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Post by safetildecember on Oct 14, 2009 11:33:30 GMT -4
Drug test by hair analysis then you will know who has relapsed and who has not. If you are going by urine test or the patients word, you are being duped. I also take issue with your statement previously that drug addiction does not happen quickly. It most certainly can whether it is someone doing cocaine, heroin, crack, meth or prescription pain medication. Addiction to these drugs can happen very quickly.
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Post by kl on Oct 14, 2009 12:12:53 GMT -4
Drug test by hair analysis then you will know who has relapsed and who has not. If you are going by urine test or the patients word, you are being duped. I also take issue with your statement previously that drug addiction does not happen quickly. It most certainly can whether it is someone doing cocaine, heroin, crack, meth or prescription pain medication. Addiction to these drugs can happen very quickly. But I also think the individual should be taken in to account also. Why do some get addicted, and others don't?
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Post by safetildecember on Oct 14, 2009 12:55:35 GMT -4
Drug test by hair analysis then you will know who has relapsed and who has not. If you are going by urine test or the patients word, you are being duped. I also take issue with your statement previously that drug addiction does not happen quickly. It most certainly can whether it is someone doing cocaine, heroin, crack, meth or prescription pain medication. Addiction to these drugs can happen very quickly. But I also think the individual should be taken in to account also. Why do some get addicted, and others don't? Exactly! It is the same with those who abuse others sexually and violently. Some victims go on to abuse others and some do not. Everyone is an individual and everyone that has a normal IQ is responsible for their own behavior whether they have mental and emotional issues or not.
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Post by stephadele on Oct 14, 2009 13:43:46 GMT -4
Safe..you have to ask the question first why someone would be motivated to take crack and cocaine to begin with. Relief from unbearable feelings and anxiety and depression is the most popular reason Ive seen regarding why someone becomes addicted to a substance with compulsive use....Those unbearable feelings dont happen overnight, they occur over a long period of time from past abuse, stress and trauma and development of poor coping skills along the way that wasnt modeled to them as children...Living with an alcoholic/addict parent also produced children who act out compulsively and are more likely to develop addictions...That process of making an addict can take maany years before full blown addiction as an adult. Children model and learn what they see from their parents...that includes learning dysfunctional coping skills when faced with dissapointment, sadness, anger, resentment.. If you dont want so many addicts, help their parents conquor addiction so the lifestyle and the dysfunctional coping skills and trauma of living with that arent passed on to the children. You cant practice responsible behavior if "responsible" behavior isnt modeled to you as child/teen in the first place...Addicts have no idea what that looks like, much less how to do it...They also arent in touch with what they are feeling when reaching for substances so they cant identify triggers that make them use abusively..its a vicious cycle Then it must be learned as an adult....that takes years to develop and often years to reverse or change because change involving different cognitions/thinking and behaviors and addressing feelings ALL at the same time...no small feat.
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Post by shorti on Oct 14, 2009 15:26:14 GMT -4
While i don't doubt or discredit what you are saying here stephadele - but I've known some that have had a good childhood - responsible, reasonable, rational parents... and they turn into addicts... Like safe is saying (and holy cow! I'm agreeing ) there are drugs out there that someone tries "just once" and end up hooked... and it has nothing to do w/ their upbringing & there isn't a long time to be addicted... And here's where I'm going to get smited... at some point - it was a choice as well. And until that is recognized & accepted, then you will still have a problem. What I mean is - example... I smoke - I knew the dangers of smoking when I first lit up, I knew the addiction of it, but I made a CHOICE to smoke. At some point you make a choice to drink or do drugs... albeit a bad choice - as my smoking one was - nobody forced me to do it. I also agree w/stephadele that yes, there are many times underlying factors to the "why's" behind someone's addiction & if that isn't cured/treated - then treating the addiction won't be very effective. I get that...
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Post by stephadele on Oct 14, 2009 15:52:34 GMT -4
Its true shorti, that some get involved with drugs or alcohol without apparent (that we know of) bad upbringing at home....But appearances are often deceiving..Can you be really sure about someone's homelife unless you live in it 24/7?..And Ive spoken to alot of folks whose homelife looks great to outsiders or friends but terrible in reality....It can be very easy for an addict, especially the town pillar or professional, to "look good" even to his extended family while his kids are suffering terribly in isolated sadness..... The vast majority of addicts I see come from homes where well meaning but very disfunctional parents teach their kids poor coping strategies either by neglect or bad example....The parents arent monsters but they are harming their children, often inadvertently.. No one forces someone to behave addictively but you have to look at it this way: If thats the only kind of coping you know well when angry, sad, hurting, you cant change your behavior to what you arent knowledgeable about. How many of us have been in situations where we had no idea our behavior was hurtful and harmful to others or ourselves?....I think most of us... So that goes for all of us.
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Post by safetildecember on Oct 17, 2009 9:27:47 GMT -4
On the drug note, the town pillar could look good but not only could his/her kids be on drugs, they pillar themselves could be a drug addict as well. Don't judge a book by the cover. As far as money spent on the military, Congress, Democrats and Republicans just took 2.6 Billion dollars away from the military OM to spend on things like museums. I think Kerry was responsible for 250 million on a school named after Ted Kennedy. We all know Ted led such an angelic life.
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Post by stephadele on Oct 17, 2009 23:48:09 GMT -4
Ted may not have been an angel in his personal life but Im grateful to him for the work he did on healthcare for the state of Mass. He coauthored a bill that provided free health clinics in the state.. I broke my leg falling on the ice several years ago while working two part time jobs....I did not have health insurance then. Fortunately the city I lived in had two free healthcare clinics...I paid a 5 dollar co pay for every appointment...They provided emergency room services...even the crutches I used...Without that service, I would have been in deep debt trying to slowly pay off medical bills while not making much money.....It was there when I needed it and allowed me to continue to go to work to both part time job: one teaching students, the other seeing clients...
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Post by safetildecember on Oct 19, 2009 9:33:12 GMT -4
FDA announces it is going to ease up on the Medical Marijuana prosecutions in the 14 states that allow medical marijuana.
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Post by deputy on Oct 19, 2009 11:59:06 GMT -4
FDA announces it is going to ease up on the Medical Marijuana prosecutions in the 14 states that allow medical marijuana. They were told to by the almighty "O"
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Post by funnel101 on Oct 19, 2009 12:55:43 GMT -4
FDA announces it is going to ease up on the Medical Marijuana prosecutions in the 14 states that allow medical marijuana. About. d**n. Time.
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Post by falgar25 on Oct 19, 2009 14:55:52 GMT -4
FDA announces it is going to ease up on the Medical Marijuana prosecutions in the 14 states that allow medical marijuana. I'm all for easing up on the prosecution of those whose medical condition truly benefits from Medical Marijuana treatment. HOWEVER, there's no doubt in my mind that there is more than one someone out there whose "medical condition" is nothing more than a strong desire to be "treated" with Medical Marijuana. Unfortunately, there is always someone around to abuse the system.
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Post by safetildecember on Nov 2, 2009 22:36:10 GMT -4
This is good for all to read. Rebulican or Democrat.. These words are so very true. Spoken like a true American... This was written by Sherry Hackett, Buddy Hackett's widow........
"WE NOTICED"
President Obama:
Today I read of your administrations' plan to re-define September 11 as a National Service Day. Sir, it's time we had a talk.........
During your campaign, Americans watched as you made mockery of our tradition of standing and crossing your heart when the Pledge of Allegiance was spoken. You, out of four people on the stage, were the only one not honoring our tradition.
YES, "We noticed."
During one of your many speeches, Americans heard you say that you intended to visit all 57 states. We all know that Islam, not America has 57 states.
YES, "We noticed."
When President Bush leaned over at Ground Zero and gently placed a flower on the memorial, while you nonchalantly tossed your flower onto the pile without leaning over.
YES, "We noticed."
Every time you apologized to other countries for America 's position on an issue we have wondered why you don't share our pride in this great country. When you have heard foreign leaders berate our country and our beliefs, you have not defended us. In fact, you insulted the British Crown beyond belief.
YES, "We noticed."
When your pastor of 20 years, "God-d**ned America " and said that 9/11 was "America's chickens coming home to roost" and you denied having heard recriminations of that nature, we wondered how that could be. You later disassociated yourself from that church and Pastor Wright because it was politically expedient to do so.
YES, "We noticed."
When you announced that you would transform America , we wondered why. With all her faults, America is the greatest country on earth. Sir, KEEP THIS IN MIND, "if not for America and the people who built her, you wouldn't be sitting in the White House now." Prior to your election to the highest office in this Country, you were a senator from Illinois and from what we can glean from the records available, not a very remarkable one.
YES, "We noticed."
All through your campaign and even now, you have surrounded yourself with individuals who are basically unqualified for the positions for which you appointed them. Worse than that, the majority of them are people who, like you, bear no special allegiance, respect, or affection for this country and her traditions.
YES, "We noticed."
You are 9 months into your term and every morning millions of Americans wake up to a new horror heaped on us by you. You seek to saddle working Americans with a health care/insurance reform package that, along with cap and trade, will bankrupt this nation.
YES, "We noticed."
We seek, by protesting, to let our representatives know that we are not in favor of these crippling expenditures and we are labeled "un-American","racist", "mob". We wonder how we are supposed to let you know how frustrated we are. You have attempted to make our protests seem isolated and insignificant. Until your appointment, Americans had the right to speak out.
YES, "We noticed."
On September 11, 2001 there were no Republicans or Democrats, only Americans. And we all grieved together and helped each other in whatever way we could. The attack on 9/11 was carried out because we are Americans. And YES, "We noticed."
There were many of us who prayed that as a black president you could help unite this nation. In six months you have done more to destroy this nation than the attack on 9/11. You have failed us.
YES, "We noticed."
September 11 is a day of remembrance for all Americans. You propose to make 9/11 a "National Service Day". While we know that you don't share our reverence for 9/11, we pray that history will report your proposal as what it is...a disgrace.
YES, "We noticed."
You have made a mockery of our Constitution and the office that you hold. You have embarrassed and slighted us in foreign visits and policy. YES, "We noticed.."
We have noticed all these things. We will deal with you. When Americans come together again, it will be to remove you from office.
Take notice.
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Post by jimbo on Nov 3, 2009 7:59:45 GMT -4
My neighbor the farmer thanks you for posting that. I printed it out, shredded it, and distributed it over his field. With the BULL SH*T contained within he should have a bumper crop next year!
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Post by speedergurl68 on Nov 3, 2009 8:35:18 GMT -4
My neighbor the farmer thanks you for posting that. I printed it out, shredded it, and distributed it over his field. With the BULL SH*T contained within he should have a bumper crop next year! My, that educated and intelligent response makes me rethink my entire philosophy on life....oh, no...wait....
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Post by safetildecember on Nov 3, 2009 10:18:57 GMT -4
My neighbor the farmer thanks you for posting that. I printed it out, shredded it, and distributed it over his field. With the BULL SH*T contained within he should have a bumper crop next year! My, that educated and intelligent response makes me rethink my entire philosophy on life....oh, no...wait.... HAHA! I am no Sherry Hackett.
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Post by eileen on Nov 3, 2009 11:00:36 GMT -4
My neighbor the farmer thanks you for posting that. I printed it out, shredded it, and distributed it over his field. With the BULL SH*T contained within he should have a bumper crop next year! Agree that an intelligent comeback would have been preferable to that nasty rant. Identify those points with which you disagree and give us your reasoning for doing so.
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Post by hale80 on Nov 3, 2009 21:52:40 GMT -4
I wouldn't bother waiting for that...some people will never get it. However, I'm sure Stephadele will be along soon to tell us all what this really means - you know - she is the 20 year expert and the rest of us are just closed-minded, idiots.
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Post by safetildecember on Nov 3, 2009 23:19:37 GMT -4
Hooray for NJ and VA. Time to take America Back.
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Post by kl on Nov 4, 2009 7:13:50 GMT -4
My neighbor the farmer thanks you for posting that. I printed it out, shredded it, and distributed it over his field. With the BULL SH*T contained within he should have a bumper crop next year! Agree that an intelligent comeback would have been preferable to that nasty rant. Identify those points with which you disagree and give us your reasoning for doing so. One, I think the reply was posted more for sarcasm. Second, the initial post, pulled from the 'net, could honestly be used for both the current pres, as well as the former pres. Me? I'm still waiting for all of the supporters of the former administration to chime in and state why we are still in Afghanistan and Iraq? 6 to 8 years later? Another topic that I would like to see discussed is Cheney's inability to "recall" anything in regards to the Libby Plame fiasco, only a month after it all hit the fan. I honestly think Cheney should find a deep black hole to crawl into and cuddle up with the bottomfeeders.
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Post by kl on Nov 4, 2009 7:15:03 GMT -4
Hooray for NJ and VA. Time to take America Back. Take America back? From who? Where did America go? Who took America? Think we need to get to the bottom of this really quick, and arrest those scoundrels!! ;D
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Post by safetildecember on Nov 4, 2009 7:37:55 GMT -4
Agree that an intelligent comeback would have been preferable to that nasty rant. Identify those points with which you disagree and give us your reasoning for doing so. One, I think the reply was posted more for sarcasm. Second, the initial post, pulled from the 'net, could honestly be used for both the current pres, as well as the former pres. Me? I'm still waiting for all of the supporters of the former administration to chime in and state why we are still in Afghanistan and Iraq? 6 to 8 years later? Another topic that I would like to see discussed is Cheney's inability to "recall" anything in regards to the Libby Plame fiasco, only a month after it all hit the fan. I honestly think Cheney should find a deep black hole to crawl into and cuddle up with the bottomfeeders. "We" are in Iraq building things like roads, schools and infrastructure and training the Iraqi police and people to take care of themselves. Maybe if Clinton had done something about terrorism while he was in office and had the chance we would not be in this mess to the degree we are in now.
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Post by jimbo on Nov 4, 2009 7:49:41 GMT -4
Maybe if Clinton had done something about terrorism while he was in office and had the chance we would not be in this mess to the degree we are in now. Perhaps bin Laden ran out of the money Reagan spent to support him and al Quada and THAT'S what pissed him off about the US?
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Post by safetildecember on Nov 4, 2009 9:40:56 GMT -4
Maybe if Clinton had done something about terrorism while he was in office and had the chance we would not be in this mess to the degree we are in now. Perhaps bin Laden ran out of the money Reagan spent to support him and al Quada and THAT'S what pissed him off about the US? Clinton was offered Bin Laden's head on a platter much like Salome offered John The Baptist's head to the King and Clinton declined.
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Post by kl on Nov 4, 2009 10:37:09 GMT -4
One, I think the reply was posted more for sarcasm. Second, the initial post, pulled from the 'net, could honestly be used for both the current pres, as well as the former pres. Me? I'm still waiting for all of the supporters of the former administration to chime in and state why we are still in Afghanistan and Iraq? 6 to 8 years later? Another topic that I would like to see discussed is Cheney's inability to "recall" anything in regards to the Libby Plame fiasco, only a month after it all hit the fan. I honestly think Cheney should find a deep black hole to crawl into and cuddle up with the bottomfeeders. "We" are in Iraq building things like roads, schools and infrastructure and training the Iraqi police and people to take care of themselves. Maybe if Clinton had done something about terrorism while he was in office and had the chance we would not be in this mess to the degree we are in now. Right..The roads, schools, infrastructure that we destroyed? Iraq? Right? Where GW claimed victory in 2003? And we've been an occupying force since?
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