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Post by lynn on Oct 9, 2009 21:45:39 GMT -4
Dang... Got here late for the Klan meetin'. How's the Grand Wizard? Geeesh, yes, Obama doesn't deserve it because he is black. I thought you had to be registered to post.
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Post by Water Lady on Oct 9, 2009 22:38:08 GMT -4
Stan Fields: What is the one most important thing our society needs? Gracie Hart: That would be... harsher punishment for parole violators, Stan. [crowd is silent] Gracie Hart: And world peace! [crowd cheers ecstatically] Frank, you are TRULY my hero! (Ya beat me to the punch on this one; it was the first thing I thought of when I saw WL's post). We're not worthy! ;D 'twas Gracie I was thinking of and remember the night she called out for pizza??? ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Water Lady on Oct 9, 2009 22:39:50 GMT -4
Dang... Got here late for the Klan meetin'. How's the Grand Wizard? now that's just too sad
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Post by Water Lady on Oct 9, 2009 22:43:58 GMT -4
Press Release: The Nobel Peace Prize for 2009The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons. Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama's initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened. Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population. For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world's leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama's appeal that "Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges." Oslo, October 9, 2009 He has? They have? It will? It is? It has? We do? WHO SAYS???
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Post by RobMoore on Oct 9, 2009 22:51:43 GMT -4
While I don't think he has done anything significant enough to deserve a Nobel Peace Prize, there are two things that come to mind.
#1 In the last decade or so the Nobel Peace Prize has become somewhat of a joke. (Kofi Anon, Jimmy Carter, Al Gore)
#2 I can't think of anyone more deserving than Obama, but that is only because I don't follow world events very closely. Surely the committee in charge of selecting the nominees MUST be able to find someone more deserving than BHO.
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Post by Water Lady on Oct 9, 2009 23:02:03 GMT -4
What happened to MJ's post from 10:40pm???
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Post by Water Lady on Oct 9, 2009 23:14:40 GMT -4
While I don't think he has done anything significant enough to deserve a Nobel Peace Prize, there are two things that come to mind. #1 In the last decade or so the Nobel Peace Prize has become somewhat of a joke. (Kofi Anon, Jimmy Carter, Al Gore) #2 I can't think of anyone more deserving than Obama, but that is only because I don't follow world events very closely. Surely the committee in charge of selecting the nominees MUST be able to find someone more deserving than BHO. www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/other-possibilities-for-nobel-peace-prizepp/1042937There is a pattern here of people who have actually "done" something...
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Post by harvestmoon on Oct 9, 2009 23:39:28 GMT -4
Dear John (guest), NO--take you charge of racism and cram it up your a$$. I'm sick of political dissent and criticism being rhetorically defined as racism. Address the ISSUES or leave the forum. I recall Saturday night live mocking the lack of accomplishments of the president last week, they must be racists too?
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Post by nightpurse99 on Oct 10, 2009 0:00:37 GMT -4
Now the Nobel Prize is a joke, and they are getting flak for it's choice from the E.U. It makes Barack Hussein Obama look like the butt of the joke and now he's a bit upset due to the fact that he has to respond to the questions which are being raised AND not offend the prize it self. Umm Ummm Ummm
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Post by dej on Oct 10, 2009 2:35:15 GMT -4
I'm sure there were was some stiff competition for President Obama for this award. After all, others have also contributed to keeping peace in the world. A couple quickly come to mind.
Let's not overlook Prime Minister Vladimir Putin (or his puppet President Dmitry Medvedev) for only occupying part of Georgia after their invasion.
It could have been given to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for not nuking Israel (not yet, anyway), or to Israel for not conducting a pre-emptive strike against Iran (not yet, anyway). There's also Ahmadinejad's puppet master, Ayatollah Sayyid Ali Khamenei to consider. His studies and interpretations of Islam influence clerics throughout the Middle East. Last year he helped clarify that Islamic law does not permit the death penalty for males under the age of 15 or females under the age of 9. (Ladies first, I guess??)
Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah also advanced the cause of women's rights in his country, and his actions are often influential throughout the Middle East. He created a women's branch for his nation's Human Rights Commission. My guess is he probably lost points because of a few kinks to still be worked out with that branch. Its board is composed entirely of men, and sees no problem with women needing permission from a male guardian work, study or marry.
Then there's Kim Jong-Il. He does keep firing missiles, but at least he doesn't aim them at anyone, yet.
We shouldn't just focus on famous people. After all, there are some lesser known leaders that may have qualified as well.
Than Shwe, the ruler of Myanmar could have been a candidate for his cooperation with foreign aid groups after Cyclone Nargis left almost 150,000 dead or missing and 2 million homeless. It was just minor details, like getting a rigged election out the way, that slowed his cooperation. On top of that, he has provided "protection" for former Nobel Peace Prize winner Aung San Suu Kyi for years. The fact that some call that protection "house arrest" could be just semantics.
My pick would have been Isayas Afeweki of Eritrea, for his intense study of factors that polarize segments of a nation's society. After all, this is an issue that can affect many parts of the world. His studies showed him that it is elections that polarize society the most. Looking back over our own history, and other elections around the world just in the last couple decades show he may be on to something here. I'm sure the leadership in our own Congress & White House would like to consider his solutions, which consist of banning any further elections for at least three or four decades, combined with government control of all forms of media.
In the end, all these people lost. After all, none of them can read speeches on Hope from a teleprompter as well as our very own President did during his campaign, earning his nomination for the Peace Prize just two weeks after his inaugural address to the nation.
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Post by nightpurse99 on Oct 10, 2009 5:41:21 GMT -4
Then there's Kim Jong-Il. He does keep firing missiles, but at least he doesn't aim them at anyone, yet.
I love that!! Actually he has aimed them EVERYTIME....... they are just missed fired , off target, or blow up on launch!! Bhawwwwwahahahah Thats funny
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Post by pete1 on Oct 10, 2009 8:51:42 GMT -4
Lynn........Everyday is April 1st when politics are involved. Just look at Washington D.C., and Annapolis.
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Post by island tech on Oct 10, 2009 10:06:13 GMT -4
IT - sorry, if I were to win it now, I'd take the $1.4 million and run -unfortunately, based on the requirements for winning it, I would remain a pauper Ok I retract that statement and would accept the 1.4 mill. Then sell the award on ebay.
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Post by pete1 on Oct 10, 2009 10:09:54 GMT -4
My Friends...........The average American is for TRUTH, JUSTICE. and THE AMERICAN WAY. We all want an even playing field, and we root for the underdog. Examples are Jackie Robinson for one, and Rockie Balboa for another. Anyone with common sense would figure that the President would be put on the spot for winning the peace prize that he did not earn. Therefore I would conclude that the fix was in, and was orchestrated by enemies of the President. In the minds of the average American the prize made the President look bad.....What do you think?
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Post by falgar25 on Oct 10, 2009 10:23:04 GMT -4
Anyone who wants to make me look bad by arranging that I win an Internationally recognized award that comes with $1.4M..... PLEASE FEEL FREE!
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Post by pete1 on Oct 10, 2009 10:33:35 GMT -4
falgar25.... My friend. Your are not the President. When the President looks bad we all look bad. Winning a unearned prize hurts our country.
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Post by RobMoore on Oct 10, 2009 14:37:35 GMT -4
I think the fix was in, but they had intended giving him the prize to be a positive thing. Its a liberal prize for liberal recipients. I don't think they gave it to him to hurt him. That is just a pleasant side effect.
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Post by Water Lady on Oct 10, 2009 15:43:16 GMT -4
IT - sorry, if I were to win it now, I'd take the $1.4 million and run -unfortunately, based on the requirements for winning it, I would remain a pauper Ok I retract that statement and would accept the 1.4 mill. Then sell the award on ebay. OK - then I agree with that too - really, I think this would be a much better option ;D ;D ;D
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Post by jimbo on Oct 10, 2009 16:09:44 GMT -4
I think the fix was in, but they had intended giving him the prize to be a positive thing. Its a liberal prize for liberal recipients. I don't think they gave it to him to hurt him. That is just a pleasant side effect.
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Post by funnel101 on Oct 10, 2009 16:13:23 GMT -4
That's the thing: when the President fails, we all are hurt by it.
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Post by jimbo on Oct 10, 2009 18:56:16 GMT -4
falgar25.... My friend. Your are not the President. When the President looks bad we all look bad. Winning a unearned prize hurts our country. Our President doesn't look bad, and is a welcome change in the eyes of the rest of the world, hence the prize. Strength through diplomatic abilities rather than failed policies of the past 8 years. A rundown of reaction to the President winning the Nobel Peace prize. “For the time being Obama’s just making proposals. But sometimes the Nobel Committee awards the prize to encourage responsible action,” he said. “Let’s give Obama a chance.” - Lech Walesa “I cannot think of anyone today more deserving of this honor,” he said. “In less than a year in office, he has transformed the way we look at ourselves and the world we live in and rekindled hope for a world at peace with itself.” - Mohamed Elbaradei, the director-general of the United Nations International Atomic Energy Agency “Very few leaders if at all were able to change the mood of the entire world in such a short while with such a profound impact. You provided the entire humanity with fresh hope, with intellectual determination, and a feeling that there is a lord in heaven and believers on earth.” - President Shimon Peres of Israel “He really deserved it, he is more than a politician. Even though not enough time has passed for a full judgment, we can see that through his speeches, some decisions he made and his legislation that he is trying to mend the faults which his predecessor has created. Obama is trying to make his words meet his acts and he has a genuine intention in building good human relations, especially with the Muslim world.” - Hussein Ali Harrif, the head of the artistic education department at the University of Baghdad “Love the dude, but all he’s done on the peace side of things is make a few nice speeches and not go to war with anyone else. They are handing him the Nobel Peace Prize because he isn’t George Bush.” - Ibrahim Assem, 32, an Egyptian who works as a portfolio manager in London I’m sure that the president is very honored to receive this award. And Nobel Committee, I can’t divine all their intentions, but I think part of their decision-making was expectations. And I’m sure the president understands that he now has even more to live up to. But as Americans, we’re proud when our president receives an award of that prestigious category.- John McCain “They love a weakened, neutered U.S, and this is their way of promoting that concept. I think God has a great sense of humor, too.” - Rush Limbaugh “The real question Americans are asking is, ‘What has President Obama actually accomplished?’ It is unfortunate that the president’s star power has outshined tireless advocates who have made real achievements working towards peace and human rights. One thing is certain - President Obama won’t be receiving any awards from Americans for job creation, fiscal responsibility, or backing up rhetoric with concrete action.” - RNC Chairman Michael Steele “We have seen no change in his strategy for peace. He has done nothing for peace in Afghanistan. We condemn the award of the Nobel Peace Prize for Obama. When Obama was elected president, we were hopeful he would keep his promise to bring change. But he brought no change, he has continued the same old strategy as Bush.” -Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid Interesting how the Taliban, Limbaugh, Steele and a slew of conservatives are all in agreement.
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Post by dej on Oct 10, 2009 19:17:26 GMT -4
Nice rehash of the DNC talking points. Anything original to offer?
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Post by jimbo on Oct 10, 2009 19:27:53 GMT -4
Nice rehash of the DNC talking points. Anything original to offer? Nice rehash of the right wing agenda. Anything original to offer? Please note, quotes from both the left and right, as well as my own thoughts were presented up there. Maybe you missed that.
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Post by island tech on Oct 10, 2009 23:12:15 GMT -4
falgar25.... My friend. Your are not the President. When the President looks bad we all look bad. Winning a unearned prize hurts our country. Our President doesn't look bad, and is a welcome change in the eyes of the rest of the world, hence the prize. Strength through diplomatic abilities rather than failed policies of the past 8 years. Too bad you voted for the wrong change! I guess you voted for the change in the deficit? What is it now double or triple what it was before he came into office? Or the change of mind by Obama in taxing families who make under 250k a year? No thanks you can keep the change!
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Post by hale80 on Oct 10, 2009 23:30:26 GMT -4
Our President doesn't look bad, and is a welcome change in the eyes of the rest of the world, hence the prize. Strength through diplomatic abilities rather than failed policies of the past 8 years. Too bad you voted for the wrong change! I guess you voted for the change in the deficit? What is it now double or triple what it was before he came into office? Or the change of mind by Obama in taxing families who make under 250k a year? No thanks you can keep the change! IT - right on! How's that change working for you now? I think we will here more of us asking that same question of those who voted for the "annointed one" as the weeks and months go by. Barack Hussein Obama, ummm, ummm, ummm...
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