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Post by outlaw on Jun 1, 2007 9:01:17 GMT -4
Local businesses knew what was here when they started. If they can't grow without a huge development, they are free to move to NJ and open up near a KHOV.
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Post by GUEST on Jun 1, 2007 9:21:41 GMT -4
Well said outlaw
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Post by matt on Jun 1, 2007 9:33:32 GMT -4
As Outlaw said, ya pays yer money and ya takes yer chances. I'm unwilling to sacrifice the environment my kids/grandkids/nieces/nephews will inherit to make a bigger profit today.
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Post by kl on Jun 1, 2007 9:43:47 GMT -4
Hear, hear Outlaw. The business' have been making a living before KHOV , and will continue to do so. With or without KHOV. And if Jersey doesn't suit them, there's plenty KHOV developments in Virginia.
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Post by bchevy on Jun 1, 2007 10:17:24 GMT -4
So how many Four Seasons, HKOV, threads do we need?
I hope it's dead, but probably not, they just haven't lined the RIGHT pockets yet.
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Post by matt on Jun 1, 2007 11:01:54 GMT -4
I hear you bchevy; on the other hand, this is (perhaps?) a subject on which a continued press is appropriate. People (sheeple) tend to forget quickly - keeping it fresh, even if ad nauseum, will help keep people involved when KH comes back with another barrel of bunk to sell.
KHov has the money to spend the time waiting for conditions to ripen again - such as when people vote in other fools without considering their stance on developments. And then they start again.
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Post by ljp on Jun 1, 2007 12:17:27 GMT -4
From what I understand from the reps at KHov, they have already dumped a boatload into this project/ county. I can't imagine that they would walk away just yet.
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Post by Mike on Jun 1, 2007 12:19:00 GMT -4
I was on "The Island" the other day, i must say that place by Extra Mart looks nice... with the hills and trees and stuff. It made "the island" look nice. Not just flat and ugly... with ugly souls of the people that live there.
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Post by qacbuzzard on Jun 2, 2007 6:58:31 GMT -4
So how many Four Seasons, HKOV, threads do we need? I hope it's dead, but probably not, they just haven't lined the RIGHT pockets yet. It's not dead yet. The Board of Public Works decision has been appealed. See www.qacbuzz.com for details.
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Post by guest on Jun 2, 2007 11:03:35 GMT -4
When you children,etc. cannot afford to live here because they've got to raise the taxes even further on existing homes. And the county cannot afford to pay teachers because they are fighting over nonsense and paying court costs and our kids cannot go to college, because they aren't prepared by sub-par schools. And the existing infrastructure is withering away and dumping more sewage into the bay. And there are no jobs in the area your kids may not want to be here or afford it.
A huge farm right on the water that is being actively farmed and fertilized is a bigger cause of pollution than a community of old people. The DRRA is a cash cow to the county that solved many problems. The tiny little piece of wetlands that was going to be an issue may what, displace the white swan that the state disposes of anyway. This is a poor county we need jobs for the young, we need relief for the elderly, tax wise, we need upgrades of infrastructure and road. We need to PAY THE TEACHERS. Fighting development is not the way to do it.
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Post by jake on Jun 2, 2007 12:11:55 GMT -4
Gee whiz Mr. Rogers, we dumb Kent Island folk had no idea Four Seasons was going to fix all our problems. Thank you Mr. Rogers (guest) for enlightening us!! Four Seasons will be just 'a wonderful day in the neighborhood, a wonderful day for our neighborhood'; golly, thanks for trying to save us!
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Post by bchevy on Jun 3, 2007 9:57:49 GMT -4
When you children,etc. cannot afford to live here because they've got to raise the taxes even further on existing homes. And the county cannot afford to pay teachers because they are fighting over nonsense and paying court costs and our kids cannot go to college, because they aren't prepared by sub-par schools. And the existing infrastructure is withering away and dumping more sewage into the bay. And there are no jobs in the area your kids may not want to be here or afford it. A huge farm right on the water that is being actively farmed and fertilized is a bigger cause of pollution than a community of old people. The DRRA is a cash cow to the county that solved many problems. The tiny little piece of wetlands that was going to be an issue may what, displace the white swan that the state disposes of anyway. This is a poor county we need jobs for the young, we need relief for the elderly, tax wise, we need upgrades of infrastructure and road. We need to PAY THE TEACHERS. Fighting development is not the way to do it. NONSENSE?: Why even have rules then? FARMS: Wow, you've swallowed the whole load, Bait, hook, line, and sinker. I can promise you that the Harry Homeowners fertilizing their grass lawns pollute a whole lot more than a farmer. His fertilizer cost comes right off his bottom line at the beginning of the season, he's not going to- or probably even allowed to use any more than the crops need. Can you say that for the homeowners? thought not. give me a big farm ANYWHERE instead the the monstrosity that HKOV builds. poor county? Jobs? what's that go to do with HKOV? All they will dp is build their junk and move on, they couldn't give a rat's BUTT about QA County Tiny pieces of wetlands ADD UP and way too much has gone away already....
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Post by native on Jun 3, 2007 14:12:59 GMT -4
I guess all of the senior citizens that are going to move into those 1200 homes are going to provide jobs also. I don't quite grasp where your coming from Mr. Rogers (guest) but I can make a good assumption on where you are from.
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Post by bchevy on Jun 3, 2007 17:03:05 GMT -4
I don't quite grasp where your coming from Mr. Rogers (guest) but I can make a good assumption on where you are from. HA! ;D
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Post by outlaw on Jun 4, 2007 11:01:48 GMT -4
I got a form e-mail today from Franchot about his very sensible decision to vote against giving KHOV a wetlands permit. Personally, I will remember this as long as he runs for office. Some interesting postings today on Sentinel Whispers - www.sentinelwhispers.com/
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Post by mikey on Jun 4, 2007 11:55:57 GMT -4
----------"we need upgrades of infrastructure and road."
What's wrong with our roads?
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Post by kl on Jun 7, 2007 7:59:30 GMT -4
It ain't over just yet. Looks like KHOV submitted a petition for a Judicial Review. Anybody smell Christopher Drummond on this one?
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Post by Brooke on Jun 7, 2007 8:32:23 GMT -4
I beached my boat last weekend on the only beach left on Kent Island where you can do that. It just happens to be on the property bordering the Four Seasons Site. A guy pulled up in a truck to come down and talk with my wife and I and he couldn't have been nicer. I can't remember his name off hand but he is the owner of Ebb Tide Tent Rentals and owned the building where the new CVS and bank are now. We talked for an hour about the future of this little beach and the surrounding lots that are being developed. He told me that he and his children spent 5 nights out of the week having dinner on the beach when they were kids and they grew up on here. My kids were playing in the sand and I guess it kind of made him miss those times but he enjoyed watching my kids have such a great time. He's the manager of the lot next to the Four Seasons that had been approved for 120 homes. The lot is 120 Acres and they are building a single house (Huge) on the lot for now. He seemed to know that you can't stop the growth but shared with me that he wouldn't travel West of the Bridge for a MILLION DOLLARS. We have to protect places like this. Chances are the beach will be private property and we won't be allowed to spend the day there. Everytime I'm there I always pick up trash and take it home with me to leave it a little bit nicer for the next time. It's a shame that the rich get richer and the signs go up to keep out the little man.
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Post by outlaw on Jun 7, 2007 11:11:49 GMT -4
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Post by matt on Jun 7, 2007 12:20:38 GMT -4
...nevermind...
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Post by moosie on Jun 28, 2007 18:40:02 GMT -4
one of the arguments is that the development will bring new jobs. huh? please can't they leave ki alone for once. what is wrong with the rest of the county--especially for retirees, who don't need to commute to work. this place has been trashed so badly, by people who either don;t live here or who should no better.
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Post by kl on Jun 29, 2007 8:04:00 GMT -4
The new jobs would be in the construction part of the development, but those workers won't be local. And I would wonder if KHOV, would hire local eletrical companies, plumbing, excavating... And if the development is for 55 and older, how many are going to be still in the workforce? KHOV is just out to destroy the area.
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Post by matt on Jun 29, 2007 9:48:37 GMT -4
They're not out "to destroy the area" per se; rather, they're out to make a buck at the expense of the local area and environment.
I'm anti-KHov and 4 Seasons, but we do need to moderate our statements like these if we're maintain the validity of our arguments. Once we get into exagerations and wild claims, our arguments become dismissable.
No offense, kI; we agree. There're plenty of factual and common-sense arguments against this monstrosity.
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Post by moosie on Jun 29, 2007 11:26:49 GMT -4
alanr--nothing wrong with part 2 of what you said. part 1 is not related, tho. we need to clean up, AND we need to curb the growth drastically. we have not the room, the resources, the ability for nature to overcome the assaults, etc. i've been here 30 years, and have seen more than you about how harmful this all is.
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Post by highlander73 on Jun 29, 2007 11:27:04 GMT -4
I see what you are saying alan, but I'm not sure how building a subdevelopment gets rid of trash or used cars. You can do the latter as long as you have the county resources, which we would have if we did not have to fight battles to keep the subdevelopments from becoming as issue. Its a vicious cycle.
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