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Post by bchevy on Sept 15, 2010 20:26:47 GMT -4
Spend that money on the mortgage, get that nut out of the way. The nuts on the siren will either get uesd to it or go away.
It's like moving near an airport and complaining about the planes.....
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Post by RobMoore on Sept 15, 2010 21:50:54 GMT -4
A pager like the one I carry is approx, $420.00 new. So assuming the department needed 100 units, that is obviously $42,000.00. I'm surprised their isn't an automated phone system that can make dozens of calls in a very short time. Using preexisting phones seems more efficient than having to issue a pager, which is a dying technology anyway. Certainly a system like that, the kind we all get calls from for everything from political telemarketing to "Your trash will be picked up a day late" is cheaper than $42k
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Post by grova on Sept 15, 2010 22:02:19 GMT -4
The only nonsense here is people complaining about it. IT WAS HERE BEFORE YOU. IT WAS HERE WHEN YOU LOOKED AT YOUR HOME (AND PROBABLY OTHER HOMES) IT WAS HERE WHEN YOU BOUGHT YOUR HOME IT WAS HERE WHEN YOU SIGNED YOUR SETTLEMENT [PAPERS IT WAS HERE WHEN YOU MOVED IN If it's so freakin' bad, MOVE If it's not so freakin' bad, SHUT UP. How's that for settling it? There was a train station in Stevensville before I moved in. Pager service and cell phone service really sucked when I moved in. At one time route 50 had no overpasses. Horse and buggy was a very pleasant way to travel. And old-timers like you with their heads up their A$$es were a dime a dozen. Occasionally you raise your ugly heads. Go take a crap in your outhouse Mr. no progress. Also the Earth is not flat and man will never fly! The the siren issue doesn't much bother me, apparently its a very touchy subject with some. I understand the cost involved with outfitting everybody with new equipment but with today's technology how does a pager cost $450? So out of the 100 people involved with our departments how many don't have pagers? As Frank stated he can't hear the siren so how do those who are out of range and without pagers know when to respond. I would also think that if one purchased a pager they could get a tax reimbursement. Then again I might be ASSuming too much. At least we don't have to rely on bucket brigades any more. No matter what...thanks KIVFD!
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Post by awesome on Sept 15, 2010 22:03:29 GMT -4
Or we can raise taxes and hire a career fire department like Anne Arundel so that they come every time someone calls 911 instead of Grasonville having to come on the island an running cars off the road as they do it.
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Post by misternuke on Sept 15, 2010 23:47:48 GMT -4
I am proud to be a member of KIVFD. I cannot speak on behalf of the department but can tell you this is not an easy issue for the department either. Many of the members and their families are also affected by the siren. The impact to the community is always a concern, after all, we exist for one purpose and that is to serve and protect our friends, neighbors and relatives. There is no intent by the department to cause anyone ill will. It is simply a matter of necessity in order to provide the service. I personally do not live close enough for the siren to get into my head and wake me. When I joined, I had to purchase my own pager (used) for about $250.00. And trust me my wife hates that pager as much as many of you do the siren, lol. Bottom line is the members and officers of the department are not unreasonable and I'm certain will be willing to work toward a mutually acceptable solution. As has been pointed out, issuing pagers to members would help to get the word of an emergency out to the responders. However, pagers are expensive. A pager like the one I carry is approx, $420.00 new. So assuming the department needed 100 units, that is obviously $42,000.00. This doesn't factor in repair and maintenance costs, etc. I hope I have been able to provide some information that will be helpful. My disclaimer: Be aware, my comments are just that, my comments exercised under my right to free speech, and do not in any way represent the views of the fire department. Take Care and Keep Safe... FFMedicMo Thanks for your service to the community, and don't listen to these Nattering Naybobs of Negativity. I used to live not too far off the end of the flight line at a Naval Air Station. The sound of those F14 Tomcats could shake the paint off the walls, but to me, there was no more glorious noise. (of course I also spent several years with the pillow-end of my bunk right next to the engine room bulkhead on a destroyer....hearing loss? Perhaps) The siren is the same....that's the sound of safety, and I love it. I'll be sad if the day ever comes that it goes away. And yes, I live way less than a mile away from the station. The ghost train whistle.....now THAT's sort of disturbing ;D
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Post by doinit on Sept 16, 2010 0:31:32 GMT -4
Everyone should be thankful that the siren is not like the ones in Easton. in Easton alone there is about four to five sirens in the town of Easton and for every fire call each siren blows eight times!!!! If anyone has ever been in Easton when those sirens go off you would appreciate Kent Islands.
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Post by kp on Sept 20, 2010 9:53:43 GMT -4
Yeah, the Kent Island siren isn't that bad...unless you live less than a quarter mile from it. I was on my porch last night, enjoying a lovely evening when a 4-alarmer made me put down my beverage and plug my ears. And my ears rang after it stopped. Yes, it IS that bad.
If one more person says "It's like moving next to an airport and complaining about the airplane noise" I'm going to scream. The siren is hidden between a park and a nature trail. Stupid me for not checking there before buying my home. And in 2010 no less...
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Post by RobMoore on Sept 20, 2010 10:17:22 GMT -4
Plus, the siren only goes off a few times a day. You might never know about it till after you move in. An airport makes constant noise. Poor comparison.
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Post by formerkiguy on Sept 21, 2010 7:20:05 GMT -4
Why is it that the KIVFD siren is the only one ever complained about on here? I have said this before, contact the fire dept. and work with them for a solution.
I am life member of the KIVFD but agree the time has come to not using the siren for every call. I have not always been this sympathetic to those who are so against the siren but know that talking about it on here will never solve anything.
Trust me, I hope the KIVFD will listen to your concerns because they still depend on the communities generousity to support them. 410-643-5454
On an unrelated topic - I have left my little island adobe out in the Pacific for a much more adventurous journey....
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Post by einebierbitte on Sept 21, 2010 7:48:43 GMT -4
Stay safe formerkiguy!! Come home safe and sound and may God protect you and those around you from being harmed!!
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Post by kp on Sept 22, 2010 7:57:17 GMT -4
Formerkiguy, I did try but the chief assured me that the siren was critical to operations at this time, which I do not believe...but what can you do? You are right that nothing will ever come from venting here. I guess that is just what it is: venting, which is somewhat therapeutic. Please be safe. Thoughts and prayers are with you and your fellow heroes.
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Post by Frank on Sept 22, 2010 8:07:18 GMT -4
I thought this was settled once and for all on page one!
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Post by kp on Sept 22, 2010 8:09:15 GMT -4
I have to believe that horse is not quite dead...it's what helps me keep my sanity...
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Post by awesome on Sept 22, 2010 16:17:21 GMT -4
Formerkiguy, I did try but the chief assured me that the siren was critical to operations at this time, which I do not believe...but what can you do? You are right that nothing will ever come from venting here. I guess that is just what it is: venting, which is somewhat therapeutic. Please be safe. Thoughts and prayers are with you and your fellow heroes. There is always something, you can stop sending donation checks, or supporting any of there functions, you would think that a VOLUNTEER company the needs community support would be willing to work with the needs of community members.
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Post by funnel101 on Sept 22, 2010 16:51:26 GMT -4
I thought this was settled once and for all on page one! I think this thread is one of the best examples of irony I've seen online.
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Post by ipm on Jan 4, 2011 11:24:05 GMT -4
Hi on Saturday between 11:45 -12:10 PM I was at the Love Point park with my son. At about 11:46AM, I heard the fire siren malfunction. It did not go off and made some squeaking sounds. Around 12:15 I started home. When I was on the bike path, about as close as one can get to the siren, it went off. Both my son and I were about 30 feet from the siren. To make matters worst, the siren got stuck. After the first ring, my son, who has autism, crashed his scooter bumped his head and started screaming. I attempted to cover his ears with my hands but the siren did not stop after 10 -15 rings. So, I instructed him to get on his scooter and move. Despite having a helmet on, in a panic he bumped his head and scraped up his knee when he fell. He left the area screaming. My ears were ringing for the whole day because of this noise. I reported this incident to the Queen Anne County Police. They said they would send out an officer to take a report. I waited two hours but no officer came out. Does anyone know who I should report this too ?
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Post by Mike on Jan 4, 2011 13:07:40 GMT -4
No one. It was the siren testing, not a malfunction.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2011 18:26:28 GMT -4
Oh No!!!!! Easy there Mike, take your mind off the "you know what".
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Post by ipm on Jan 4, 2011 19:13:11 GMT -4
So Mike, it sounds like you have some inside information here. Can you tell me the organization in charge of testing the fire siren. Thank you.
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Post by Mike on Jan 4, 2011 19:54:19 GMT -4
Oh No!!!!! Easy there Mike, take your mind off the "you know what". Who know wha?
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Post by constructr on Jan 4, 2011 20:42:40 GMT -4
Just a question, but, how would people who normally respond to the siren know that it was a "test" and not an actual emergency?
IPM, maybe go to the KIVFD and talk to them?
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Post by Mike on Jan 4, 2011 21:08:23 GMT -4
Just a question, but, how would people who normally respond to the siren know that it was a "test" and not an actual emergency? IPM, maybe go to the KIVFD and talk to them? From what I've gathered from all of these other siren threads, the Vollies get paged if there is an emergency.
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Post by falgar25 on Jan 4, 2011 21:16:08 GMT -4
The UCVFD siren had a similar "malfunction" at about 12:15 on Saturday. I attributed it to being the first Saturday of the year.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2011 21:32:36 GMT -4
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Post by Mike on Jan 4, 2011 23:45:51 GMT -4
Thanks for the reminder.... good looking out, all posts from that thread are now here... ah proboards, I love you.
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