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Post by jackbquick on Jul 13, 2013 16:25:08 GMT -4
Harris Teeter was just bought by Kroger. Don't know if it will still operate as Harris Teeter. Then there is Trader Joe's which tends to have smaller stores and trades on good pricing. No meat or fish department, tho, and light on fresh produce. Graul's of Annapolis supposedly looked at the ACME location near Hardee's but concluded that Kent Island doesn't have the population density to support even a Graul's. Another reason for more growth on Kent Island. We need more people to support decent stores.
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Post by deputy on Jul 15, 2013 12:31:34 GMT -4
Harris Teeter was just bought by Kroger. Don't know if it will still operate as Harris Teeter. Then there is Trader Joe's which tends to have smaller stores and trades on good pricing. No meat or fish department, tho, and light on fresh produce. Graul's of Annapolis supposedly looked at the ACME location near Hardee's but concluded that Kent Island doesn't have the population density to support even a Graul's. Another reason for more growth on Kent Island. We need more people to support decent stores. Now there's some F'd up logic....
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Post by OscarsDad4 on Jul 15, 2013 13:38:37 GMT -4
Another reason for more growth on Kent Island. We need more people to support decent stores. Now there's some F'd up logic.... Why is it "F'd up", deputy? Because it's not aligned with your wants and desires? I think the logic is spot on. The residents on Kent Island do not support many decent stores; that's a fact. The lack of many decent stores is proof, as is this whole freaking forum. It's also attributable to the total population, regardless of shopping pattern; Think about it, if you're capable. Glen Burnie is a dump of a town, with many more residents than Kent Island. They have several decent grocery stores as well as an array of quality, well-known retail shops. So, let me break this down a bit further for you, Deputy. Glen Burnie has approximately 70,000 residents, while Kent Island has less than 20,000. Glen Burnie has many decent stores, while Kent Island does not. Therefore, a direct correlation exists between population and a town's portfolio of decent stores. Further, jackbquick's logic is entirely accurate. Now, if by "F'd up logic" you meant to say, "I, Deputy of all that is ignorant, would prefer to forego decent stores so that I can retain my small-town feel, and am willing to drive a few miles (sometimes many miles) to get to a location with a large selection of household items, restaurants, family activities, etc...", maybe you would've had a good point. Unfortunately, you chose to take the pig-headed route of communication displayed above, and one can only assume you're an illogical jerk... Let's all grow up and try to communicate a little more effectively.
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Post by constructr on Jul 15, 2013 15:02:22 GMT -4
aredding04, I see you're new here so I'll help ya out. Many of the folks here can't take the truth. They fear it, actually. Is what it is and that won't change. I agree with Jackbquick, too. We now do about 95% of our shopping (food and retail) elsewhere because quite frankly, the stores here suck. Big time! Same goes for most of the restaurants too. Here we are, living on island on the Chesapeake Bay and there is really only ONE restaurant you can get a decent piece of fish (The Narrows)!! Thats really pathetic!!
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Post by mdbaygal on Jul 15, 2013 15:50:32 GMT -4
constructr...I agree with you. I have long said that it is a shame that there is not a decent fish market here. Plus no decent shopping of any kind. You can go to many of the small towns (smaller than the population of Kent Island) in Delaware and find much better shopping (and tax free too). The killer is the hour long drive, especially in the summer traffic. Your only other option is to go across the bridge and pay the hefty toll. It seems everyone here feels they have a right to dictate to business what they can and cannot sell, what they can and cannot build, etc. Kind of like the busy body next door who tells you what color you should paint your house, or what kind of flowers you should plant, etc. Sometimes I think the real reason that we are left with sub par shopping options is that all the good ones are in such demand that they really do not want to deal with the attacks on their business, the anti everything loudmouths that seem to just love Kent Island and love dragging them through countless court cases. So....they just go somewhere else and we are left with thrift stores, pawn shops, big lots, subpar grocery store and tons of empty store fronts. Someone mentioned here on the boards that the Kent Island Conservatory should use their funding to buy land that is up for sale and donate it for the public use. This would be a much better use of money (much from outside the county I hear) than endless court battles. You buy it and then there is no question of no development. Or all the no growth people can unite and buy land that they do not want development on. Yeah, I somehow don't think that will ever happen.
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Post by eileen on Jul 15, 2013 16:04:49 GMT -4
mdbaygal, it's although you reached into my brain and pulled out the thoughts you lay out above. Agree with all you said.
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Post by falgar25 on Jul 15, 2013 16:54:46 GMT -4
It's been written before but it seems like maybe it's time again. If all the things you like or want are "over there" then don't let anyone stop you from moving over there to be closer to them. If you don't like it here the n why did you move here in the first place?
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Post by mdbaygal on Jul 15, 2013 17:02:53 GMT -4
Wow falgar I could have predicted a statement like yours. Do we need to start the thread "I've been here longer than you, so my opinion counts and yours don't?" Sounds like the 3rd grade playground, my Dad can beat you Dad....
Gee, if everyone held that opinion, then I guess all you non native folks should just climb back on your boats and go back to Europe.
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Post by falgar25 on Jul 15, 2013 17:06:24 GMT -4
Who said anything about being here longer? Maybe I moved her last year, doesn't matter. I moved here because of what the Island *was* not what I wanted to turn it into.
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Post by jackbquick on Jul 15, 2013 17:19:47 GMT -4
Who said anything about being her longer? Maybe I moved her last year, doesn't matter. I moved here because if what the Island *was* not what I wanted to turn it into. Falgar, My guess a lot of people moved to KI for affordable housing and close access to the bay. I bet most people do not want it to become glenburnie but would not mind a few more people to support a few decent stores (food , retail). Easton is not glenburnie but yet they have a reasonable balance between quality of life and a decent selection of stores.
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Post by constructr on Jul 15, 2013 19:44:21 GMT -4
Lets make one thing perfectly clear!! Wanting a DECENT grocery store or a couple of DECENT restaurants to get GOOD (where not every F'ing thing is FRIED) shouldn't be met with such resistance. You may now return to eating your fried mayonaise balls!!
And no, we certainly don't want "Kent Burnie". We want Kent Island. But times change and areas "evolve". Don't be so naive.
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Post by alanr on Jul 15, 2013 21:44:13 GMT -4
Lets make one thing perfectly clear!! Wanting a DECENT grocery store or a couple of DECENT restaurants to get GOOD (where not every F'ing thing is FRIED) shouldn't be met with such resistance. You may now return to eating your fried mayonaise balls!! And no, we certainly don't want "Kent Burnie". We want Kent Island. But times change and areas "evolve". Don't be so naive. Well said
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Post by Name Goes Here on Jul 15, 2013 21:49:42 GMT -4
You may now return to eating your fried mayonaise balls!!
Now that sounds delicious
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Post by deputy on Jul 16, 2013 12:06:59 GMT -4
Now there's some F'd up logic.... Why is it "F'd up", deputy? Because it's not aligned with your wants and desires? I think the logic is spot on. The residents on Kent Island do not support many decent stores; that's a fact. The lack of many decent stores is proof, as is this whole freaking forum. It's also attributable to the total population, regardless of shopping pattern; Think about it, if you're capable. Glen Burnie is a dump of a town, with many more residents than Kent Island. They have several decent grocery stores as well as an array of quality, well-known retail shops. So, let me break this down a bit further for you, Deputy. Glen Burnie has approximately 70,000 residents, while Kent Island has less than 20,000. Glen Burnie has many decent stores, while Kent Island does not. Therefore, a direct correlation exists between population and a town's portfolio of decent stores. Further, jackbquick's logic is entirely accurate. Now, if by "F'd up logic" you meant to say, "I, Deputy of all that is ignorant, would prefer to forego decent stores so that I can retain my small-town feel, and am willing to drive a few miles (sometimes many miles) to get to a location with a large selection of household items, restaurants, family activities, etc...", maybe you would've had a good point. Unfortunately, you chose to take the pig-headed route of communication displayed above, and one can only assume you're an illogical jerk... Let's all grow up and try to communicate a little more effectively. Wow, look, another "new member" coming to the rescue and defense of JBQ.... It's stupid to think we NEED more people to get a store that WE DON'T NEED. It' bass akwards thinking like that that's running this country right now and it's DUMB. Tell us again why you moved here? Nice area? cheaper housing? Away from the busy city? You can't have your cake and eat it too. pick one and take it. Just beacause a vast MINORITY of people WANT something, doesn't mean the majority of the people NEED it. GO ahead and call your 3rd grade names, fell better? Keyboard warrior....
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Post by OscarsDad4 on Jul 16, 2013 12:53:29 GMT -4
Why is it "F'd up", deputy? Because it's not aligned with your wants and desires? I think the logic is spot on. The residents on Kent Island do not support many decent stores; that's a fact. The lack of many decent stores is proof, as is this whole freaking forum. It's also attributable to the total population, regardless of shopping pattern; Think about it, if you're capable. Glen Burnie is a dump of a town, with many more residents than Kent Island. They have several decent grocery stores as well as an array of quality, well-known retail shops. So, let me break this down a bit further for you, Deputy. Glen Burnie has approximately 70,000 residents, while Kent Island has less than 20,000. Glen Burnie has many decent stores, while Kent Island does not. Therefore, a direct correlation exists between population and a town's portfolio of decent stores. Further, jackbquick's logic is entirely accurate. Now, if by "F'd up logic" you meant to say, "I, Deputy of all that is ignorant, would prefer to forego decent stores so that I can retain my small-town feel, and am willing to drive a few miles (sometimes many miles) to get to a location with a large selection of household items, restaurants, family activities, etc...", maybe you would've had a good point. Unfortunately, you chose to take the pig-headed route of communication displayed above, and one can only assume you're an illogical jerk... Let's all grow up and try to communicate a little more effectively. Wow, look, another "new member" coming to the rescue and defense of JBQ.... It's stupid to think we NEED more people to get a store that WE DON'T NEED. It' bass akwards thinking like that that's running this country right now and it's DUMB. Tell us again why you moved here? Nice area? cheaper housing? Away from the busy city? You can't have your cake and eat it too. pick one and take it. Just beacause a vast MINORITY of people WANT something, doesn't mean the majority of the people NEED it. GO ahead and call your 3rd grade names, fell better? Keyboard warrior.... hey there sweetpea... Judging by the number of posts you've made, it would seem you qualify as a keyboard warrior more than I. Regardless, you continue to prove your stupidity. I was simply commenting on your pathetic response to jacbquick's logical statement. I'm encouraging you communicate in complete and thoughtful sentences; something you've proven incapable of in over 1,500 posts. Moving on, I agree that Kent Island is sufficient for my purposes. New grocers wouldn't make me any happier than I am now. I do not agree that calling someone or someone's statement "F'd up" is productive. In fact, I think it's indicative of what is truly ruining our country (or in your words, "running"); that's ignorance, disrespect, and a lack of compromise. You think your opinion is that of the majority, clearly. How do you know that? Have you surveyed the local population? You think you know it all, and you don't. Treat people with respect, that's all I'm suggesting. I'm sure you'll respond with some stupid comments and suggest that I'm afraid of you because I'm on a keyboard (just like you are). Go ahead, prove my point; however, we'd all be better off if you prove me wrong. Be nice to people, consider their opinion as important as your own, or else none of our opinions will matter.
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Post by RobMoore on Jul 16, 2013 16:36:24 GMT -4
I don't find that the name on the outside of the store dictates the quality of its goods and services.The quality of the management is most responsible for that, which leads to a better quality of employee.
Perhaps instead of importing a big name grocery store, we could just demand they staff our current one with quality personnel.
Having a Harris Teeter or Wegmans doesn't do us any good if you take the same people inside safeway and just give them new uniforms.
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Post by bchevy on Jul 16, 2013 21:27:53 GMT -4
Wow, look, another "new member" coming to the rescue and defense of JBQ.... It's stupid to think we NEED more people to get a store that WE DON'T NEED. It' bass akwards thinking like that that's running this country right now and it's DUMB. Tell us again why you moved here? Nice area? cheaper housing? Away from the busy city? You can't have your cake and eat it too. pick one and take it. Just beacause a vast MINORITY of people WANT something, doesn't mean the majority of the people NEED it. GO ahead and call your 3rd grade names, fell better? Keyboard warrior.... hey there sweetpea... Judging by the number of posts you've made, it would seem you qualify as a keyboard warrior more than I. Regardless, you continue to prove your stupidity. I was simply commenting on your pathetic response to jacbquick's logical statement. I'm encouraging you communicate in complete and thoughtful sentences; something you've proven incapable of in over 1,500 posts. Moving on, I agree that Kent Island is sufficient for my purposes. New grocers wouldn't make me any happier than I am now. I do not agree that calling someone or someone's statement "F'd up" is productive. In fact, I think it's indicative of what is truly ruining our country (or in your words, "running"); that's ignorance, disrespect, and a lack of compromise. You think your opinion is that of the majority, clearly. How do you know that? Have you surveyed the local population? You think you know it all, and you don't. Treat people with respect, that's all I'm suggesting. I'm sure you'll respond with some stupid comments and suggest that I'm afraid of you because I'm on a keyboard (just like you are). Go ahead, prove my point; however, we'd all be better off if you prove me wrong. Be nice to people, consider their opinion as important as your own, or else none of our opinions will matter. 3 Wholes posts and two of them are name calling and rude towards another member and picking on the site you just saw fit to join... and you say be nice to other people? I know Deputy very well, and I'll stick with him. taken any lunch money lately?
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Post by jackbquick on Jul 16, 2013 22:11:21 GMT -4
Another reason for more growth on Keont Island. We need more people to support decent stores. Now there's some F'd up logic.... Bchevy, I agree with you. Deputy never starts anything. When he doesn't agree with you, he lets you know in such a polite way. Not! This not the first time.
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Post by constructr on Jul 17, 2013 14:54:21 GMT -4
I don't find that the name on the outside of the store dictates the quality of its goods and services.The quality of the management is most responsible for that, which leads to a better quality of employee. Perhaps instead of importing a big name grocery store, we could just demand they staff our current one with quality personnel. Having a Harris Teeter or Wegmans doesn't do us any good if you take the same people inside safeway and just give them new uniforms. Rob, you and I usually see eye-to-eye, but you're dead wrong on this one brother. The business model and products that both Harris teeter and Wegmans offers is above and beyond anything Safeway offers! Safeway doesn't even come CLOSE. Remember, the sign of a great grocer is Quality Perishables. Plus, their Training Program is pretty thorough and you can see it in the performance and personality of the employees. I won't argue that our area has some lazy-a$$ folks but they could certainly weed out the ones who don't make the cut. Either one of the above would be a BLESSING for the Island!!
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Post by alleycat on Jul 17, 2013 17:46:15 GMT -4
Who said anything about being her longer? Maybe I moved her last year, doesn't matter. I moved here because if what the Island *was* not what I wanted to turn it into. Falgar, My guess a lot of people moved to KI for affordable housing and close access to the bay. I bet most people do not want it to become glenburnie but would not mind a few more people to support a few decent stores (food , retail). Easton is not glenburnie but yet they have a reasonable balance between quality of life and a decent selection of stores. The distinction is that Easton is not on an island. Perhaps grasonville should take on some of this passion for more.
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Post by alanr on Jul 17, 2013 18:13:12 GMT -4
I don't find that the name on the outside of the store dictates the quality of its goods and services.The quality of the management is most responsible for that, which leads to a better quality of employee. Perhaps instead of importing a big name grocery store, we could just demand they staff our current one with quality personnel. Having a Harris Teeter or Wegmans doesn't do us any good if you take the same people inside safeway and just give them new uniforms. Rob, you and I usually see eye-to-eye, but you're dead wrong on this one brother. The business model and products that both Harris teeter and Wegmans offers is above and beyond anything Safeway offers! Safeway doesn't even come CLOSE. Remember, the sign of a great grocer is Quality Perishables. Plus, their Training Program is pretty thorough and you can see it in the performance and personality of the employees. I won't argue that our area has some lazy-a$$ folks but they could certainly weed out the ones who don't make the cut. Either one of the above would be a BLESSING for the Island!! Agreed 100%. You can even throw in Trader Joe and Whole Foods, there employees always seem happy. Safeway has really gone down hill from when Bruce ran it.We need another store here to compete. As much as I don't care for Food Lyon they run about 20% cheaper on most items. There is just something about the lighting in that store that drives me nuts.
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Post by deputy on Jul 18, 2013 8:41:05 GMT -4
Easton is not glenburnie but yet they have a reasonable balance between quality of life and a decent selection of stores. I really have a hard time understanding why some people move here. This isn't a question, it's an observation. If what you want isn't here, why are you here?
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Post by markp on Jul 18, 2013 8:44:31 GMT -4
Their called cake eaters deputy. They want to move here for the "country" lifestyle but then turn around and want the convenience of where they left.
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Post by jackbquick on Jul 18, 2013 10:15:31 GMT -4
Their called cake eaters deputy. They want to move here for the "country" lifestyle but then turn around and want the convenience of where they left. My point is that Kent Island is past the point of country living and getting away from it all. People have and continue to move to Kent Island because they can buy a house for a reasonable price and still have a reasonable commute to DC where the decent paying jobs are. If it was not for the close proximity to DC and the jobs, there would not be such a demand for people wanting to move to Kent Island. My guess is that most people would probably live near Easton where you can have both country living and decent stores. Just an observation and of course just my opinion.
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Post by jackbquick on Jul 18, 2013 10:20:59 GMT -4
Easton is not glenburnie but yet they have a reasonable balance between quality of life and a decent selection of stores. I really have a hard time understanding why some people move here. This isn't a question, it's an observation. If what you want isn't here, why are you here? Deputy, Let me answer that with a similar question. If you don't like where Kent Island is headed or how it is evolving, why do you stay?
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