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Post by outlaw on Apr 28, 2007 21:23:38 GMT -4
www.sentinelwhispers.com/Above is a link to an interesting article which states that historically democracies only last about 200 years. It's encouraging that our country has already passed that milestone. I've never heard about this countdown, but I don't get around much. The author thinks that granting amnesty to illegals will cause the ruin of our country within 5 years and has some interesting Gore/Bush statistics if they're true.
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Post by bchevy on Apr 29, 2007 6:36:05 GMT -4
Strange they don't have any examples of the democracies that lasted about 200 years....
You mean I can vote myself "generous gifts from the public treasury"? Remind me to check that box next time I vote.
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Post by ljp on Apr 30, 2007 12:56:20 GMT -4
is it me or can anyone else not find that article?
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Post by heather on Apr 30, 2007 13:39:55 GMT -4
nope...I can't find it either.
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Post by outlaw on Apr 30, 2007 13:50:33 GMT -4
Sorry, guys, it was right at the top of the site but now it's gone. From now on I guess cut and paste is the way to go.
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Post by outlaw on Apr 30, 2007 13:56:52 GMT -4
I googled on "democracy countdown" and found below on what I guess is an old link to the same website. It doesn't say who the author is.
From Sentinel Whispers:
"HOW LONG DO WE HAVE? This is the most interesting thing I've read in a long time. The sad thing about it, you can see it coming. I have always heard about this democracy countdown. It is interesting to see it in print. God help us, not that we deserve it. About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier: "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government."
A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury."
"From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."
"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years"
"During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:
1. From bondage to spiritual faith; 2. From spiritual faith to great courage; 3. From courage to liberty; 4. From liberty to abundance; 5. From abundance to complacency; 6. From complacency to apathy; 7. From apathy to dependence; 8. From dependence back into bondage"
Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul , Minnesota , points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election: Number of States won by: Gore: 19 Bush: 29
Square miles of land won by: Gore: 580,000 Bush: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by: Gore: 127 million Bush: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Gore: 13.2 Bush: 2.1
Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country. Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..."
Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegals and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.
Pass this along to help everyone realize just how much is at stake, knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom."
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Post by falgar25 on May 2, 2007 6:28:03 GMT -4
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Post by Pete Richter on May 3, 2007 7:32:41 GMT -4
Ron Smith WBAL 1090am - Reported that 40% of the construction work force in California is paid under the table. Who is benefiting from this illegal activity? I'm sure it's not the legal American taxpayer.
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Post by kl on May 3, 2007 11:13:06 GMT -4
That's old news Pete. It's been well know that the corporations, companies, even the food industry, knowingly hire illegals, because they'll work for lower wages, straight time, and never compalin. Because who can they complain to. Nothing but smoke being blown by the politicans on solving this illegal immigration problem. They benefit by being in America, and they thank America by shipping billions of their wages back to their countries.
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Post by Pete Richter on May 4, 2007 17:53:23 GMT -4
ki.......Everything in life is old news. The only thing new in life is the history we haven't already learned. History repeats itself because human nature never changes. The story is always the same, only the names, and faces change.
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