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Post by native on Jan 3, 2007 14:05:37 GMT -4
Since the two biggest threads right now are both about government, UFOs and ghosts I am very curious to see everyone's outlook on UFO's as a whole? Please post reasons what or why not. ;D
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Post by BlueMule on Jan 3, 2007 14:15:47 GMT -4
Paranormal phenomenon and extraterrestials (what a mouth full) have never been proven nor disproven so it's a toss up with me.
Like it or not, government ain't going away.
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Post by matt on Jan 3, 2007 14:20:16 GMT -4
Scientifically/statistically speaking, the only reason to believe there are no other forms of life "out there" is simple human egocentricity (is that a word? dunno, but it sure sounds good ). Given that space is theoretically infinite, then we aren't alone. Not that the "UFOs" seen around this old green and blue ball are alien.
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Post by Mike on Jan 3, 2007 14:44:04 GMT -4
UFO's: Yeah there is something out there Government UFO's: Top Secret Test Aircraft, mainly in the desert of Nevada and Arizona. Chester, MD UFO's: Nope The lights people see on Route 8 North over the bay: Commercial Aircraft in various landing patterns at BWI, Regan and Dulles and smaller Airport scattered throughout Maryland, DC, VA Any other Aircraft low over the area: 4 Words, Dover Air Force Base. 4 times daily there are chartered flights of 747's that fly into Dover that carry troops from the Mid West, to Dover and then to Germany. Dover is also home to the 436th Airlift Wing, which flies MASSIVE C-5 Galaxys Photo:
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Post by Frank on Jan 3, 2007 15:13:26 GMT -4
I don't believe we are alone in this universe, but I don't know if they come by to pay us a visit from time to time, poking and proding, or putting tracking devices in our heads. Millions of solar systems and billions of planets must produce other forms of life. I do believe however, our own government is far more advanced than they want us to know. They would rather have us believe in weather balloons or thinking UFO's rather than stepping up and admitting they are tinkering in areas they maybe shouldn't be. I also understand as far as national defense goes, you don't want to show your hand until you need to play those cards.
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Post by native on Jan 3, 2007 16:04:22 GMT -4
Does anybody ever watch the Discovery, History, National Geographic, Science channel, etc.? There are tons of really interesting shows on there about UFO's, aliens, government coverups, and so on. May change a few people's minds. I agree with Matt, with all of the space out there, it would be stupid to say that Earth is the only planet with life on it. NASA is constantly making new discoveries about Mars, remember, the basics to life, according to our physics, is water and air, and Mars has definitly had or still does have water.
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Post by native on Jan 3, 2007 16:43:47 GMT -4
I'd like to here some feedback from the ones that say " Hell no". Just curious why one would never even consider other life than us
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Post by andrewd on Jan 3, 2007 16:48:37 GMT -4
There might be life out there, but the chances of a planet having the conditions that we have seems pretty small. I think that there is probably plant life and single cell life, but not anything intelligent out there. We're a fluke in my humble opinion.
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Post by matt on Jan 3, 2007 17:00:45 GMT -4
I don't think we're a fluke. Simple reason: in the millions of years our planet's been inhabited, there have been thousands (millions?) of life forms of different types - some have gone extinct, and others have popped up. This is just one planet with (let's say) thousands of life forms. Given that our current version of physics is infantile and still evolving, there is NO logical reason to believe that with millions of systems and planets out there, not 1 - not a single, solitary 1 - other planet has managed to form something along the lines of "intelligent" life.
If there is plant life, then there will be animal life.
It's too simple to consider that the only thing we'd recognize is human-like animal life. What if we're bugs to what's out there? What if we're giant to them? The variables are infinite, and looking for something that looks much like ourselves is simply further egocentric behavior.
My guess? UFO sightings are doubtful, but something's out there, and it might look like the Easter Bunny or like the things from the Alien movies and be sh!t-yer-pants scary... or perhaps they'd be so big/small we wouldn't realize we were seeing them.
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Post by bchevy on Jan 3, 2007 18:35:07 GMT -4
I don't think we're a fluke. Simple reason: in the millions of years our planet's been inhabited, there have been thousands (millions?) of life forms of different types - some have gone extinct, and others have popped up. This is just one planet with (let's say) thousands of life forms. Given that our current version of physics is infantile and still evolving, there is NO logical reason to believe that with millions of systems and planets out there, not 1 - not a single, solitary 1 - other planet has managed to form something along the lines of "intelligent" life. If there is plant life, then there will be animal life. It's too simple to consider that the only thing we'd recognize is human-like animal life. What if we're bugs to what's out there? What if we're giant to them? The variables are infinite, and looking for something that looks much like ourselves is simply further egocentric behavior. My guess? UFO sightings are doubtful, but something's out there, and it might look like the Easter Bunny or like the things from the Alien movies and be sh!t-yer-pants scary... or perhaps they'd be so big/small we wouldn't realize we were seeing them. Couldn't have said it any better myself.
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Post by native on Jan 3, 2007 21:21:43 GMT -4
I know I am getting way out there for some people but just think this through. Has anyone ever given a thought that maybe the human race is a test to see how we would develop, possible started by some other life not of this world. The Earth is estimated to be 4.6 billion years old and humans have only been around for a couple of thousand years. What was going on before we existed and how did we start. It has been proven that on cave drawings from the beginning of human life there are pictures of what look like alien spacecraft. Also consider pyramids; I know it is thought that ancient egyptians built them and it took many years to do, but I just don't agree with that. If humans were that technologically advanced in ???B.C. then why has it taken so long to build skyscrapers and touch the smallest regions of outer space. Maybe we had some help back then and maybe all of the UFO sightings are just check ups to see how we are developing. I know there are many theories on evolution and I am not saying I necessarily agree with the one I just typed but it is a thought. Earth really is just a grain of sand compared to the rest of outer space. And one day, about 4.5 billion years from now, Earth will be gone as well as our sun. What then?
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Post by native on Jan 3, 2007 21:22:38 GMT -4
By the way hows it been bchevy, long time no speak
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Post by bchevy on Jan 3, 2007 21:34:22 GMT -4
Has anyone ever given a thought that maybe the human race is a test to see how we would develop, possible started by some other life not of this world. quote] I've had similar thoughts, one was that we could be an ant farm on someone's table..... Yeah i know,,,,, I've stayed away from this one for a reason.....
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Post by Mike on Jan 3, 2007 21:35:02 GMT -4
Earth will be gone as well as our sun. What then? we'll all be dead and we won't know?
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Post by bchevy on Jan 3, 2007 21:35:09 GMT -4
By the way hows it been bchevy, long time no speak Been good Native, a little boring, but good.
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Post by native on Jan 3, 2007 23:26:48 GMT -4
Mike thats the part that bothers me. But at the same time I don't know if I would want to know.
I have also heard such theories as Earth is just an atom or cell in a larger objects body.
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Post by jake on Jan 4, 2007 0:54:26 GMT -4
I am more incline to believe these ufo's are from our future, time travelers coming back, doing research. I think "time travel" would be easier than traveling the hundreds or thousands of times the speed of light, which it would take to traverse the vastness of space. Time is an illusion created by gravity and mass; overcome these, it should be possible.
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Post by native on Jan 4, 2007 10:10:41 GMT -4
Jake, you make a good point. I have always been curious of black holes and whether or not they lead to the future, past, or a parallel universe. Hopefully I'll still be around when NASA finds out.
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Post by native on Jan 4, 2007 16:21:25 GMT -4
I still haven't seen any of the non-believers give a reason.
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Post by Frank on Jan 5, 2007 9:02:42 GMT -4
"Black Holes" will not lead to the past or future. Our solar system will become a black hole in about 4.5 billion years as our sun will eventually burn out and collapse. Scientists feel that "Worm Holes" could be a form of time travel, although the human body could not survive the journey.
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Post by native on Jan 5, 2007 9:54:12 GMT -4
If black holes are formed from a star dying then how are worm holes formed and what is the big difference.
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Post by BlueMule on Jan 5, 2007 12:05:49 GMT -4
In the instance of a black hole, once an object has traveled beyond the event horizon (fallen in) there is no escape because of the gravitational pull of the hole. Theoretically, a worm hole is a 'passage' in spacetime where there are two entrances connected by the passage. An object can pass through these and emerge on the other side.
As Einsteine said back in 1905, "Shucks dude, it's all relative."
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Post by shadow1 on Jan 7, 2007 18:38:40 GMT -4
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Post by bchevy on Jan 7, 2007 18:57:08 GMT -4
Scientists feel that "Worm Holes" could be a form of time travel, although the human body could not survive the journey. Theoretically of coarse, right?
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Post by native on Jan 10, 2007 12:19:50 GMT -4
FAA would say it is just some atmospheric phenomenon, how about a little more detail
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