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Post by bols43 on Aug 9, 2014 1:46:06 GMT -4
Come on people. The homeless are already here. They are just getting a new safe place to sleep. Like many others have already said, they are not criminals. They are homeless.
AWESOME, LETS GET THEM A JOB IN BALTIMORE.
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Post by bols43 on Aug 9, 2014 1:51:59 GMT -4
It's nice to see someone join this page who understands rational discussion and is tactful enough not to unnecessarilly attack private individuals ... Or it would be nice.
Until two days ago, this thread had turned into a more civilized discussion of differing opinions and concerns, approaching constructive discourse.
Let's not allow a new member to derail a legitimate discussion by carpet-bombing the thread with dozens of tourettes-like, hateful, incoherant rants. Ignoring him reinforces the other, credible comments. Don't feed the troll.
I HAVE A CONCERN. I SAID THIS FIRST AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN. IF THIS IS FOR STEVENSVILLE HOMELESS, IM ALL FOR IT. IF THIS IS FOR ANYBODY, THATS B.S. NIMBY
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Post by emsguru on Aug 9, 2014 8:38:50 GMT -4
It's nice to see someone join this page who understands rational discussion and is tactful enough not to unnecessarilly attack private individuals ... Or it would be nice. Until two days ago, this thread had turned into a more civilized discussion of differing opinions and concerns, approaching constructive discourse. Let's not allow a new member to derail a legitimate discussion by carpet-bombing the thread with dozens of tourettes-like, hateful, incoherant rants. Ignoring him reinforces the other, credible comments. Don't feed the troll. I HAVE A CONCERN. I SAID THIS FIRST AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN. IF THIS IS FOR STEVENSVILLE HOMELESS, IM ALL FOR IT. IF THIS IS FOR ANYBODY, THATS B.S. NIMBY Perhaps we build one in every community. If someone from your community loses their house they go to their respective homeless shelter. So that would be roughly 15 to 20 homeless shelters on KI. I think I like this idea. I don't want any homeless from Chester River Beach stinking up my side of Grasonville!!
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Post by RobMoore on Aug 9, 2014 9:35:28 GMT -4
Or all the churches could designate a room in their buildings. We probably have more churches in this county than homeless people.
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Post by Workingman on Aug 9, 2014 15:31:16 GMT -4
The biggest concern that I have about this is the fact that it is pretty much going to be built at 325 State Street. My concern is HOW THIS HAPPENED WITHOUT A PUBLIC HEARING.. Not one person who gave this the green light is answering questions, not even our trusted and publicly appointed officials.
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Post by oriolesfan on Aug 10, 2014 8:44:08 GMT -4
Wait....you expect our elected officials to be accountable?
That's crazy talk
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Post by Workingman on Aug 10, 2014 11:08:16 GMT -4
Oriolesfan: Haha, yeah I got a little crazy there for a second...
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Post by frankf on Aug 10, 2014 21:22:59 GMT -4
Perhaps the homeless could be hired to patrol the parks and trail and actually be PAID with money collected by our DOUBLE TAX to use OUR parks rather than it going to pay the fat a$$ sitting on the Gator at Terrapin collecting fees, working on his tan or whatever the he11 he's doing.
While they're walking the trail and harassing people as the NIMBYs claim they'll be doing, they can harass them to benefit us all. ;-)
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Post by knottygal on Aug 11, 2014 10:40:43 GMT -4
Mikey how does this add to home values? You must not own the home you talk about living in. When you buy a home in a neighborhood, you want and pray values go up. A homeless shelter does not increase property value. Stevensville could be the most exclusive community in Maryland. It could be bethesda,md. But it won't because we are helping everyone except ourselves. If I become homeless, I expect to live in the ghetto. When I work I expect to live with working people. It looks like we have a long way to go before Stevensville could be Bethesda, Maryland: Bethesda House Bethesda Bethesda, MD 20814 (301) 907-9597 Transitional Housing for men
Interfaith Housing Coalition Bethesda Bethesda, MD 20814 301-656-6867 Transitional Housing
Betty Krahnke Center - National Center For Children And Families Bethesda Bethesda, MD 20817 301-365-4480 Transitional Housing Washington Christian Housing Council Bethesda Bethesda, MD 20816 (301)320-3600 Transitional Housing, Non Profit Organization
National Center For Children And Families Bethesda Bethesda, MD 20817
Bethesda Cares - Drop-in Center Bethesda, MD 20814 301-907-9244
National Center For Children And Families - Greentree Adolescent Program Gap (for Ages 13 To 18) Bethesda, MD 20817 301-365-4480
National Center For Children And Families - Futurebound Independent Living Program Filp (for Ages 16 To 21) Bethesda, MD 20817 301-365-4480
National Center For Children And Families - Greentree Shelter Gts Bethesda, MD 20817 301-365-4480
National Center For Children And Families - Betty Ann Krahnke Center For New Beginnings (for Women And Children) Bethesda, MD 20817 301-365-4480
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Post by islandsquire on Aug 11, 2014 23:59:05 GMT -4
It doesn't seem that any of the above-listed Bethesda facilities are emergency nightly shelters, is that correct? In addition to about 8 slots for long-term "transitional living," the planned Stevensville shelter does have 20 traditional "nightly" bunks. So, it would seem to be not the most applicable comparison.
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Post by Workingman on Aug 12, 2014 20:46:32 GMT -4
Quote from the Haven Website..http://www.qactv.com/public-notices/public-invited-to-aug-25th-informational-meeting-for-haven-ministries-homeless-shelter/
"All shelter guests are given drug and Breathalyzer tests, are cleared through the sex offenders’ registry and go through a criminal background check to insure the safety of other guests and volunteers."
So how will the shelter handle any individual that is drunk or has a record? Quote from Krista Petite, "No guest will be turned away" how is this going to work?
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Post by OscarsDad4 on Aug 12, 2014 20:51:56 GMT -4
Quote from the Haven Website..http://www.qactv.com/public-notices/public-invited-to-aug-25th-informational-meeting-for-haven-ministries-homeless-shelter/ "All shelter guests are given drug and Breathalyzer tests, are cleared through the sex offenders’ registry and go through a criminal background check to insure the safety of other guests and volunteers." So how will the shelter handle any individual that is drunk or has a record? Quote from Krista Petite, "No guest will be turned away" how is this going to work? Be very careful here... asking these types of logical questions results in nothing but ridicule and name calling.
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Post by Workingman on Aug 12, 2014 20:58:41 GMT -4
Quote from the Haven Website..http://www.qactv.com/public-notices/public-invited-to-aug-25th-informational-meeting-for-haven-ministries-homeless-shelter/ "All shelter guests are given drug and Breathalyzer tests, are cleared through the sex offenders’ registry and go through a criminal background check to insure the safety of other guests and volunteers." So how will the shelter handle any individual that is drunk or has a record? Quote from Krista Petite, "No guest will be turned away" how is this going to work? Be very careful here... asking these types of logical questions results in nothing but ridicule and name calling. Haha...Well I'm a Nimby and I guess I am just doing what Nimby's do..
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Post by islandsquire on Aug 14, 2014 18:15:30 GMT -4
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Post by emsguru on Aug 14, 2014 18:44:53 GMT -4
They really should reconsider this. The homeless are already starting to come around. The other night they got cars and went around destroying mailboxes. Imagine what it will be like when the shelter is open.
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Post by ravens20 on Aug 15, 2014 0:14:55 GMT -4
They really should reconsider this. The homeless are already starting to come around. The other night they got cars and went around destroying mailboxes. Imagine what it will be like when the shelter is open. lol
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Post by oriolesfan on Aug 15, 2014 5:20:48 GMT -4
I heard DHS was now looking at this to house border families
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Post by OscarsDad4 on Aug 20, 2014 7:18:20 GMT -4
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Post by dan on Aug 20, 2014 13:57:44 GMT -4
Considering some of the other things that could have been built at that location, a homeless shelter is not all that bad. Here's the entire list of permitted uses for most of the properties along State St.:
(1) Agricultural support. (2) Auctions. (3) Bed-and-breakfast. (4) Carry-out food service. (5) Coffee shop. (6) Commercial apartments. (7) Convenience stores, with or without gas pumps. (8) Country inn. (9) Country store. (10) Deli. (11) Drive-through beverage stand. (12) Effluent disposal. (13) Family day-care center. (14) Farmers market. (15) Fraternal organizations. (16) Funeral homes. (17) Group day-care center. (18) High commercial. (19) Hotels. (20) Low commercial. (21) Manufactured home single-wide; allowed only as a replacement for any legal existing mobile home or single-wide home; and to provide temporary shelter, provided the provisions of § 18:1-53 of this Chapter 18:1 have been met. (22) Medium commercial. (23) Miniwarehouse (with or without exterior storage). (24) Noncommercial forestry. (25) Nonprofit and for-profit institutional. (26) Nurseries. (27) Outdoor recreation. (28) Parking. (29) Public service. (30) Shopping centers. (31) Veterinary offices.
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Post by ravens20 on Aug 20, 2014 21:13:17 GMT -4
Where in the WORLD do you get the idea that only 15 to 20 people have lost their homes in the Stevensville area. It is quite a bit higher than that my friend. That's not what he said.
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Post by emsguru on Aug 20, 2014 21:32:49 GMT -4
Where in the WORLD do you get the idea that only 15 to 20 people have lost their homes in the Stevensville area. It is quite a bit higher than that my friend. That's not what he said. lol. I was thinking the same thing.
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Post by knottygal on Aug 20, 2014 21:56:30 GMT -4
The article posted on myeasternshoremd.com appears to say that upset neighbors were not aware of the project when they bought their homes. Just because the concerned parties are new to the area and did not find information through their own due diligence, does not mean that the local government was "sneaking something through." It seems absurd to me that our local government has to invest time and all of our tax dollars to validate a decision that was open to conversation and approved some time ago. Note this article from 2011 which took less than 5 minutes to locate on the same website:
Shelter continues transition to year-round By CHRIS KNAUSS Staff Writer | Posted Jul 14, 2011
CENTREVILLE Plans to combine a winter homeless shelter with an existing year-round transitional housing site on State Street in Stevensville are continuing at a slow but steady pace.
Queen Anne's County Christian Assistance recently received pledges of donated services from Torchio Architects in Centreville and Karl Phillips, a Centreville lawyer, toward Phase 2 of the overall project.
Gregory Torchio has pledged $7,500 in architectural services for the Phase 2 design and Phillips has pledged approximately $10,000 in legal assistance.
"Our plan all along has been to bring the homeless shelter and the transitional housing together at one location, in one building, so that we're not split up between Chester and Stevensville," said Krista Pettit, executive director of QACCA.
The Christian organization served 35 guests this past winter at its Our Haven Shelter at the Kent Island United Methodist Church. Those guests consisted of nine homeless women, six children, and 20 men.
The shelter is Queen Anne's County's only cold weather shelter and has been in operation for five years. It provides a safe and warm environment, three meals a day, medication if necessary, and clothing to men, women, and children. All of its funding comes from federal, state and private grants as well as fundraising and donations. It does not receive any county funding, but does receive written support from the county to help with securing grants.
A recent grant request for the Phase 2 design was turned down by the Maryland Department of Housing and Community Development, but Candice Darling of Queen Anne's County's Housing and Community Services department said the request will be resubmitted in another form. The new request may be written as an Emergency Shelter Grant.
A strongly worded letter from Cindy Stone, director of the state's DHCD office of community programs, disapproved of plans to demolish the existing transitional housing ranch home on State Street.
Our Haven Home on State Street provides housing for individuals and families for up to two years as long as a case management plan is followed.
In 2010, the county received $368,000 from Community Development Block Grant funds to acquire the property on State Street. The purchase and renovation of that property came in $35,600 under budget and is being recaptured by the state for other projects. Darling said under the guidelines of the grant, the extra money could not be used for design and construction of Phase 2. The $35,600 was never actually received by the county.
Pettit said demolition of the ranch home is being considered to accommodate both programs.
"We would have to have handicapped accessible bathrooms and doorways and entryways and things that do not exist on the rancher," she said. "But that was in the future. We will continue to use the rancher as a transitional housing program, and we'll certainly do that for as long as we can there, but that's many years down the road."
However, Mike Clark, director of the county's housing and community services department, said his department is looking into alternatives to achieve the original goal without demolishing the existing home.
Pettit said the church has granted her organization permission to operate the winter shelter at the church for the 2011-2012 season.
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Post by OscarsDad4 on Aug 21, 2014 7:10:17 GMT -4
The article posted on myeasternshoremd.com appears to say that upset neighbors were not aware of the project when they bought their homes. Just because the concerned parties are new to the area and did not find information through their own due diligence, does not mean that the local government was "sneaking something through." It seems absurd to me that our local government has to invest time and all of our tax dollars to validate a decision that was open to conversation and approved some time ago. Note this article from 2011 which took less than 5 minutes to locate on the same website: The article references one neighbor that recently purchased their home and was unaware of the planned facility. The article doesn't mention the hundreds of neighbors that have lived in the area for many years who were unaware. The county isn't hosting the town hall for that one family. They're hosting it because they've received hundreds of emails and letters and phone calls from Stevensville residents who were unaware, and they're putting all of the pressure on Haven Ministries (a private entity) to justify their decision. There are no tax dollars being utilized for this meeting, other than the tax dollars used to post one announcement on QACTV... which, by the way, followed several articles on QACTV in favor of Haven Ministries, a private entity. I find it absurd that our tax dollars go to advertising on QACTV for private entities. Finally, the conversation to purchase the property in question was not open to public "conversation" because the county purposefully witheld the address from the public hearing announcment; that's sneaky and indicitive of a bunch of lazy commissioners trying to sneak a facility into the community.
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Post by dw on Aug 21, 2014 7:51:04 GMT -4
I am sure that some of you would prefer this be elsewhere but the reality is that Stevensville, despite having the largest population in the county, has done little to provide housing for homeless, low-income or other disadvantaged people. If you exclude housing for Seniors, which no one seems to have issues with, Centreville has 69 units, Chester has 61 units and Grasonville has 25 units of low-income housing. I would much prefer something like this rather than a section-8 apartment complex in my backyard.
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Post by OscarsDad4 on Aug 21, 2014 8:01:17 GMT -4
I am sure that some of you would prefer this be elsewhere but the reality is that Stevensville, despite having the largest population in the county, has done little to provide housing for homeless, low-income or other disadvantaged people. If you exclude housing for Seniors, which no one seems to have issues with, Centreville has 69 units, Chester has 61 units and Grasonville has 25 units of low-income housing. I would much prefer something like this rather than a section-8 apartment complex in my backyard. Stevensville has the lowest poverty rate in the county... which means the underutilized transitional homes that already exist in Stevensville are likely sufficient. Regardless, low-income housing (or transitional housing) is not the same as a homeless shelter.
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