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Post by rudyhayesforever on Aug 4, 2010 4:26:32 GMT -4
Settling the siren debate once and for all, I am literally sitting on my front step, enjoying my last after-work cigarette as I type this listening to the siren go off. About 2 minutes prior, I noticed several cars flying down Old Love Point Road with their flashers on. Either these volunteers are even more heroic than I thought, being that they must have actual super powers of clairvoyance, or they're using some form of technology that alerts them a lot sooner than a siren. Regardless, it's nice to know that we have so many dedicated volunteers so quick to hop out of bed at 4am, when they probably have to work in 3 hours. There were at least four, maybe 5 on the call that passed me before the alarm reached my ears, and I live a mile from it.
We can argue all we want about the charm versus the nuisance of the siren, but one thing is for sure: These volunteers need to be compensated for this kind of selflessness. My greatest gratitude to you, call responders, both paid and volunteer!
Good night to all, good morning to most. Let's hope everyone involved is safe.
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Post by native on Aug 4, 2010 13:16:57 GMT -4
Well put Rudy... I fully agree.
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Post by highlander73 on Aug 4, 2010 13:18:37 GMT -4
I'm not sure how this settles the siren debate, but I agree.
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Post by KIGirl on Aug 7, 2010 16:27:28 GMT -4
The siren never bothered me much, but I am getting ready to move right across the street from it and am wondering how it will affect my life... maybe I will LOVE it. I must learn to embrace the siren! Yes... embrace the siren.
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Post by kp on Aug 9, 2010 10:37:27 GMT -4
Rudy, I couldn't agree more with your statement that those volunteers are heroes and should definitely get paid and paid handsomely for their work. But your example clearly demonstrates that the siren is completely unnecessary. So does the fact that it was not used for an ENTIRE WEEK during the fireman's carnival at the HS that is across the street from the siren. Perhaps it was considered that the siren would be disruptive to carnival goers which in turn would lessen the $$ earned? Hmmmmm...funny how the island didn't fall into the bay without it. Clearly there are other ways to alert the volunteers that do not create noise pollution.
KIGirl -- RUN! I live across the street from the siren and it is deafening. I regret the day I decided to move my family here. Unfortunately, I didn't have the knowledge that you have since I moved from AA County. Who would think such a thing would be in use in 2010?
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Post by jiminbaycity on Aug 10, 2010 8:35:23 GMT -4
kp,
The siren was actually used during the carnival week.You did not hear it as much because the volunteers had all the equipment with them at the carnival , therefore, they did not need to be alerted to respond to the firehouse.
KiIGirl, if you will be that close why not join the VFD they always need more people to staff the units.
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Post by kp on Aug 10, 2010 17:53:12 GMT -4
Jim, I beg to differ. I am a stay-at-home mom so I am home all day every day, and I am too close to that siren for it to go off without me knowing about it. It didn't go off once. I thought I had died and gone to siren-less heaven. Only when I woke up back in siren hell a week later did I put two and two together and connect the absence of the siren to the carnival.
I'm sure it's a lot easier not to notice the siren over in Bay City.
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Post by bchevy on Aug 10, 2010 18:02:38 GMT -4
YEah, this is settled! ;D  |
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Post by jiminbaycity on Aug 10, 2010 18:17:04 GMT -4
We shall agree to disagree then.
As for your statement
"I'm sure it's a lot easier not to notice the siren over in Bay City."
Actually I can hear it just fine and respond to the fire house when it blows.
I understand how loud it is and am sure it would be annoying to those not responding to it. There are multiple uses for it though.
All of which have been stated before.
It alerts members of an emergency who may or may not have a pager. It alerts the comunity that there is an emergency and that apparatus should be responding in the vicinity of the fire house.
I am sure this will bring out all the negative posts now
-the siren sucks
-volunteeres drive to fast
-it takes them to long to get out or they dont get out at all.
So before you bash and trash also come up with a fiable solution to the sirenthat works for everyone, not just you.
And I will present it to the orginization.
Cause lord knows I have been trying to solve the siren debate for over twenty years.
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Post by doinit on Aug 10, 2010 23:36:37 GMT -4
The siren apparently did not work for about a week cause some one cut the power to it. It since has been fixed. What a brave soul for someone to do that LOTS of volts. For who ever did it, they would have been the first one complaining when the fire dept. didn't get there fast enough!!
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Post by kp on Aug 11, 2010 12:16:57 GMT -4
Jim, you are a volunteer? God bless you and thank you! I will never have anything bad to say about the brave and awesomely unselfish volunteers. I tried myself to become one in AA County, but couldn't cut the physical mustard. I have nothing but respect and admiration for the heroes that volunteer their time and risk their lives to save others.
To me, the solution is simple: provide pagers or scanners to all that need them. If funds are needed to accomplish that, determine what the cost is and let's raise the money. I'm sure everyone living in Mallard Run and the surrounding area would gladly contribute to such a targeted effort. As far as warning the public that engines will be racing down the street, I think the engines themselves serve as enough warning on their own. In fact, I often hear them before I hear the siren! Plenty of volunteer fire departments operate very well without air sirens.
Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help.
As for the siren damage and repair: I say that instead of reparing it, the money would have been better spent on buying pagers! And again, operations were clearly able to run without it!
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Post by deputy on Aug 11, 2010 13:27:27 GMT -4
The siren apparently did not work for about a week cause some one cut the power to it. It since has been fixed. What a brave soul for someone to do that LOTS of volts. For who ever did it, they would have been the first one complaining when the fire dept. didn't get there fast enough!! To bad the huckabuck(s) that damaged it didn't get the $hit knocked out of them, or maybe they did.. SMFs |
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Post by Frank on Aug 11, 2010 14:27:04 GMT -4
I can't even hear the siren where I live. Are they taking donations to get a louder siren?
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Post by jus listn on Aug 11, 2010 15:27:58 GMT -4
Enough of this nonsense.
Move the siren to the place that it belongs, next to the new fire station.
If the people of this island didn't support the volunteers that station would never have been built.
There is no reason for us to pray at the Temple of the Siren to prove that we care about the volunteers.
Move the siren to the place that it belongs. If it costs too much money to do so, then spend it on scanners and pagers.
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Post by deputy on Aug 11, 2010 15:35:16 GMT -4
Enough of this nonsense. Move the siren to the place that it belongs, next to the new fire station. If the people of this island didn't support the volunteers that station would never have been built. There is no reason for us to pray at the Temple of the Siren to prove that we care about the volunteers. Move the siren to the place that it belongs. If it costs too much money to do so, then spend it on scanners and pagers. The only nonsense here is people complaining about it. IT WAS HERE BEFORE YOU. IT WAS HERE WHEN YOU LOOKED AT YOUR HOME (AND PROBABLY OTHER HOMES) IT WAS HERE WHEN YOU BOUGHT YOUR HOME IT WAS HERE WHEN YOU SIGNED YOUR SETTLEMENT [PAPERS IT WAS HERE WHEN YOU MOVED IN If it's so freakin' bad, MOVE If it's not so freakin' bad, SHUT UP. How's that for settling it? |
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Post by deputy on Aug 11, 2010 15:36:40 GMT -4
I can't even hear the siren where I live. Are they taking donations to get a louder siren? I'LL PITCH IN. |
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Post by jus listn on Aug 11, 2010 15:53:23 GMT -4
Enough of this nonsense. Move the siren to the place that it belongs, next to the new fire station. If the people of this island didn't support the volunteers that station would never have been built. There is no reason for us to pray at the Temple of the Siren to prove that we care about the volunteers. Move the siren to the place that it belongs. If it costs too much money to do so, then spend it on scanners and pagers. The only nonsense here is people complaining about it. IT WAS HERE BEFORE YOU. IT WAS HERE WHEN YOU LOOKED AT YOUR HOME (AND PROBABLY OTHER HOMES) IT WAS HERE WHEN YOU BOUGHT YOUR HOME IT WAS HERE WHEN YOU SIGNED YOUR SETTLEMENT [PAPERS IT WAS HERE WHEN YOU MOVED IN If it's so freakin' bad, MOVE If it's not so freakin' bad, SHUT UP. How's that for settling it? There was a train station in Stevensville before I moved in. Pager service and cell phone service really sucked when I moved in. At one time route 50 had no overpasses. Horse and buggy was a very pleasant way to travel. And old-timers like you with their heads up their A$$es were a dime a dozen. Occasionally you raise your ugly heads. Go take a crap in your outhouse Mr. no progress. |
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Post by kp on Aug 11, 2010 15:58:32 GMT -4
Hey Deputy, since you love the siren so much, please buy my house so you can be right next to it and I'll GLADLY move.
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Post by fishfulthinking on Aug 11, 2010 20:37:35 GMT -4
sirens suk!
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Post by nightpurse99 on Aug 11, 2010 23:17:04 GMT -4
Hey Deputy, since you love the siren so much, please buy my house so you can be right next to it and I'll GLADLY move. If you price your house right it WILL sell in a week.. Lots of people would LOVE to live in your home ,,, with the siren |
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Post by nightpurse99 on Aug 11, 2010 23:17:31 GMT -4
Enough of this nonsense. Move the siren to the place that it belongs, next to the new fire station. If the people of this island didn't support the volunteers that station would never have been built. There is no reason for us to pray at the Temple of the Siren to prove that we care about the volunteers. Move the siren to the place that it belongs. If it costs too much money to do so, then spend it on scanners and pagers. The only nonsense here is people complaining about it. IT WAS HERE BEFORE YOU. IT WAS HERE WHEN YOU LOOKED AT YOUR HOME (AND PROBABLY OTHER HOMES) IT WAS HERE WHEN YOU BOUGHT YOUR HOME IT WAS HERE WHEN YOU SIGNED YOUR SETTLEMENT [PAPERS IT WAS HERE WHEN YOU MOVED IN If it's so freakin' bad, MOVE If it's not so freakin' bad, SHUT UP. How's that for settling it? Right ON !!!! |
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Post by glic on Aug 12, 2010 9:37:13 GMT -4
First and foremost, all that has been said about the dedication and service these volunteer firemen provide is not in question. They are indispensable and their personal sacrifices for our community are greatly appreciated. They should be compensated in some form for this kind of selflessness.
The issue is not the volunteer’s service – never was. The ONLY issue is the siren. The mere fact that the siren issue comes up so frequently does not Settle the Siren Issue Once and For All. Everyone knows what would truly settle the siren issue.
There have been multiple attempts to condone the siren’s use. But look closely at each of these reasons. Where is their objectivity? Every attempt is simply some type of affinity for what has always been, with no realistic reasoning.
It is the year 2010. It is inconceivable that the residents of Kent Island have to rely on an exceptionally loud air-raid siren to alert their volunteer firemen. Only one reason that may justify the use of the siren is for a potential COMMUNITY issue, such as a possible hurricane. Right now, the community would not know if the siren was meant as a community alert since it goes off 3-7 times in a 24-hour period. And where is the literature, information, etc. about the siren being used for potential community disaster and what the community is to do to prepare?
A suggestion as a first step: Since the majority of the calls are first aid, and the EMS stations are manned 24/7, and often do not require fire apparatus, do not activate the siren for these calls. Where is the logic of having an air raid siren wailing when the EMS personnel are already on the way?
It would be nice to think that the KIVFC officers would take steps to help with what is, obviously, an irritating nuisance for their neighbors. Just eliminating the siren blast for first aid calls is, at best, the first step.
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Post by kp on Aug 12, 2010 9:40:45 GMT -4
I'm sure lots of siren lovers WOULD love to live in my house. But the difference is knowingly moving into the situation versus being horribly surprised after moving in. No, the siren did not go off when I looked at the house nor during the home inspection, and settlement was on the western shore, so I had no idea. The siren isn't even at the fire station so why in the world would I know it was so near my house? I'm sure I could sell if "priced right" but I shouldn't have to be financially crippled to escape; but I probably will end up doing just that.
I was told the people on KI are so friendly but all I've found is a giant clique and an attitude of "go back to where you came from." Not really the exclusionary thinking I want my son to learn. That unwelcoming feeling is almost as bad as the siren. Sad...
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Post by kp on Aug 12, 2010 10:42:36 GMT -4
Glic, well written and great thoughts. Your first step idea echos my thoughts exactly. It would be a wonderful move in the right direction and alleviate much of the siren aggravation. Thank you for contributing to the debate.
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Post by dmki on Aug 12, 2010 11:05:55 GMT -4
I think the siren was moved from where Anderson Enterprises built those houses off of State street to the property near Love Point Park years ago. Not sure why but its definitely closer to the Mallard Run and Cloverfields communities. I guess those communities HOA didnt agree to pay the VFD a percent of their annual HOA non profit company income. Shame on them and hello siren.
Has anyone asked a volunteer if they have a device that notifies them other then the siren.
Maybe they have a primary device that alerts them and the siren is the secondary device.
I dont like the siren and cant say ive met someone that likes it who can hear it from where they live.
I believe there is a corrupt deep rooted reason why the siren exist and will be used for quite some time.
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