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Post by deepsea on Nov 17, 2015 8:17:34 GMT -4
In spite of the dangers of allowing terrorist into the country obama aka barry soetoro said “When I hear folks say that, well, maybe we should just admit the Christians but not the Muslims, when I hear political leaders suggesting that there would be a religious test for which person who’s fleeing from a war-torn country is admitted, when some of those folks themselves come from families who benefited from protection when they were fleeing political persecution, that’s shameful,” the President added Well the main job of the president is to protect the American People. I say keep them out.
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Post by frankf on Nov 17, 2015 15:35:38 GMT -4
...and doing exactly what ISIS had planned. Recruitment to ISIS by way of US policy.
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Post by deepsea on Nov 17, 2015 17:04:37 GMT -4
...and doing exactly what ISIS had planned. Recruitment to ISIS by way of US policy. It doesn't matter what the United States does or doesn't do ISIS will do what the Koran tells them to do and that is to smite you at your neck. Tired of the commander in chief placating these extremists almost like he's helping them. Remember what Obama said "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in a ugly direction.
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Post by kiboater on Nov 17, 2015 17:58:09 GMT -4
...and doing exactly what ISIS had planned. Recruitment to ISIS by way of US policy. Curious to know your solution. Is it acceptable to have these attacks? Do we need to be nicer to the terrorists? If we let more of them into the US would we have fewer attacks?
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Post by deepsea on Nov 18, 2015 7:52:15 GMT -4
...and doing exactly what ISIS had planned. Recruitment to ISIS by way of US policy. You sound just like obama "ISIL seeks to exploit the idea that there is a war between Islam and the West," he continued. "And when you start seeing individuals in positions of responsibility suggesting that Christians are more worthy of protection than Muslims are in a war-torn land, that feeds the ISIL narrative. It's counterproductive, and it needs to stop." I blame the koran- Sura 47:4, “When you meet those who disbelieve, smite them at their necks.” corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=47&verse=4Do you think obama is placating or complicit? Remember what obama had in his book, I will stand with the Muslims should the Political winds shift in an ugly direction.
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Post by frankf on Nov 18, 2015 9:23:52 GMT -4
All of the attackers identified so far were European nationals. NONE were Syrians. Now of course logic is a difficult concept for fearful conservatives, but if these Syrians loved ISIS so much, they wouldn't be refugees.
By turning away the refugees you're playing right into ISIS' game plan. Now they can point and say that this is an attack on Islam. Those people don't care about you.
And if you follow the logic of all muslims are terroirists, you must ascribe by the theory all christians are KKK members.
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Post by deepsea on Nov 18, 2015 13:54:16 GMT -4
So...... What your saying is if we don't let in these refugees in, Isis/islam will not be happy and might out of anger attack the United States because we didn't do what they wanted? I believe that's called being help hostage.
No one said all Muslim are terrorist but the French Muslims had a rally last night and I believe 30 Muslims showed up. Not a bad turnout for 5 million muslims in France.
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Post by Frank on Nov 19, 2015 11:45:39 GMT -4
I think it is ridiculus that Obama says Republicans are against widows and orphans coming into this country. What an a$$hole! This is not mothers and orphans coming to our country! These are grown men, fighting age, and do not like the principles we stand for. Once elected, the president is supposed to protect all the citizens of the United States, not just himself or his party. He is not the president of his party anymore. He is the president of our united country, Republicans and Democrats alike. He needs to listen to all the people, not just his party or special interest groups. Five Syrians were caught the other day in Honduras with fake passports, eight more were caught at the Laredo border. It's just a matter of time. btw; Didn't the first woman involved blow herself and her buddies up? Where exactly are these widows and orphans again?
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Post by kidoode on Nov 22, 2015 8:47:40 GMT -4
And once again it is proven that the deep sea yields a Dumb Bass.
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Post by frankf on Nov 22, 2015 11:52:35 GMT -4
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Post by frankf on Nov 22, 2015 16:06:55 GMT -4
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Post by georgej202 on Nov 23, 2015 23:53:01 GMT -4
You acre truly an unimformed ass with his head stuck in the mud and believe this is a souther republican thing?
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Post by frankf on Nov 24, 2015 7:21:19 GMT -4
You acre truly an unimformed ass with his head stuck in the mud and believe this is a souther republican thing? So. Nothing to say huh?
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Post by Frank on Nov 24, 2015 9:26:21 GMT -4
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Post by deepsea on Nov 24, 2015 11:10:27 GMT -4
The immigrants in France are allowed to have dual citizenship they don't have to denounce their country of origin. The terror mastermind had ties to Syria as did a few other of the attackers.
Most of all its not about immigrants its about security. The Presidents primary job is to protect the American people not to poke and mock his opponents. The President has show us that he doesn't have a grasp on what is going on in the world with ISIS. The morning of the Paris attacks Obama asserted that ISIS was not gaining strength and that “we have contained them.” Today Americans have been issued a warning by our State Dept. Worldwide travel alert over terror threats so I don't know about anyone else but I don't think the Obama Admin has a clue.
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Post by deepsea on Nov 25, 2015 9:16:16 GMT -4
Sen. Sessions Reveals 12 Refugee-Jihadis Charged this Year, Hopes to Shrink Obama’s 2016 Refugee Budget. Many of the jihad attempts in the United States are launched by the children of Muslim refugees and migrants. That list include the two Chechen brothers who bombed the Boston Marathon, and Anwar al-Awlaki who was killed by a U.S missile strike when he fled to Yemen after the 9/11 atrocity. That means the Americans’ federal government is actively importing national-security problems that will eventually cost billions of dollars to manage, but cannot be eliminated. Lets hope that obama teaches the terrorist a lesson at the Climate Change Summit. Maybe a powerful rebuke.
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Post by frankf on Nov 25, 2015 15:10:40 GMT -4
The Boston Bombers were not refugees. They entered the US on tourist visas. Much like student visas they are very easy to get. Refugees enter through an exhaustive process that lasts from 18 to 24 months to process.
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Post by deepsea on Nov 27, 2015 18:29:10 GMT -4
Parents came to United States on a tourist visa and once here asked for asylum. They received asylum and sent for their kids who once here were given asylum. So they were refugees. a·sy·lum əˈsīləm/Submit noun 1. the protection granted by a nation to someone who has left their native country as a political refugee.
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Post by dennis77 on Nov 29, 2015 16:17:56 GMT -4
As we saw yesterday, we're more at risk from rightwing extremists than from refugees. Conservative rhetoric radicalizes people already in the country, no need to bring them in from elsewhere.
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Post by deepsea on Nov 30, 2015 7:51:45 GMT -4
As we saw yesterday, we're more at risk from rightwing extremists than from refugees. Conservative rhetoric radicalizes people already in the country, no need to bring them in from elsewhere. Murder is murder no matter who the killer(s) is/are. It is strange that a man starts shooting and killing people at a abortion clinic were murder is already being preformed multiple times a day. Then selling those murdered babies for a profit? Can't defend evil. dennis77 call it what you want but I believe its a right, Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
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Post by deepsea on Dec 5, 2015 16:51:49 GMT -4
As we saw yesterday, we're more at risk from rightwing extremists than from refugees. Conservative rhetoric radicalizes people already in the country, no need to bring them in from elsewhere. Call that one didn't you? LOL Just waited a few days and your proven wrong!
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Post by barnaclebill on Dec 7, 2015 8:28:03 GMT -4
dennis77 call it what you want but I believe its a right, Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Still can't yell fire in a crowded movie theatre.
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Post by deepsea on Dec 8, 2015 21:15:21 GMT -4
dennis77 call it what you want but I believe its a right, Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Still can't yell fire in a crowded movie theatre. But if the building across the street was on fire you would be careful to make sure it didn't spread to the movie theatre.
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Post by barnaclebill on Dec 9, 2015 5:33:27 GMT -4
Still can't yell fire in a crowded movie theatre. But if the building across the street was on fire you would be careful to make sure it didn't spread to the movie theatre. By dousing the entire block with petrol? Whatever happened to "speak softly and carry a big stick?" But that wouldn't get you airtime that Trump is getting now. To get on topic...Syria is a meatgrinder...the stage for the 21st century Great Game. I say have mercy on some of the poor, carefully vetted bastards and let them in.
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Post by falgar25 on Dec 9, 2015 7:22:19 GMT -4
But if the building across the street was on fire you would be careful to make sure it didn't spread to the movie theatre. By dousing the entire block with petrol? Whatever happened to "speak softly and carry a big stick?" But that wouldn't get you airtime that Trump is getting now. To get on topic...Syria is a meatgrinder...the stage for the 21st century Great Game. I say have mercy on some of the poor, carefully vetted bastards and let them in. I absolutely agree, but what will this vetting process be? The one we have now has failed us at least twice since the 9/11 attacks. It is said that DHS and the rest of national security has to be right 100% of the time but the terrorists only need to be right once. They had once on 9/11, again in Boston, and now a third time in San Bernardino. The current vetting process isn't working well enough with the normal level of immigrants, how will it be stand up when it has to deal with an influx of refugees?
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