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Post by bchevy on Apr 5, 2009 8:27:45 GMT -4
Did you know? Marylands Drivers License policies are so F'd up that 3 states now don't accept it as a legitamate form of ID.
We are giving out licenses to so many ILLEGAL ALIENS that we have now deminished the validity of our system.
Really.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2009 9:07:11 GMT -4
Where is that information coming from? I would like to read about it to get the details. Like to see also if it has to deal with new licenses or the older ones that don't conform to the Federal ID thing that was mandated.
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Post by bchevy on Apr 5, 2009 10:41:14 GMT -4
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Post by pete1 on Apr 5, 2009 16:47:52 GMT -4
Maryland is one of four states that gives drivers licenses to illegals. Two thousand were issued every week last year by the M.V.A.....Legal citizens put your seat belts on and put your heads in the sand.
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Post by islandgirl on Apr 5, 2009 17:10:42 GMT -4
Maryland is one of four states that gives drivers licenses to illegals. Two thousand were issued every week last year by the M.V.A.....Legal citizens put your seat belts on and put your heads in the sand. I dont understand how that can happen???
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Post by bchevy on Apr 5, 2009 17:35:23 GMT -4
Maryland is one of four states that gives drivers licenses to illegals. Two thousand were issued every week last year by the M.V.A.....Legal citizens put your seat belts on and put your heads in the sand. I dont understand how that can happen??? It's easy and simple: Wimpy A~~ state legislators and lazy/greedy MVA. They would rather have the money raised by selling licenses to illegals than do the right thing. 1 easy fix according to the article, require the visa stamp in the passport, no stamp=no license. done deal. Ever lost your license and NOT have another photo id? you get put through the wringer to get a new license, WHEN THEY HAVE YOUR PHOTO ON FILE!
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Post by mcbeth on Apr 5, 2009 19:51:46 GMT -4
As one who occasionally travels by plane for work, but hasn't had the $$ to travel out of the country, this will be an additional reason for me to be fed up with MD's elected officials. I know my company won't be paying for me to get a new passport just so I can fly, and since I'm not planning out of country travel for some time, to have to pay for it when I don't "need" it, really cheeses me off. On top of that, to know that my drivers license (which costs me more than those in many/most other states) won't be considered "legal" identification by the U.S. government really makes me wonder WHEN we are going to stop electing these fools who don't bother to work for us.... But, I know that we all can answer these questions, so I'll stop my whining now....(I'm sure that is all our representatives see it as anyway).
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Post by bchevy on Apr 5, 2009 21:40:33 GMT -4
As one who occasionally travels by plane for work, but hasn't had the $$ to travel out of the country, this will be an additional reason for me to be fed up with MD's elected officials. I know my company won't be paying for me to get a new passport just so I can fly, and since I'm not planning out of country travel for some time, to have to pay for it when I don't "need" it, really cheeses me off. On top of that, to know that my drivers license (which costs me more than those in many/most other states) won't be considered "legal" identification by the U.S. government really makes me wonder WHEN we are going to stop electing these fools who don't bother to work for us.... But, I know that we all can answer these questions, so I'll stop my whining now....(I'm sure that is all our representatives see it as anyway). I haven't voted for an incumbent in a state or local election since, um, well, NEVER.
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Post by mcbeth on Apr 6, 2009 12:56:19 GMT -4
As one who occasionally travels by plane for work, but hasn't had the $$ to travel out of the country, this will be an additional reason for me to be fed up with MD's elected officials. I know my company won't be paying for me to get a new passport just so I can fly, and since I'm not planning out of country travel for some time, to have to pay for it when I don't "need" it, really cheeses me off. On top of that, to know that my drivers license (which costs me more than those in many/most other states) won't be considered "legal" identification by the U.S. government really makes me wonder WHEN we are going to stop electing these fools who don't bother to work for us.... But, I know that we all can answer these questions, so I'll stop my whining now....(I'm sure that is all our representatives see it as anyway). I haven't voted for an incumbent in a state or local election since, um, well, NEVER. I've never voted "party line" either, whether it is for an incumbent or a "newbie", but I'm thinking that it really doesn't matter anymore for WHOM we vote. None of them are doing their jobs.
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Post by jake on Apr 6, 2009 13:27:09 GMT -4
I would have to assume the majority of people ( Dem.s) agree the this policy because they are the ones who keep electing these Dem. politicians to office. So it is the registered Democrat's of this state that are to blame for these stupid policies.
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Post by deputy on Apr 6, 2009 15:11:40 GMT -4
I'll bet the majority of the dems probably don't have a clue about this policy, they obviously have no clue about who they vote for.....
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Post by mcbeth on Apr 6, 2009 17:44:12 GMT -4
Please don't think that everyone who is registered as a Democrat votes in any particular way or holds any more particular "bloc" type views than anyone registered as a Republican. This is the sort of talk that has led to our country being divided and has helped to ruin all sorts of chances of holding "intelligent" discussions.
I happen to be registered as a Democrat, and if you read my previous post, you would see that I DON'T vote party-line, and if you've read any of my other posts you would see that I also DON'T adhere to any extreme positions.
I happen to hold the belief that illegal means illegal, but by making generalizations like this about groups of people rather than focusing on what is wrong with positions of some of the people in leadership (and others), the only thing folks are doing is arguing over who is "right" or "wrong". We're not getting anywhere fast doing that.
The majority of Democrats and Republicans that I know (and I know A LOT of both - I'm from Western Md, originally, and interact daily with people from all over the State and country for that matter via work) tend to hold pretty centrist views. It has been the extremists on both sides of the aisle that have managed to screw things up pretty nicely.
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Post by funnel101 on Apr 6, 2009 17:56:29 GMT -4
What I want to know if why you have to answer a question about current employment when you get your license. What does that have to do with having a license to drive?
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Post by mcbeth on Apr 6, 2009 18:05:27 GMT -4
That's a new one on me; guess I'll find out in Sept when I need to renew this year. But, I agree. Where is that an applicable question? Funnel, when did you see that? I just helped my dad renew his by mail (he sees better than we all do - just had cataract surgery and got the new-fangled lenses; be more afraid of me being able to renew by mail, in other words ;D) and I don't remember what all was on the app.
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Post by bchevy on Apr 6, 2009 19:06:15 GMT -4
What I want to know if why you have to answer a question about current employment when you get your license. What does that have to do with having a license to drive? Ability to pay your insurance? I have no clue and it wasn't there when I renewed last time. Just more invasion by the government. Was this mandatory? Did you question it?
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Post by funnel101 on Apr 6, 2009 19:17:14 GMT -4
Yes, it was mandatory, and I asked why it was there... The guy said he had no idea. It wasn't there when I got my license here 5 years ago.
I just got my license renewed today at the Annapolis MVA. It was one of the questions I had to answer before my license could be renewed.
To clarify, the question was something like "Are you employed? Yes or no."
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Post by mcbeth on Apr 6, 2009 19:25:19 GMT -4
Wow. Ok, I wanna be the rabble-rouser and demand to know what happens if I don't answer! It's "nunya" as far as I'm concerned...(nunya business).
As far as ability to afford my insurance, don't we have to provide proof of insurance when we renew our titles? I don't ever remember insurance being an issue just to renew my license. Constructr, good question, but I don't get it either. Wish I had to renew sooner! I think if the person asking the question can't answer it, they're gonna need to get me an answer. (I'm sure you are not as big a pain as I am Funnel). Yes, I am going to be the one holding up the line.... ;D
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Post by funnel101 on Apr 6, 2009 19:49:56 GMT -4
Well, if anyone makes a big stink out of it, let me know what happens. I was put off by the question.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2009 20:33:38 GMT -4
I just renewed my license last week in Easton. Seriously, I don't recall a question concerning my ability to pay for insurance.
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Post by mcbeth on Apr 6, 2009 21:21:52 GMT -4
I just renewed my license last week in Easton. Seriously, I don't recall a question concerning my ability to pay for insurance. Oops, MJ, sorry I think we threw you on that one. Funnel said that there was a question about employment, but when asked, the employee @ MVA couldn't tell WHY that question. BChevy didn't get the same question when he renewed. I'm just ornery enough to want to be a pain now that I know there is a "mandatory" reply needed...if they can't tell me why that is pertinent to me getting my license renewed, I want an answer. I understand why you were put off, Funnel. Probably would have thrown me, too. I"m not quick enough on my feet, but if I know in advance about something, it catches me less off guard.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2009 22:52:47 GMT -4
I didn't encounter any intrusive question(s). That's an issue with me, especially on printed paperwork where you list your SS#, DOB and address. Actually, overall it was a quick and painless visit dealing with the MVA this time. I do recall that there might have been a question with something like "are you currently employed" with a yes or no answer option.
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Post by mcbeth on Apr 6, 2009 23:23:59 GMT -4
"Option" I'm good with, "mandatory" not so much.
They do have to make it an adventure, don't they? ;D
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Post by falgar25 on Apr 7, 2009 5:35:37 GMT -4
I do recall that there might have been a question with something like "are you currently employed" with a yes or no answer option. It *could* be that a question like this was added out of curiosity or to gather some sort of demographic information. It probably seemed harmless at the time, a little question that no one would care about. The person adding the question had a job and perhaps didn't understand that people might be sensitive to being unemployed and unwilling to answer such a question. If the answer to the question does not affect whether or not the license is granted or what type of license is granted then it really does not belong on the application. At best, it belongs in a section where the answers are optional.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2009 8:17:45 GMT -4
I did answer the question. So, I don't know the outcome of not answering it. We need someone to try not to answer the question so we know what happens. Hopefully you will be released from custody by the end of the day. ;D
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Post by mcbeth on Apr 7, 2009 11:09:08 GMT -4
I did answer the question. So, I don't know the outcome of not answering it. We need someone to try not to answer the question so we know what happens. Hopefully you will be released from custody by the end of the day. ;D That's why I'm so bummed that I don't renew again until September!!! But, I'll be the test case if no one else does before then; I will just plan to spend my birthday a little "differently", I guess, LOL! (Hopefully the hubby will come bail me out....) ;D
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