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Post by hisea on Mar 6, 2013 8:41:45 GMT -4
UPDATE II: School Offers Counseling for Students Troubled by Pastry-Gun Incident As you know if you have been following this dramatic story unfolding in Brooklyn Park, Maryland, seven-year-old Josh Welch has been suspended for two days after he allegedly fashioned his breakfast pastry into the shape of a gun. Did I say "dramatic"? I meant "stupid." The elementary school that was the scene of Josh's brutally harmless rampage sent students home Friday with a letter describing the incident as if it had actually been serious: Pretty sure that if your children are "troubled" by another kid biting a pastry into something that looks sort of like a gun and waving said pastry around, you have already failed as a parent. The two-day suspension indicates that the school considered this a "Level 3" violation, but exactly what part of the Code was in play is not clear. The letter suggests Josh disrupted the class, but the reference to "inappropriate gestures" involving food can only mean he was also charged with a pastry-based-weapons violation. The Code defines "other weapons" as: Dear Parents and Guardians: I am writing to let you know about an incident that occurred this morning in one of our classrooms and encourage you to discuss this matter with your child in a manner you deem most appropriate. During breakfast this morning, one of our students used food to make inappropriate gestures that disrupted the class. While no physical threats were made and no one [was] harmed, the student had to be removed from the classroom. * * * As you are aware, the ... Code of Student Conduct and appropriate consequences related to violations of the code are clearly spelled out in the Student Handbook, which was sent home during the first week of school and can be found on our website, www.aacps.org.... If your children express that they are troubled by today's incident, please talk with them and help them share their feelings. Our school counselor is available to meet with any students who have the need to do so next week. In general, please remind them of the importance of making good choices. www.loweringthebar.net/2013/03/update-ii-school-offers-counseling-for-students-troubled-by-pastry-gun-incident.htmlNOW THAT"S FUNNY!
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Post by Frank on Mar 6, 2013 9:57:53 GMT -4
On a more serious note, the Obama administration is considering banning the letter 'L' When the letter is turned sideways, it has a resemblance to a handgun. The administration plans to spend a trillion dollars to find a suitable replacement.
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Post by eileen on Mar 6, 2013 10:00:48 GMT -4
I NEED COUNSELING as a result of reading this and other equally ridiculous crap in the news.
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Post by freefallin on Mar 6, 2013 10:06:21 GMT -4
shhh Deep Sea! Don't let tomc see this! He and his gang will want to ban breakfast pastries from schools. They they will want to ban how many pastries are are allowed to be individually wrapped in an individual box. Then he will post statistics of how many illnesses are causes by consuming too many breakfast pastries while ignoring the fact that consuming too many other foods can cause someone to be much sicker than just breakfast pastries. Then he will post statistics of how breakfast pastries can be used maliciously and the damage caused to others rather than consuming them. He will demand that our rights to buy and consume breakfast pastries be removed by the government so such intolerable breakfast pastry induced perceived threats of school violence such as this never happen again.
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Post by cranky64 on Mar 6, 2013 10:23:06 GMT -4
The unfrosted varieties always traumatized me.
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Post by RobMoore on Mar 6, 2013 11:10:40 GMT -4
My French teacher made me think of activities that could lead to aids, and other nasty ailments.
Ban French in schools.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 11:20:02 GMT -4
When all these bans, zero tolerances or what ever other school things were being discussed.....where were the parents then to object to them and prevent them from being implemented? Don't all school systems have boards or something with parents and/or citizens on them, if this isn't something they deal with, what do they do?
We don't have kids, so this area is a little fuzzy to me.
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Post by falgar25 on Mar 6, 2013 11:30:32 GMT -4
When all these bans, zero tolerances or what ever other school things were being discussed.....where were the parents then to object to them and prevent them from being implemented? Don't all school systems have boards or something with parents and/or citizens on them, if this isn't something they deal with, what do they do? We don't have kids, so this area is a little fuzzy to me. I suspect the parents who disagree with the rules were not aware that the rules were being discussed. Why would a parent think they needed to go to a school meeting to learn about the dangers of breakfast pastries? Parents, all parents, should be able to trust the school administrators. They shouldn't have to deal with their children being suspended, or emotional counseling, over breakfast pastries. Unfortunately, while they should not have to deal with these things, it is apparent that they do.
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Post by jetskibrat on Mar 6, 2013 12:00:01 GMT -4
I NEED COUNSELING as a result of reading this and other equally ridiculous crap in the news. aint that the truth me too
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Post by hisea on Mar 6, 2013 19:04:33 GMT -4
Truck jackknifed on the WB span of the bay bridge. Local swat teams have the truck surrounded! Truck came to a rest looking like a gun........? Officials say it's the trucks move? Could get ugly.
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Post by hisea on Mar 12, 2013 7:35:10 GMT -4
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Post by hisea on Mar 21, 2013 6:08:40 GMT -4
DAD: THIS PICTURE OF MY SON HOLDING A GUN TRIGGERED A VISIT FROM NJ POLICE, FAMILY SERVICES The young man in the photo is the 11-yr-old son of Shawn Moore. The gun is a .22 rifle, a copy of the AR-15, but a 22 caliber. The photo was posted on Facebook by a proud father. That Facebook posting apparently triggered an anonymous call to New Jersey’s Department of Youth and Family Services (DYFS). On Friday night, March 15th, two representatives from the state’s social services office (along with four local police officers) came to the Moore home and demanded to see the family’s firearms. According to Moore’s lawyer, Evan Nappen (an attorney with considerable expertise in NJ’s very strict gun laws), the situation was “outrageous.” Here’s what Moore alleges on the Delaware open carry forum: NJ’s Department of Youth and Family Services (DYFS) came to his home, accompanied by police officers. They claimed to be responding to a call about a photo of a young boy holding a firearm. (photo above) Without a search warrant, DYFS demanded entry into Moore’s home and access to all of his firearms. Moore was not initially there, but his wife called him. With his lawyer listening to the exchange on the phone with police and DFYS, Moore denied entry to his home and access to his safe where he stores his guns. When Moore requested the name of the DFYS representative, she refused to give it to him. After threatening to “take my kids,” the police and Family Services worker left — “empty handed and seeing nothing.” www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/19/dad-this-picture-of-my-son-holding-a-gun-triggered-a-visit-from-nj-police-family-services/
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Post by RobMoore on Mar 21, 2013 7:26:52 GMT -4
I think I'd be cleaning out my Facebook friends list of any and all known liberals after an incident like that, and if it wasn't already, set the privacy of my photos to "friends only". Oh, PS: I don't believe this gentlemen is related to me, but he sounds like he could be kin
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Post by freefallin on Mar 21, 2013 12:29:21 GMT -4
I like that saying that we pro gun/2A use "Come and take them...!"
I think every gun owner with a responsible child that has passed their hunter safety course should post a pic like this on their FB page. I am proud of that man and moreso his son for standing up for their rights against a liberal and oppresive nanny state government and see how they back down when you tout your rights which they can't take away.
By the way Rob, seems like my kin folk too!
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Post by emsguru on Mar 21, 2013 12:37:51 GMT -4
I agree that if someone complains about possible abuse or dangerous situations for children it should be investigated. But I not sure how I feel about people who make false claims, or accuse someone of being negligent when they have no knowledge, or facts to back up the claim and nothing can be done to them.
I could easily call the child welfare office on just about anyone and just say "its not safe for kids there" and you'll receive a visit.
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Post by einebierbitte on Mar 21, 2013 13:05:49 GMT -4
There lies the problem....... Too many people are wasting CWO all over with false allegations... kids too... There was a case recently about a family going thru the divorce and the mother had the kids lie to child services and say the dad molested them.... It wasn't until 5 years later that the kids claimed they lied because they were scared of their mother... yet....this man lost everything....
Another situation a kid didn't like the fact that the parents wouldn't let her go to a high school dance, stating that 13 years old she was too young, and didn't care that her friends were going...she went to school and told the authorities that her parents beat and mistreated her... both parents were arrested at work later that day.... it wasn't till after a full scale investigation and humiliation that the kid admitted she lied and why.
Then you got your nosy neighbors who think they see something and they make the call and the next thing you know your life is turned upside down...
Definately have a broke system......
And all this about kids not being able to play make believe games or draw or do anything is absolutely ridiculous....
We are turning into a country of baffoons!!
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Post by Frank on Mar 21, 2013 13:42:38 GMT -4
I agree that if someone complains about possible abuse or dangerous situations for children it should be investigated. But I not sure how I feel about people who make false claims, or accuse someone of being negligent when they have no knowledge, or facts to back up the claim and nothing can be done to them. I could easily call the child welfare office on just about anyone and just say "its not safe for kids there" and you'll receive a visit.
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Post by RobMoore on Mar 21, 2013 14:01:46 GMT -4
This sort of thing is the result of a culture that fosters an acceptance of everyone's opinion as valid.
No, not everyone has a valid opinion. Some people are just wrong. For instance, anyone who thinks taking a picture of an 11 year old holding a firearm is child abuse is wrong.
For you non-gun people, this is the equivalent of ratting your Facebook friend out to child protective services because they posted a pic of little Johnny in his peewee football uniform because you think football is a dangerous activity and Johnny needs to be saved from his negligent parents.
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Post by bluecrabber on Mar 21, 2013 17:13:57 GMT -4
This sort of thing is the result of a culture that fosters an acceptance of everyone's opinion as valid. . This comment reminded me of an event that I witnessed about a year ago.. It is a great example of how stupid we have become.. I was in line at Dunkin Donuts behind a guy with three toddlers. He was trying to order a dozen donuts.. There were several other people in line behind me. One person working the counter. This guy kept asking each kid what kind of donut they wanted. As you can imagine, the kids could not make up their minds and when they did, they changed it as soon as the next kid ordered a different kind.. The whole debacle turned into a couple of them throwing fits and this guy still changing over and over his order for a dozen donuts.. Can you say ridiculous?? When was it we started allowing 3-4 year olds to have any say in what kind of donut they get? Or what they get to eat for dinner? Or where the family goes out to eat? etc.. I remember telling my kids they don't get to vote until they are 18. Sure is an epidemic of stupid going around..
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Post by mongrel on Mar 23, 2013 16:50:32 GMT -4
I guess they should ban bananas too! At least the semi-automatic variety!
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Post by RobMoore on Mar 23, 2013 21:34:16 GMT -4
..... Attachments:
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Post by mongrel on Apr 14, 2013 18:12:00 GMT -4
I was traumatized at an early age when a classmate of mine aimed a hot dog at me. I should have sued their parents for all the therapy sesions I had to attend! :-)
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Post by hisea on Apr 23, 2013 8:19:53 GMT -4
Student reportedly arrested, suspended after argument with teacher over NRA shirt A West Virginia eighth-grader student has been charged with causing a disruption at his middle school after he refused to remove an NRA T-shirt that he wore. The teenager was reportedly arrested and suspended last week after getting into an argument with his teacher about a National Rifle Association T-shirt he wore to school. WOWK-TV reports that Jared Marcum faces charges of obstruction and disturbing the education process for refusing to change the shirt, which shows a rifle and the slogan, "protect your right." Jared told the station the he was punished by officials at Logan Middle School after arguing about the shirt with his teacher, who reportedly objected to the image of the gun on the shirt. "What they're doing is trying to take away my rights, my freedom of speech and my Second Amendment," Jared told the station. Read more: www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/21/student-reportedly-arrested-suspended-after-argument-over-nra-shirt/?intcmp=trending#ixzz2RHwQlqKB
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Post by cranky64 on Apr 24, 2013 10:34:59 GMT -4
Don't let them take these to school ether. Might put the cafeteria on lockdown. Attachments:
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Post by bluecrabber on Apr 24, 2013 10:45:17 GMT -4
I was traumatized at an early age when a classmate of mine aimed a hot dog at me. I should have sued their parents for all the therapy sesions I had to attend! :-) I was also traumatized one day eating lunch in the cafeteria and watching a young lady eat an ice cream cone.. YIKES!! Forum decorum prohibits me from describing what she was doing to the cone..
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