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Post by beeman as a guest on Oct 24, 2007 21:12:19 GMT -4
OMG we went back again today and we were within sight of the buildings, and behind us, maybe 50 yards in the woods we heard a freaking bloodcurdling scream. It was so freaky i am not going back there for a LONG time now
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Post by Mike on Oct 25, 2007 4:48:48 GMT -4
When scared raccoons make that noise you speak of... stop trespassing
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Post by bluecrabber on Oct 26, 2007 21:24:52 GMT -4
This is an interesting thread. I just discovered this website today.. I have seen the fenced in area you seem to be talking about. Don't you think it a little stupid in this day and age to be trespassing on a fenced in govt facility? The camo clad guy who told you to get out was likely a federal police officer. They all seem to wear tactical clothes these days. Be glad telling you to leave is all that happened. I would think if they find you in the wrong place, you might be spending a little time talking to the authorities.
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Post by sukietawdry on Feb 4, 2008 16:01:04 GMT -4
Hmm, I find the State Highway explanation for the "trailer park" slightly suspect. Doesn't quack like an SHA site. To the question about antenna knowlege...KA3WKA, "coded" tech. Only got it to play with ATV in the 70 and 33 cm bands. Fly-by-video r/c models and such. Mt. Weather, Upperville, Berryville, Ft. Meade, Aberdeen, NAS Pax River, NOLF Webster, Dalgren, Wallops, Detrick, MITRE, NRL...this area is lousy with "spooky" and "techy" places. Probably not as much fun for spectators as some of the dessert sites, though. Infrequent poster, but there you go.
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Post by intheknow on Feb 24, 2008 5:29:16 GMT -4
Hmm, I find the State Highway explanation for the "trailer park" slightly suspect. Doesn't quack like an SHA site. To the question about antenna knowlege...KA3WKA, "coded" tech. Only got it to play with ATV in the 70 and 33 cm bands. Fly-by-video r/c models and such. Mt. Weather, Upperville, Berryville, Ft. Meade, Aberdeen, NAS Pax River, NOLF Webster, Dalgren, Wallops, Detrick, MITRE, NRL...this area is lousy with "spooky" and "techy" places. Probably not as much fun for spectators as some of the dessert sites, though. Infrequent poster, but there you go. YWS\MITRE CORP EVIL
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Post by Ann on Feb 24, 2008 20:57:11 GMT -4
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Post by gpsoffjan17 on Feb 24, 2008 21:15:43 GMT -4
This is an interesting thread. I just discovered this website today.. I have seen the fenced in area you seem to be talking about. Don't you think it a little stupid in this day and age to be trespassing on a fenced in govt facility? The camo clad guy who told you to get out was likely a federal police officer. They all seem to wear tactical clothes these days. Be glad telling you to leave is all that happened. I would think if they find you in the wrong place, you might be spending a little time talking to the authorities. You would be amazed at how many people have lived on Kent Island all their lives and they do not even know it is there. Lots of people know it is there but they do not know what it is.
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Post by shorti on Feb 25, 2008 9:31:24 GMT -4
oh man oh man!!! this was started a year & 1/2 ago - holy cow!!!
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Post by deputy on Feb 25, 2008 9:37:08 GMT -4
WTH!! This is just weird-can't we just delete this post? It's oooooold news. I think by the yawns and snores, i'm not the only one who may think this. Nah, it's part of KI.
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Post by native on Apr 26, 2008 17:10:05 GMT -4
Does anyone have any updated info for this thread?
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Post by barney on Apr 26, 2008 17:15:58 GMT -4
Google it. There's a ton of information about it.
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Post by native on Apr 26, 2008 17:22:18 GMT -4
I was one of the creators of this thread so I know enough about it; I was just wondering is anyone had any new stories to tell. Please don't take my first sentence the wrong way. I am not trying to say I know everything but I have done much research on the NSA property. If anyone else would like to talk privately about it, send me a message.
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Post by rudyhayesforever on Mar 7, 2009 3:40:42 GMT -4
BRINGIN' IT BACK! Thanks, KICarpenter!
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Post by mikerobe on Mar 8, 2009 20:52:22 GMT -4
My wife and I went by the area just West of 404, and when we went onto the dirt road we soon came across a sign that said "Nail Traps" and in smaller letters below it the sign read "Cameras in Trails". That doesn't sound like the State Highway Administration to me. It could be a contractor storing trailers and protecting his items, or it could be something else entirely.
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Post by jetdoc on Mar 10, 2009 22:53:05 GMT -4
Same sign is right of Mason Branch road off of 304. Nail Trap is on a wook sign. Its on farm land and probably just a deterrent for would be hunters/4wheelers
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Post by Mike on Sept 14, 2009 18:35:03 GMT -4
Now that Native is back, anyone have anything new to report?
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Post by native on Sept 14, 2009 20:54:21 GMT -4
Ha thanks Mike. That would be nice to hear any new news.
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Post by RobMoore on Sept 14, 2009 21:55:17 GMT -4
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Post by msaurus23 on Dec 31, 2014 11:00:28 GMT -4
Ok, so I know that this is five years since the last post on this thread, but I've been fascinated by this government property since I was a child. My dad was also raised on the island and told me that when he was a teenager he climbed one of the towers to get a good picture of the surrounding area (he was really into photography). I don't remember for a fact, but I think he later mentioned having his camera and film confiscated. As an adult, he joined the Navy and had a buddy there who "went really pale and acted very secretive" when Dad told him he was from KI...weird, right? This friend apparently disclosed some information, but very little, to my father and when I ask him about it he refuses to talk to me and changes the subject.
I am also curious about Berryville being mentioned? What goes on out there?? I currently work at a factory in Berryville, so I am certainly curious!
Thanks guys!
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Post by cranky64 on Dec 31, 2014 17:06:48 GMT -4
Holy New Years resurrection Batman!
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Post by sharon on Jan 5, 2015 20:09:01 GMT -4
NO dont delete this thread. Ive lived out here for 13 yrs now & have been on & off KIO & this is the 1st time Ive seen this. I want to read all the crazy posts. Something different (at least I hope) then the usual bickering.................Happy New Year by the by to everyone. Hope it was a good start for everyone.
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Post by msaurus23 on Jan 6, 2015 9:25:33 GMT -4
There are certainly some interesting things floating around on here!! A lot of what-ifs and one big fat government cover....does anyone really believe that it's just an old intercept center? The whole thing about only having one employee is blatant crap...
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Post by alanr on Jan 6, 2015 9:59:06 GMT -4
Warning this is going to be long. REPRINT>>>>
Funny how one can drive by that place and barely give it notice. It wasn't until it I saw the movie "Enemy of the State" with Gene Hackman and "Will Smith" that I first noticed it. It appears in the beginning of the movie and is called the "Kent Island Intercept Station" in the film.
I did some research on the place and these are the relevant excerpts:
From an NSA history timeline: 1961 - The NSA opened Joint Processing Centers in Okinawa and Frankfurt West Germany and Kunia Hawaii, and built the Kent Island Research Facility on Cox Neck Road on Kent Island in Chesapeake Bay. The NSA provided intercepts and information on organized crime to Attorney General Robert Kennedy's Organized Crime Section, and provided information about Cuba to the FBI. The Karamursel post monitored voice of Yuru Gagarin during his April 12 flight on Vostok 1 rocket. --------------------- James Bamford writes in The Puzzle Palace: Inside the National Security Agency, America's Most Secret Intelligence Organization, Penguin, 1982, (paper) pp. 230-31:
Although some microwave testing may be done by engineers in NSA research and development spaces in the floors below the big white golf ball at FANX, most of it, apparently, is conducted in the utmost secrecy at a mosquito-filled swamp on Kent Island in the Chesapeake Bay.
Using the Army Corps of Engineers as a go-between, the NSA in January 1961 negotiated a five-year lease for the 210 acres on Cox Neck Road with the Diamond Construction Company of Savannah, Georgia, at a rent of $4500 per year. Four years later, on February 24, 1965, the NSA executed its option and purchased the site for $48,500.
Considered a "classified facility" by NSA, the location consists of a one-story, white, windowless NSA Propagation Research Laboratory, which houses between $250,000 and $350,000 worth of automatically operating, unattended equipment. Also on the site is a small, white, cinder-block control building inside a barbedwire-topped chain-link fence. Near the control building are a number of unusual antennas. One is an awkward-looking radio direction finder -- a large, steerable, rectangular antenna resting on top of an air-conditioned, windowed control room raised one story above the ground. Another appears to be a satellite transmitting antenna built atop a two-story platform. Others are a round, white radome raised about a dozen feet above the ground; a high-frequency, broadband, rotatable log-periodic antenna on top of a seven-story tower with a small, dish-shaped microwave parabolic reflector at its base; a low-frequency long wire antenna;, numerous high-frequency antennas atop sixty-foot telephone poles; and, finally, what seem to be several microwave horn radiator antennas resting on the ground inside the fence and, apparently, another horn-type antenna on top of another seven-story tower.
Known within the R and E spaces of the Puzzle Palace as the Kent Island Research Facility, its purpose was explained by former NSA deputy director Louis Tordella during a closed-door hearing before a Senate subcommittee. The Agency established the facility, said Tordella, "for the conduct of research and evaluations on very-high-frequency and microwave antenna systems. These systems are peculiar to the Agency's mission. The area utilized to conduct this type of research and evaluation must have a low radio noise interference level. The types of antennas used in these systems require a wide, unobstructed view of the horizon. The size of the Kent Island tract (210 acres) is adequate to allow experimentation and development of several compatible projects simultaneously." More specifically, as Tordella elaborated at another time, "we are on Kent Island ... examining anomalous propagation effects and other peculiarities associated with our problem of intercept of communications....
Although the facility is largely automatic and unmanned, it does have one resident engineer, Harry (Link) George, a burly island resident. "I'm the chief and crew," George said when asked how many people work there, adding, "It's a crew of one." With regard to the owner of the, facility, however, all he would say was that it was part of the Department of Defense: "Anything other than that I can't say." ----------------------------- 1. A 31.34 acre tract which was formerly part of the Kent Island Facility is located between Cox Neck Road and Maryland Route 552, just south of the Town of Chester, Maryland. There are 178.66 acres fee and 0.16 of an acre easement of the Kent Island Facility currently active. The current owner [of the inactive portion] is the State of Maryland, Department of Natural Resources.
2. A tract containing 210 acres of fee land, and 0.16 acre of easement was conveyed to the United States of America by B. F. Diamond Construction Company, Inc., by deed dated 24 February 1965. This property was acquired for the National Security Agency for an antenna site and an access road subject to a graveyard reservation recorded in Liber SS[HASH]2, Folio 274, together with rights of ingress and egress to burial site.
3. A site visit conducted on 18 November 1988 revealed that the 31.34 acre parcel was utilized by the National Security Agency as a radar facility buffer zone. No structures or utilities were constructed on the site. DOD maintained control over the property during the period of DOD ownership. -------------------------------
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Post by msaurus23 on Jan 6, 2015 12:30:46 GMT -4
Alanr, I did read that the first time it was posted in the thread, but 1988 is a ways back. Do we have any solid information on it that is less than 26 years in old news? I've seen vehicles go back there as well as seeing them in a parking lot via satellite imaging, so I'm thinking that a one-man crew isn't the case anymore and that perhaps the facility has shied away from it's original purpose, as things tend to do over any length of time.
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Post by cruzincat on Jan 6, 2015 12:46:54 GMT -4
Interesting that, to the east across the creek there facility there has a building with poles in line with the center of the circle to the west. If you look closely the separation of the poles decreases slightly as they progress to the east. That would indicate an increase or decrease in frequency of whatever they were meant for.
And if you look closely at the most recent sat image, there appears to be a circular pattern present in the field to the south of the poles.
I'll bet our country's enemies know more about this place than we residents know.
Line of sight, but more than halfway around the world, is Beijing and Pyongyang in that direction. Probably meaningless conjecture on my part. When this started, neither country was any major threat to the US.
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