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Post by pete1 on Jul 22, 2009 23:15:15 GMT -4
58 yr. old college professor arrested, and released when charges are dropped.......Henry Lewis Gates Jr. returned to his home from a trip to China, and was arrested for attempting to enter his house. After proving he was the owner he was charged with disorderly conduct. The news media forced their hand, and the charge was dropped. You would think the USA is safer than China.
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Post by constructr on Jul 23, 2009 7:06:22 GMT -4
Gee, I wonder ol' Mr. Gates did to force the police to arrest him? I'm not agreeing with the cops' actions but lets be realistic here.
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Post by island tech on Jul 23, 2009 7:19:58 GMT -4
Obama made a comment on this last night. In about the only 2 minutes I could bear to watch. He said that Gates was a friend and that the Cambridge police acted stupidly! There's more to this story than just they arrested him for nothing.
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Post by shoregurrl on Jul 23, 2009 9:22:33 GMT -4
Sounds like another case of the police abusing their "power."
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Post by moose on Jul 23, 2009 9:52:48 GMT -4
Lets be honest here.. Pete should never use the phrase "punk" unless he refering to a young person, or trouble maker..
stop trying to be hip and with it!
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Post by einebierbitte on Jul 23, 2009 10:46:29 GMT -4
According to the News, the police responded to Gates house after getting a call from the neighbor that there were two black men trying to break into the house.
Police responded and acted accordingly, but ended up arresting Gates for disorderly conduct. In other words, he just escalated the situation by claiming this whole thing was racial profling.
Gates had just returned from a trip overseas and the door was jammed that he was trying to enter..
Simple as that.
I agree with the Cop, that he shouldn't have to apologize, that Gates should apoligize for being such a doofus.....
But no......... another black man has been wronged and the President escalated to a National Bru ha ha!!
If you ask me the President misspoke and he should apoligize.
JMO
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Post by island tech on Jul 23, 2009 11:28:41 GMT -4
According to the News, the police responded to Gates house after getting a call from the neighbor that there were two black men trying to break into the house. Police responded and acted accordingly, but ended up arresting Gates for disorderly conduct. In other words, he just escalated the situation by claiming this whole thing was racial profling. Gates had just returned from a trip overseas and the door was jammed that he was trying to enter.. Simple as that. I agree with the Cop, that he shouldn't have to apologize, that Gates should apoligize for being such a doofus..... But no......... another black man has been wronged and the President escalated to a National Bru ha ha!! If you ask me the President misspoke and he should apoligize. JMO I agree!
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Post by Water Lady on Jul 23, 2009 12:27:17 GMT -4
I agree with Eine also. I'm just wondering when Jesse Jackson is going to show up to announce that he and Mr. Gates are bringing a suit against the Cambridge Police Dept., the city of Cambridge, the county, the state... Jeeeez
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Post by shoregurrl on Jul 23, 2009 12:34:38 GMT -4
It's easier to look at these types of things with a detached attitude and point of view rather than put yourself into the victims' shoes.
It's also easier for people to instantly assume that the victim must have done something wrong in order to deserve the received treatment. After all, questioning authority's decisions requires too much work and makes you a public enemy.
If you were the victim, you would feel differently, I assure you. If that day should come, here's hoping that there are people willing and able to speak out on your behalf.
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Post by kl on Jul 23, 2009 12:53:50 GMT -4
Obama made a comment on this last night. In about the only 2 minutes I could bear to watch. He said that Gates was a friend and that the Cambridge police acted stupidly! There's more to this story than just they arrested him for nothing. Way more. Would think a man in his position..well..never mind. www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0723092gates1.html
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Post by einebierbitte on Jul 23, 2009 12:57:47 GMT -4
It's easier to look at these types of things with a detached attitude and point of view rather than put yourself into the victims' shoes. It's also easier for people to instantly assume that the victim must have done something wrong in order to deserve the received treatment. After all, questioning authority's decisions requires too much work and makes you a public enemy. If you were the victim, you would feel differently, I assure you. If that day should come, here's hoping that there are people willing and able to speak out on your behalf. In this instance who is the victim? IMO the Police Officer is.....
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Post by shoregurrl on Jul 23, 2009 13:07:04 GMT -4
The person with no power is the victim.
Police, when ordered to do something by someone else, can indeed be the victim.
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Post by Water Lady on Jul 23, 2009 13:19:24 GMT -4
It's easier to look at these types of things with a detached attitude and point of view rather than put yourself into the victims' shoes. It's also easier for people to instantly assume that the victim must have done something wrong in order to deserve the received treatment. After all, questioning authority's decisions requires too much work and makes you a public enemy. If you were the victim, you would feel differently, I assure you. If that day should come, here's hoping that there are people willing and able to speak out on your behalf. I do not believe that having a different opinion on this or any issue necessarily means one has a "detached attitude or point of view." As for "instantly assuming the victim must have done something wrong in order to deserve the received treatment;" would that be kind of like the poor rape "victim" in the Duke Lacrosse debacle a couple years back? IMHO, far too many people have decided that we are a victim-based society and they live their lives, make their decisions and see everyday life from that very perspective. So sad...
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Post by falgar25 on Jul 23, 2009 13:33:01 GMT -4
It's easier to look at these types of things with a detached attitude and point of view rather than put yourself into the victims' shoes. It's also easier for people to instantly assume that the victim must have done something wrong in order to deserve the received treatment. After all, questioning authority's decisions requires too much work and makes you a public enemy. If you were the victim, you would feel differently, I assure you. If that day should come, here's hoping that there are people willing and able to speak out on your behalf. Questioning authority is one thing, working from a belief that that authorities are always wrong is something else. non-victim=detached, victim=more aware ? Maybe. But it could also be that: non-victim=unbiased, victim=axe to grind
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Post by pete1 on Jul 23, 2009 14:17:06 GMT -4
My True Gates Type Story..........I'm 11 yrs old coming home from school on my bicycle when I'm arrested by two Balto. City Detectives for burglary. They put me in their car and took me down town where a 300 lbs. big mouth Lieutenant physically threw me in the corner screaming in my face causing me to cry. A woman who was 1/2 block away had pointed me out as the burglar. Two days later the burglar was arrested breaking into a another house. He was 16 yrs. old with dark hair, and had rotten teeth. I was 11 yrs. old with light hair, and perfect teeth.....Ten years later I was 6'-2" 220 lbs., and a Balto. City Policeman when I ran into this tough guy Lieutenant. I told him who I was, and dared him to throw me in the corner in front of 6 cops. The Lieutenant PUNKED OUT.
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Post by crabbyjohn on Jul 23, 2009 14:34:16 GMT -4
I have heard different versions of the story in the media and they most are trying to portray the police as wrong. If a police officer shows up at my house and asks me for identification because they think I may be a burgular, I am going to show them ID. If they had ignored the call from the neighbors who reported the "break-in", they would have been criticized for not protecting the owner's property. It doesn't matter whether there are two white guys, hispanics or black guys tryng to pry my door open, I sure hope that I have neighbors that care enough to call the police. Then I hope that the police care enough to show up and attempt to protect my property. If it all a misunderstanding, then everyone can go on their way. From what I can gather, this guy was just looking for any reason to play the race card. His own neighbors didn't even recognize him trying to get in his house, how do the police know that he is the homeowner as he staes without ID?
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Post by einebierbitte on Jul 23, 2009 14:35:09 GMT -4
It's easier to look at these types of things with a detached attitude and point of view rather than put yourself into the victims' shoes. It's also easier for people to instantly assume that the victim must have done something wrong in order to deserve the received treatment. After all, questioning authority's decisions requires too much work and makes you a public enemy. If you were the victim, you would feel differently, I assure you. If that day should come, here's hoping that there are people willing and able to speak out on your behalf. Questioning authority is one thing, working from a belief that that authorities are always wrong is something else. non-victim=detached, victim=more aware ? Maybe. But it could also be that: non-victim=unbiased, victim=axe to grind there are a lot of victims out there with axe's to grind.....^ ^ ^
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Post by islandgirl on Jul 23, 2009 14:43:23 GMT -4
agreed crabbyjohn.
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Post by constructr on Jul 23, 2009 15:36:58 GMT -4
Sounds like another incident of someone acting like an ass and using "the race card" as ammo.
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Post by island tech on Jul 23, 2009 16:31:43 GMT -4
The officer in question is an instructor on Racial profiling in the Lowell Police department. He was appointed by his Captain who is African American. He islo is the police officer who administered CPR to former NBA player for the Celtics Reggie Lewis. This officer doesn't sound like he is the problem!
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Post by goobastank on Jul 23, 2009 16:34:41 GMT -4
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Post by islandgirl on Jul 23, 2009 16:59:49 GMT -4
Obama made a comment on this last night. In about the only 2 minutes I could bear to watch. He said that Gates was a friend and that the Cambridge police acted stupidly! There's more to this story than just they arrested him for nothing. Seems like our President opened his mouth before thinking, just like the remark he made about his bowling . I just dont understand why Everything always has to be racial?
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Post by constructr on Jul 23, 2009 17:15:57 GMT -4
Whats interesting is that after reading information available, the only racist seems to be Mr. Gates. And his buddy, BO.
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Post by jetdoc on Jul 23, 2009 17:25:08 GMT -4
Whats interesting is that after reading information available, the only racist seems to be Mr. Gates. And his buddy, BO. Right on. As the officer said Obama needs to "butt out" and for Gates being as educated as he is suppose to be you think he would think twice before throwing out the race card.
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Post by linda712 on Jul 23, 2009 17:29:55 GMT -4
Good for that officer. If Obama say's "stupidity" -- the officer can say "butt out"! Level the playing field. I agree with all comments on Gates throwing the race card. I found an interview with him from '94, quite lengthy, but equally interesting. He is a racist in my mind, just trying to falsely cover it up with an education..................I also agree he brought it on himself. Did you know he was married to a white woman? Did you know his mother hated white people? Wow, talk about issues! I'm going to go get that interview I found and post it, in case anyone is interested. Here's video (years old): www.democracynow.org/2004/1/8/america_behind_the_color_line_aHere's an interview (1994). I just found it interesting: www.booknotes.org/Transcript/?ProgramID=1220
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