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Post by sarahj on May 12, 2007 18:59:56 GMT -4
Did anyone else see the article in the Sunpaper this week about the truck stops in the state that paid like 6 or 7 millions dollars in fines for some kind of crimes they committed?
Apparently one of the truck stops was Centreville and our local police were a part of the raids.
I was telling my husband that it seems to be getting more and more like time to think about moving. Even though truck stops are needed, they always seem to bring some kind of trouble with them.
Does anyone else know the details of the truck stop and the crime they were just convicted of committing? According to what I see in the Sunpaper, it must have been something big for the Federal Government, State and local police to be involved. I haven't seen anything in the local papers.
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Post by Rich Fisher on May 12, 2007 19:56:07 GMT -4
Wasn't that something to do with a person basically pimping a minor out to truckers? I remember hearing something about that a while back.
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Post by sarahj on May 12, 2007 20:51:34 GMT -4
Darn, my hubby has the paper and he is at work, but I think it had to do with vending machine gambling or something like that. Does that sound right?
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Post by falgar25 on May 13, 2007 6:48:20 GMT -4
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Post by sarahj on May 13, 2007 10:51:02 GMT -4
I guess it is related to what you linked.
We had been looking at several new homes in that area but if that kind of stuff is going on, I think we will pass!
You mean the Sheriff was associated with the truck stop also? Why would he have done that?
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Post by sarahj on May 14, 2007 8:59:04 GMT -4
We were thinking of moving up towards the centreville area, how is crime around there?
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Post by shoreman on May 14, 2007 9:53:40 GMT -4
I think in the town of centreville, the crime is not too bad if that is where you are thinking of moving.
As to the article your talking about, remember all of the people defending the Mr Hofmann for taking money from the truck stop? His department and others are the ones who investigated the truck stop, he takes money from them during his campaign while they are under federal ingestigation and we are suppose to believe this guy is OK?
I rest my case on his credibility, ZERO.
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Post by outlaw on May 14, 2007 10:10:29 GMT -4
I read about the truck stops in the "Sun" article but didn't see anything about the Hofmann place. Are they all included in the same investigation of the Truck Stop Games company?
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Post by shoreman on May 14, 2007 11:15:54 GMT -4
The "Triple T" truck stop in Centreville is one of the three truck stops included in the case that is owned by the VA company. It was raided along with the other truck stops at the same time by our Sheriff's Department with the new sheriff present.
The raid was conducted with the Fed's and State Police and the Sheriff on this case.
How and the world Hofmann could take money from these people, knowing they were under federal investigation, put several of his biggest campaign signs up and take at least $1,000 dollars from them after the raid is beyond me.
Of course if you read back in our forums, you will see how his backers tried to spin this like we were all making this up. Innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply here, his own agency raided the place and he knew they were still under investigation!
Like I said, he has ZERO credibility with me a lot of other people that really know how he operates.
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Post by Mike on May 14, 2007 11:48:12 GMT -4
sarahj, anywhere besides Stevenville/Chester is good
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Post by Same Deputy on May 14, 2007 16:50:58 GMT -4
The "Triple T" truck stop in Centreville is one of the three truck stops included in the case that is owned by the VA company. It was raided along with the other truck stops at the same time by our Sheriff's Department with the new sheriff present. The raid was conducted with the Fed's and State Police and the Sheriff on this case. How and the world Hofmann could take money from these people, knowing they were under federal investigation, put several of his biggest campaign signs up and take at least $1,000 dollars from them after the raid is beyond me. Of course if you read back in our forums, you will see how his backers tried to spin this like we were all making this up. Innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply here, his own agency raided the place and he knew they were still under investigation! Like I said, he has ZERO credibility with me a lot of other people that really know how he operates. Always the same old thing about the local law enforcement. If so many citizens dislike the current sheriff then why not go to meetings and convince the current county commissioners to form a county police department. I fully support a county police dept. separate from the sheriff's dept. That way you have accountability.
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Post by Mr Cloverfields on May 14, 2007 17:15:57 GMT -4
[Always the same old thing about the local law enforcement. If so many citizens dislike the current sheriff then why not go to meetings and convince the current county commissioners to form a county police department. I fully support a county police dept. separate from the sheriff's dept. That way you have accountability.[/quote]
Not to sound stupid or ignorant but I thought our sheriff's office was the county police force. Am I missing something with that. Call 911 and the deputy or state trooper arrives. How would having a county police force help solve the problems that currently exist within the sheriff's office. What is the difference between the the two agencies and how would a county police force benefit the citizens? If there is a big benefit to me, my family and not a huge price tag, then I'm for it.
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Post by shoreman on May 14, 2007 20:01:48 GMT -4
A Sheriff Department has the top person "the sheriff" elected or selected based on popularity and cannot be removed from office unless he is impeached by the State Senate. As a matter of fact, you don't even have to be a police officer to be Sheriff! The County Police is headed up by a Chief of Police who is selected based on his credentials. The biggest difference is that if you have a problem with the Sheriff, there is no relief for your problem. I'd bet that if you called any of the County Commissioners and asked them about the Sheriff taking money from a County business that was just found guilty and paid millions in fines, they'd tell you "Sorry, there is nothing we can do, he's elected". If you have a problem with the Chief of Police, you can address it through your elected officials who can call the Police Chief in on the carpet and get answers or be fired. The Sheriff in most large counties has a lot on his plate with Court security, serving civil and criminal warrants. That's why most of the larger counties have County Police Departments. If we were to go to a county police, the Commissioners would just take the money that is already allocated for the Sheriff with the exception of what would be needed for court security and warrant service and transfer it to a County Police Department. We're not talking about a lot of money to do this at all. It's all about accountability and unfortuantely, as in this case, we're stuck with "I know what your saying but there is nothing we can do". To tell you the truth, the whole thing is embarrasing.
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Post by falgar25 on May 14, 2007 20:26:39 GMT -4
... from a County business that was just found guilty and paid millions in fines, Read the article, pay attention to the details, then please give it a rest! There were over $6M in fines paid and at least one jet seized. I've been to the truck stop in Centreville; I don't believe they have over $6M to pay in fines and there's no place for them to have stored a jet. It was the parent company that was fined, not the people that run the local business. It was the people that run the local business that donated to the local campaign, not the parent company. I apologize to everyone else for mentioning the old article. I really did have good intentions.
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Post by shoreman on May 14, 2007 20:33:36 GMT -4
The problem is Falgar, is that he knew the company was under investigation (his own department was in the raid). It makes no difference that the manager of the truck stop gave the donation, the money all comes from the same pot. Even Stevie Wonder can see that a law enforcement officer does not take money from a person or business who is under investigation, particuarly his own department! Law enforcement is held to a higher standard. Splitting hairs isn't going to cut it in this case. The money should have never been taken and the campaign signs should have never been put up. If you look back at the earlier posts regarding this, Mr Hofmann and his supporters just put their noses up in the air at us and did as they pleased. It's the height of arrogance in my opinion.
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Post by Same Deputy on May 14, 2007 21:09:57 GMT -4
Shoreman is actually totally correct on the differences between a sheriff's office and a county police force. The deputies job is really the same as far as a patrol officer. The real advantage in my opinion to the citizens is with a police force there is a chief who is appointed by the five county commissioners. The chief answers to the commissioners and can be terminated any time. The chief then becomes accountable for there actions every day just as it should be.
The deputies/officers are expected to be accountable so why should it be any less when your on top. With a sheriff, he is the elected chief and answers to nobody but himself. Sure the sheriff of any county answers to the public but thats only once every four years during election time when they want your vote and tell you what you want to hear.
A sheriff of any county can do what they want, when they want and how they want and there is not a darn thing the county commissioners can do about it. That was the whole problem with the previous administration under former Sheriff Crossley. Crossley was a complete moron and a total embarrassment to law enforcement who had a tyrant for a chief deputy who most everybody hated. Yet the commissioners could not help solve the problems because they had no control over the sheriff. With a chief of police the problem would of been solved or he and the chief deputy would of been fired long ago. The citizens need to attend the commissioners meetings and tell them a county police force is needed and wanted. It's all about accountability. I think the current sheriff is doing a fine job but a county police force is needed for the betterment of the citizens.
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Post by Guest Deputy on May 17, 2007 22:05:56 GMT -4
Insider Fact, Feel Free to call the states attorney to verify, (or the attornet general, even the state police, Lt. Boardman)
TTT Truckstop was not charged nor paid any fines in the case. Second, They are not even related to Truckstop America Games from Virginia. Fact one TTT is owned by Indians, Ferrish the owner of the Amusement Company is white american.
TTT Truckstop, the indians, were only a business where Truckstop Games placed Amusement Gambling Games, white people, not even related. So, Shoreman, get the facts straight. Again, your not even factual, just a pot stirrer. (Sounds like you need some education, before you decide to educate)
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Post by shoreman on May 18, 2007 9:17:46 GMT -4
What part of the Fed's prosecuting the case and NOT the local state's attorney don't you understand?
Does that mean the that all of the Deputies that have been talking about how much money the Sheriff's Department is going to receive from this case are liars?
Tell Deputy Walters who was the lead investigator in the case and who worked with the Federal Prosecutor on this case that the truck stop is not the one involved.
Talk about more proof that your not really a Deputy......there it is
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Post by shadow1 on May 18, 2007 9:40:25 GMT -4
Guest Deputy - what the h*ll does race and/or ethnicity have to do with the subject Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! DAH!
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Post by shoreman on May 18, 2007 10:21:27 GMT -4
He's a piece of work isn't he
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Post by sarahj on May 18, 2007 21:08:51 GMT -4
Thanks for the reply everyone. I think we are going to pass on the centreville area!
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