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Post by funnel101 on Sept 17, 2009 14:41:55 GMT -4
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Post by shorti on Sept 17, 2009 14:50:14 GMT -4
not that i am condoning... but let's think about the logic here...
at age 14 - your hormones are CRAZY!!! and then they start to decline as you get older... that has nothing to do with being a sex offender does it really???
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Post by RobMoore on Sept 17, 2009 14:50:36 GMT -4
There definately needs to be a legal and distinct difference in the term used to describe a 40 year old who molests a 12 year old, and a 20 year old who has a 16 year old girlfriend. The latter is my eyes is not a Sex Offender. They aren't even in the same class.
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Post by shorti on Sept 17, 2009 14:59:20 GMT -4
i would agree robmoore... although I did this as a 16 year old... now as a parent i would wonder what the motives were for a 20 year old having interest in a 16 year old... and would keep a close eye if I allowed it... isn't it funny how your views change as you get older... oh man did I just admit i'm old? wait a minute!!!
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Post by funnel101 on Sept 17, 2009 15:08:54 GMT -4
I think the easiest thing would be to remove the sex-offender status from juveniles when they turn 18. Give them a fresh start.
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Post by shadow1 on Sept 17, 2009 15:42:34 GMT -4
I think the easiest thing would be to remove the sex-offender status from juveniles when they turn 18. Give them a fresh start. What if a 17 year old male molested an 8 year old female, would you still want to remove that status at 18 years old? Don't think so. I agree with RobMoore that the law needs to be better defined. What happens to a 16 year old male (born December) having consensual sex with a 14 year old female (born January)? They are basically one year apart but the girl is underage? Is that considered a sexual offense since the boy was over 15 and the girl considered underage? Shorti, ain't it the truth - hormones acting up at 14-15 years old. If a 14-15 year old forces sex on another, obviously, it should be considered an offense, and though I may take a bashing on this, you hear stories many times of a teenage female saying she was forced, when in reality she didn't want her parents to know she actually had consensual sex. Alot of gray area when it comes to the topic of underage sex.
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Post by deputy on Sept 17, 2009 15:45:55 GMT -4
Is it me or does that chart start at SIX years old?
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Post by funnel101 on Sept 17, 2009 15:53:13 GMT -4
6 or 7. Hard to tell.
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Post by shadow1 on Sept 17, 2009 15:55:48 GMT -4
Masterblaster -looks like it. Are they now busting kids for puppy love - I think a good spanking would take care of the problem at that age
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Post by shorti on Sept 17, 2009 16:30:06 GMT -4
you know what's scary though? a friend of mine's kid was telling me about her friend that had already been pregnant & had an abortion - at the time they were like 11 & 12!!!!! I couldn't believe it! 11 or 12??? while I thought boys were cute & all at that age, I certainly didn't think about having sex at that age... and shadow you're right there are girls that will say that just to stay out of trouble w/ the parents... if they're a victim mom & dad will be sympathetic... which just makes it all that much harder for the ones who truly are victims. funnel i don't agree - i think if you are convicted or whatever of a sexual assault under the age of 18 that should stay with you FOREVER... while it may seem harsh... but how would you feel if they did that & then your kid was sexually assaulted by this person now an "adult" but since their record was "clean" they were able to teach in your kids school which lead to this offense? just too much risk... while it's a little different - i think the same principle applies: school bus driver - got a DWI/DUI 5 years ago - should they still be allowed to drive the school bus or any other public/private mass transportation vehicle?
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Post by safetildecember on Sept 17, 2009 17:59:30 GMT -4
Chances are a 6 or 7 year old that is engaged in sexual activity where they are the aggressor was most likely a victim of sexual abuse themselves. They have to learn it from somewhere.
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Post by falgar25 on Sept 17, 2009 21:22:15 GMT -4
... funnel i don't agree - i think if you are convicted or whatever of a sexual assault under the age of 18 that should stay with you FOREVER... while it may seem harsh... but how would you feel if they did that & then your kid was sexually assaulted by this person now an "adult" but since their record was "clean" they were able to teach in your kids school which lead to this offense? just too much risk... The problem is not all "sexual assaults" are equal and FOREVER is a long time. I believe the point of the article, this thread, and several of the comments is we are too quick to affix the title "sexual predator" for lesser and lesser transgressions. A serious crime should be treated as such, regardless of age, but these days we are just too darn quick to overreact. yes, there are very few one-time actions that I believe deserve a lifetime of punishment
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Post by kl on Sept 18, 2009 6:59:10 GMT -4
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Post by shorti on Sept 18, 2009 7:26:21 GMT -4
oh falgar i couldn't agree more... when i say sexual assault i am referring to an actual assault... not someone flashing someone or peeing in public when kids are around or other things like that....
but for those who actually take something that doesn't belong to them & was not given willingly... then yes... in my book - forever it should stay with them...
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