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Post by kl on Nov 4, 2009 10:37:43 GMT -4
Perhaps bin Laden ran out of the money Reagan spent to support him and al Quada and THAT'S what pissed him off about the US? Clinton was offered Bin Laden's head on a platter much like Salome offered John The Baptist's head to the King and Clinton declined. And Bush had 8 years to find him..How did that turn out?
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Post by lynn on Nov 4, 2009 11:16:57 GMT -4
Clinton was offered Bin Laden's head on a platter much like Salome offered John The Baptist's head to the King and Clinton declined. And Bush had 8 years to find him..How did that turn out? When Bush came into office, Bin Laden went deep into hiding because he knew that America had a President who was going to search non-stop for his terrorist butt. Clinton had the opportunity to take Bin Laden out several times. The one time he was in his office and wouldn't open the door because he was receiving oral sex from Monica Lewinsky (maybe he was, maybe he wasn't, but apparently she was in the oval office the one time they were trying to get a response from him).
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Post by lynn on Nov 4, 2009 11:19:27 GMT -4
SPREAD THE WORD!!!
IF ANYONE IS FREE TOMORROW AND IS GOING TO BE IN DC OR CAN GO TO DC!!
.... This is from Newt Gingrich's site:
If you haven't heard, Speaker Pelosi will try to ram through the House a $1.3 trillion, 1990-page government-run health care bill this week.
With our very freedom at stake, I have an important request to make of you:
Come to Washington, DC this Thursday, November 5, at Noon for a nationwide "House Call" to protest this government takeover of our health care system.
OR:
If you can't make the trip to DC, join the protest by calling your Member of Congress' office on Thursday at Noon.
I know coming to Washington, DC is a lot to ask, and I wouldn't be asking if I did not think it was critical. But this could be our only chance to stop the government from taking our freedom by taking over our health care.
If you can make it to Washington, DC, Members of Congress will be holding a rally at noon on the East steps of the U.S. Capitol, followed by walking the halls of Congress and the Capitol office buildings to share your concerns directly with your representative and his or her staff. We're hoping as many people as possible responds to the "House Call" to demonstrate our strong opposition to Pelosi's plan for government-run health care.
See more details here and RSVP for the "House Call" rally.
The overwhelming outcry at the August town halls was a clear sign that the American people reject a government takeover of health care. But now it's as if Speaker Pelosi is pretending those town halls never happened. They are more determined than ever to ram through this legislation without listening to the wishes of the American people.
Before the House votes later this week on spending $1.3 trillion to create a government-run healthcare system, we have another chance to make our voices heard.
I hope you'll join the "House Call" this Thursday.
Sincerely,
Newt Gingrich General Chairman American Solutions
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Post by lynn on Nov 4, 2009 11:31:02 GMT -4
How many of you take advantage of your Flex Spending Accounts at work? I do.
Do you know in the healthcare plan something else that has been put in there is to limit how much we can put in our accounts. In order to make up for the needed money to run this plan, all flex spending HEALTH accounts will be decreased from the maximum of $5000 to $2,500. So, where we could get a tax break on our health expenses, now we will only get a small break.
The huge majority of people who use the flex spending accounts are the middle class. So, by taking away this from the citizens is a huge tax on everyone, the middle class specifically.
Also, do you know what else is in the plan? There will be extra taxes put on medical devices. So, Grandma's walker will have an extra tax, my uncle will pay an extra tax on his pace maker. People who use breathing machines, insulin injection devices, walking devices, hearing aids, dentures, braces, wheelchairs, scooters, walking canes, etc.... they will all have an EXTRA TAX to pay for their medical devices!!
Listen, I know everyone wants to have some type of medical reform, but THIS IS NOT A GOOD BILL FOR ANYONE. In order to pay for some changes, they are turning around and hurting the very people who need help. This bill is filled non-stop with crap. Please do not let this bill pass. Work on a bill that is a good bill for everyone.
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Post by RobMoore on Nov 4, 2009 11:48:09 GMT -4
I can't take any argument seriously when the response to criticism of the current administration is "Yeah, well Bush didn't do any better".
Its the equivalent of the schoolyard "No I'm not, You are".
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Post by funnel101 on Nov 4, 2009 11:54:25 GMT -4
Lynn, I think FSA/HSAs have hurt the middle class already. A lot of small businesses offer those INSTEAD OF health insurance, because it's cheaper. And the quality of coverage isn't even comparable.
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Post by kl on Nov 4, 2009 12:41:44 GMT -4
I can't take any argument seriously when the response to criticism of the current administration is "Yeah, well Bush didn't do any better". Its the equivalent of the schoolyard "No I'm not, You are". Understood..But when Clinton is mentioned? At least I'm talking recent history. When Obama hasn't even been in office for a year?
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Post by kl on Nov 4, 2009 12:42:45 GMT -4
I know coming to Washington, DC is a lot to ask, and I wouldn't be asking if I did not think it was critical. But this could be our only chance to stop the government from taking our freedom by taking over our health care.
Taking away our freedom?
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Post by RobMoore on Nov 4, 2009 14:14:03 GMT -4
It applies to them as well, but that leads me to another schoolyard reference about two wrongs.
I'm suprised this thread is getting so much mileage from a "copy/paste" rant reposted from who knows where by someone who joined for the sole purpose of starting this thread....and hasn't been back since post #1.
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Post by kl on Nov 4, 2009 15:36:57 GMT -4
It applies to them as well, but that leads me to another schoolyard reference about two wrongs. I'm suprised this thread is getting so much mileage from a "copy/paste" rant reposted from who knows where by someone who joined for the sole purpose of starting this thread....and hasn't been back since post #1. And needs to be made right sooner rather than later.
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Post by kl on Nov 6, 2009 8:17:21 GMT -4
The American government -- which we once called our government -- has been taken over by Wall Street, the mega-corporations and the super-rich. They are the ones who decide our fate. It is this group of powerful elites, the people President Franklin D. Roosevelt called "economic royalists," who choose our elected officials -- indeed, our very form of government. Both Democrats and Republicans dance to the tune of their corporate masters. In America, corporations do not control the government. In America, corporations are the government. This was never more obvious than with the Wall Street bailout, whereby the very corporations that caused the collapse of our economy were rewarded with taxpayer dollars. So arrogant, so smug were they that, without a moment's hesitation, they took our money -- yours and mine -- to pay their executives multimillion-dollar bonuses, something they continue doing to this very day. They have no shame. They don't care what you and I think about them. Henry Kissinger refers to us as "useless eaters." But, you say, we have elected a candidate of change. To which I respond: Do these words of President Obama sound like change? "A culture of irresponsibility took root, from Wall Street to Washington to Main Street." There it is. Right there. We are Main Street. We must, according to our president, share the blame. He went on to say: "And a regulatory regime basically crafted in the wake of a 20th-century economic crisis -- the Great Depression -- was overwhelmed by the speed, scope and sophistication of a 21st-century global economy." This is nonsense. The reason Wall Street was able to game the system the way it did -- knowing that they would become rich at the expense of the American people (oh, yes, they most certainly knew that) -- was because the financial elite had bribed our legislators to roll back the protections enacted after the Stock Market Crash of 1929. Congress gutted the Glass-Steagall Act, which separated commercial lending banks from investment banks, and passed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which allowed for self-regulation with no oversight. The Securities and Exchange Commission subsequently revised its rules to allow for even less oversight -- and we've all seen how well that worked out. To date, no serious legislation has been offered by the Obama administration to correct these problems. Instead, Obama wants to increase the oversight power of the Federal Reserve. Never mind that it already had significant oversight power before our most recent economic meltdown, yet failed to take action. Never mind that the Fed is not a government agency but a cartel of private bankers that cannot be held accountable by Washington. Whatever the Fed does with these supposed new oversight powers will be behind closed doors. Obama's failure to act sends one message loud and clear: He cannot stand up to the powerful Wall Street interests that supplied the bulk of his campaign money for the 2008 election. Nor, for that matter, can Congress, for much the same reason. Consider what multibillionaire banker David Rockefeller wrote in his 2002 memoirs: "Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure -- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." Read Rockefeller's words again. He actually admits to working against the "best interests of the United States." Need more? Here's what Rockefeller said in 1994 at a U.N. dinner: "We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order." They're gaming us. Our country has been stolen from us. Journalist Matt Taibbi, writing in Rolling Stone, notes that esteemed economist John Kenneth Galbraith laid the 1929 crash at the feet of banking giant Goldman Sachs. Taibbi goes on to say that Goldman Sachs has been behind every other economic downturn as well, including the most recent one. As if that wasn't enough, Goldman Sachs even had a hand in pushing gas prices up to $4 a gallon. The problem with bankers is longstanding. Here's what one of our Founding Fathers, Thomas Jefferson, had to say about them: "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation, and then by deflation, the banks and the corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their father's conquered." We all know that the first American Revolution officially began in 1776, with the Declaration of Independence. Less well known is that the single strongest motivating factor for revolution was the colonists' attempt to free themselves from the Bank of England. But how many of you know about the second revolution, referred to by historians as Shays' Rebellion? It took place in 1786-87, and once again the banks were the cause. This time they were putting the screws to America's farmers. Daniel Shays was a farmer in western Massachusetts. Like many other farmers of the day, he was being driven into bankruptcy by the banks' predatory lending practices. (Sound familiar?) Rallying other farmers to his side, Shays led his rebels in an attack on the courts and the local armory. The rebellion itself failed, but a message had been sent: The bankers (and the politicians who supported them) ultimately backed off. As Thomas Jefferson famously quipped in regard to the insurrection: "A little rebellion now and then is a good thing. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Perhaps it's time to consider that option once again. I'm calling for a national strike, one designed to close the country down for a day. The intent? Real campaign-finance reform and strong restrictions on lobbying. Because nothing will change until we take corporate money out of politics. Nothing will improve until our politicians are once again answerable to their constituents, not the rich and powerful. Let's set a date. No one goes to work. No one buys anything. And if that isn't effective -- if the politicians ignore us -- we do it again. And again. And again. The real war is not between the left and the right. It is between the average American and the ruling class. If we come together on this single issue, everything else will resolve itself. It's time we took back our government from those who would make us their slaves. Read more at: www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-flynt/common-sense-2009_b_264706.html&cp
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2009 9:18:48 GMT -4
Good post kl.
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Post by kl on Nov 6, 2009 9:20:57 GMT -4
Thing is MJ? See the author of the article? Had to read it a few times to make sure it was a serious article.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2009 9:42:01 GMT -4
Thing is MJ? See the author of the article? Had to read it a few times to make sure it was a serious article. That's very interesting.....still good insight. But, it's not going to gain much traction. It will probably be pigeon holed due to his business enterprises and political affiliation..
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Post by kl on Nov 6, 2009 10:11:46 GMT -4
Extremely thought provoking article. But I concur with your statement.
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Post by RobMoore on Nov 6, 2009 10:20:21 GMT -4
incite = to move to action : stir up : spur on
insight = the power or act of seeing into a situation
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Post by kl on Nov 6, 2009 10:36:19 GMT -4
Thank goodness that they've extended unemployment benefits, for millions of unemployed who were soon to see the end of their benefits.
on Tuesday it was revealed that legislation to extend unemployment insurance was being held-up by GOP Senators who were trying to dump a large list of amendments concerning ACORN and also (as The Hill reported) taking the money from the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) rather than the the unemployment surtax.
In other words taking money from the program to create jobs, thus weakening The Stimulus program. Wild.
And the concern for the the unemployment surtax shows how little GOP Senators understand America's own unemployment funding system - that surtax is funded by the worker when they're employed - many employers pass on the cost to the worker. It's not a burden on the employer, or it should not be.
Many want to know who to call to place pressure on ending this bit of political gaming because Americans who need the extension ASAP are suffering. According to a number of sources, this is the GOP call list:
GOP Senators who voted against extending benefits:
JOHN BARASSO (R-WY) 202-224-6441
CHRISTOPHER BOND (R-MO) 202-224-5721
JIM BUNNING(R-KY) 202-224-4343
THOMAS CODBURN (R-OK) 202-224-5754
JOHN CORNYN (R-TX) 202-224-2934
JIM DEMINT (R-SC) 202-224-6121
MICHAEL ENZI (R-WY) 202-224-3424
LINDSY GRAHAM (R-SC) 202-224-5972
ORRIN HATCH (R-UT) 202-224-5251
JAMES INHOEF (R-OK) 202-224-4721
JEFFERSON SESSIONS (R-AL) 202-224-4124
DAVID VITTER (R-LA) 202-224-4623
ROGER WICKER (R-MS) 202-224-6253
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2009 10:38:29 GMT -4
incite = to move to action : stir up : spur on insight = the power or act of seeing into a situation I fixed it, thanks.
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Post by funnel101 on Nov 6, 2009 12:27:19 GMT -4
"While thousands of at-risk Americans wait, some big Wall Street banks have already secured the hard-to-find H1N1 vaccine for their employees.
Building on a story that BusinessWeek broke, NBC reports that employees at the New York Stock Exchange, bankers at Goldman Sachs and Citigroup, and employees at the Federal Reserve have all received swine flu vaccine doses to administer to their employees.
In particular, NBC reports that Goldman Sachs has received 200 doses of the vaccine -- the same amount as Lenox Hill Hospital in New York. Wall Street banks, like many other companies, put in requests for the vaccine but seem to have had something of a leg up on securing doses."
www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/05/swine-flu-vaccine-banks-g_n_346907.html
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Post by safetildecember on Nov 6, 2009 12:28:30 GMT -4
Gitmo terrorists are getting it too.
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Post by kl on Nov 6, 2009 14:20:44 GMT -4
Gitmo terrorists are getting it too. Nah..They quickly corrected that one.
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Post by lynn on Nov 6, 2009 17:19:07 GMT -4
Gitmo terrorists are getting it too. Nah..They quickly corrected that one. Thank God.
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Post by safetildecember on Nov 6, 2009 17:30:41 GMT -4
Gitmo terrorists are getting it too. Nah..They quickly corrected that one. The news article in the link says the shots have arrived at Gitmo with the guards getting is first and the prisoners can get it if they want it. www.digitaljournal.com/article/281486
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Post by dej on Nov 6, 2009 19:49:00 GMT -4
Gitmo terrorists are getting it too. Nah..They quickly corrected that one. Not entirely. Gibb's statements to the White House press was that there is no H1N1 vaccine at Gitmo or enroute at that time, which was factually correct at that time. What he failed to mention is that plans are in place for it to be delivered to Gitmo for military personnel and then inmates, to be completed by the end of November.
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Post by safetildecember on Nov 6, 2009 19:53:07 GMT -4
Nah..They quickly corrected that one. Not entirely. Gibb's statements to the White House press was that there is no H1N1 vaccine at Gitmo or enroute at that time, which was factually correct at that time. What he failed to mention is that plans are in place for it to be delivered to Gitmo for military personnel and then inmates, to be completed by the end of November. I don't believe every word out of his mouth. Although most of the words out of his mouth are "uh uh uh". He irritates me so bad that I have a hard time listening to him. How he got that job is beyond me.
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