deception, between freedom and tyranny, between the rule of law and the law of raw power. Yes, between good and evil. I am embarrassed and angered at this naked expansion of government and the Obama promise that this “mammoth package is just the beginning”
No, my friends. We are beyond simple differences of opinion. We’re into core values, to matters of conviction of principle and philosophy. We’re into those things that force grown men to the point where they are compelled to say “Enough is enough” and to draw the line, to stand up or risk being untrue to themselves and their families.
I have longed and prayed that this President would indeed bring some good change, the kind that could bring us closer together as a nation. The kind that would produce leadership marked with reason, wisdom and prudence. The kind that would strengthen the candle of freedom and restore the moral strength that marks the America we all love. But, act after act, decision after decision, and arrogant comment after arrogant comment has erased all hope for any “good” change, and this in just a matter of weeks. (I think many who voted for Obama, and even those of us who did not, had this hope)
And what convinced me beyond all doubt of the change intended by our Commander in Chief were his carefully chosen comments this past Thursday. It was Lincoln’s birthday – a day to celebrate the birth of a loved President. Obama used the occasion to appropriate the image of our 16th President to himself and to shamelessly compare his unconstitutional move into socialism to the ending of slavery and the uniting of a divided nation. As bad as this was, our President blatantly reached back to our Founding Fathers seeking to ascribe to himself the remembrance of those who were willing to sacrifice their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor for our Constitution and for our freedom. When the Constitution was ratified, a woman asked Benjamin Franklin what we now had. His comment: “you now have a republic, if you can keep it.” Franklin’s inspiring words of warning were surgically lifted by our President and fraudulently applied to himself in justification of the Stimulus Plan. As I heard him say, “my actions on this stimulus plan are necessary to preserve our republic!” I could just hear Franklin and Jefferson and the others scream out from the grave.
When I heard this statement I became utterly convinced that we are not watching a man who is still seeking truth with whom we should give the benefit of the doubt. No, I am left with the firm conclusion that we are watching an intelligent, strategic, and miss-directed man. A man focused on himself. A man who is willing to re-define the most holy and sacred concepts of freedom and liberty to justify the most unholy and most enslaving actions that marked the very tyranny that our Founders opposed. This shouts out to me, and I hope to you, the reasons we must look for opportunities to “draw the line” and to “stand up”.
More to you later on how. Feel free to get back to me with how you feel we can best "Stand Up."
For the Cause of Liberty,
State Representative Sam Rohrer District 128 – Berks County, Pennsylvania
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