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Post by Jim Jones on Jun 12, 2008 22:07:30 GMT -4
I think that somebody needs to look at the Sheriff's Office from the Sheriff and his Command Staff to his deputies. There is a lot of internal problems that Gery chooses to turn his head the other was. Moral in his agency SUCKS!!!!!!!! Nobody wants to be proactive while Gery and his assistant drive around in their 9 mpg Ford Expeditions and do NOTHING. While the deputies are driving cars with 150,000 miles falling apart. O yea and manpower, our county is lucky if there are three deputies on the road at night! I feel real safe in this county. They have to depend on the Bay Bridge Police for back up because there are no deputies! Our Sheriff and his staff have some major issues and major changes are needed before it gets any worse than it is. Sheriff you better wake up and smell the coffee. There are lot of issues and your agency is the JOKE of the MD Law enforcement community!
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Post by barcleybarker on Jun 12, 2008 23:19:58 GMT -4
I would call the state police any day over the county sheriff. They will respond and do what they have to do. The last time I called the sheriff to my house when my son got assaulted, he told me to file my own charges and just left my house. I called his supervisor and he told me to go to the court house and file charges. I will never request the sheriff at my house, i will just call the state police!
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Post by Pete Richter on Jun 13, 2008 4:37:53 GMT -4
barcleybarker............Here is a true State Police story for you.......One of the suspects in the Felonious Burglary & $22,000.00 vandalism of our home, had for sale on the public street, a pick-up listed to a man who runs a garage in Downingtown Pa.. The history of the serial number showed 9 questionable sales from Ny. to Fla., and back again. Was displaying a Del. tag that had been expired for more than 4 years, with a current Del. sticker. In the windshield on a for sale sign was the burglary suspects phone number. M.S.P. Lt. Paul Kelly warned the man to move the vehicle because Pete Richter made the complaint. This was done with the consent of Barrack Commander Lt. Gary Foster, and the the M.S.P. Commander in Pikesville.........In this corrupt system if you point out the problem, you become the broblem..........What violations of the law do you see here?
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Post by bluecrabber on Jun 13, 2008 6:08:56 GMT -4
Wow! Sure sounds like Jim Jones is a disgruntled employee! What the heck do you people expect? I would assume all the deputies do not have brand new patrol cars because they cost money the Sheriff's department does not have. Heck, 150,000 miles on a car these days is just getting it broke in! I would also assume that if it is true there are only three deputies on duty during the night it is for budget and manpower reasons?? Although I find this likely to be false information. Do you expect the county to raise taxes on every resident so you can have a new patrol car every three months? As far as the Sheriff and his right hand man driving 9 mpg SUV's, I guess in tight budget and high gas price times you could criticize but I would also think the Sheriff could come up with some good reasons why he needs an SUV. Maybe it's to car pool some of his henchmen to the donut shop?? (Just kidding Gery) In any organization the head honcho does have some perks. Quite frankly, I don't understand all the negative vibes against this Sheriff. Any organization like his is going to have some employees who make mistakes and will be weeded out and dismissed. I don't care if the organization is the Catholic Church, there are some misfits. Does that make the Pope an idiot? I am convinced reading the negative posts on this forum about the Sheriff's department that most originate from employees or their immediate families. Typical. Cheerio. PS, I will vote for Sheriff hoffman next go around even though I did not vote for him last time. And no, I did not vote for Pete.
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Post by BRIDGEgirl on Jun 13, 2008 8:41:55 GMT -4
I have read so many of these complaint threads on this forum and I still don't get it. We have lived here for two of the administrations...Gary and the previous sheriff. From our point of view, the sheriff's office became much more concerned about our community when Gary took over...and became much more responsive to complaints.
Case in point, the sheriff's office busted a drug dealer near my house who had been working there for months. The neighbors knew it...reported it under the previous admin. and nothing happened. Gary took over and guess what...he's busted and gone.
He still may not be perfect...but, I do think he's better.
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Post by Guest on Jun 13, 2008 8:42:14 GMT -4
Okay, it's easy to complain and point fingers - but what are you going to do about it?
I don't have much respect for people that just sit back and complain. If you don't like something, educate yourself to better understand it and then take steps to change it.
The person who said they won't call the sheriff's dept. anymore, they'll just call the state police - I'm curious if the state police will respond or if they will tell you that you need to contact the sheriff's dept. My daughter had a car accident and it took me 5 minutes on the phone to get the agency who had juridiction over the road that she had her accident on. I would just be curious if you call the state police and say you want to report an assault if they will tell you to call the sheriff's dept becasue they handle those issues.
Is the reason you were directed to Centreville to file a report because that is the policy? If you don't like it, maybe you need to voice your opinion about changing the policy or ask why it is that way?
Looks to me like you have two options - run for sheriff yourself in the next election or move to someplace where the police department better meets your expectations.
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Post by davieq on Jun 13, 2008 9:45:53 GMT -4
Wow, nothing like posting as a bunch of different people to make your point moot.
Here's the thing; people in this area don't care about the Sheriff and Deputies because they don't have to. That's not a knock on the local fuzz, actually a compliment. This area isn't P.G. County guy, and that's why you are not going to stir up the community against the local police. I don't know of anyone except the few crazies on here that have had any problems with the police. I don't like the fact that they are focused on speeders on 50, seat belt ticketing, DUI fishing, or any of that stuff either, but again, this isn't P.G. County and there isn't that much else to do. Like it or not, these are laws and until you do something to change those laws they will be enforced here.
Now move along. We don't need another nutjob on here complaining about the police.
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Post by lynn on Jun 13, 2008 10:17:40 GMT -4
My only complaint with the Sheriff's office is a purely economic one. We, the tax payers, pay for their gas in their cars. I think that with gas at 4.0 a gallon it is absurd for any of them to be driving big SUVs around. Unless they need a large vehicle for their work, it is a waste of our taxpaying dollars.
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Post by Rich Fisher on Jun 13, 2008 13:06:40 GMT -4
FYI, I can see the IP address of users - including "guests" on here. Please do not post as several different users because your posts will be deleted. If it keeps up, the IP address will be blocked and you won't be able to post at all.
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Post by Frank on Jun 13, 2008 13:14:58 GMT -4
B-U-S-T-E-D !!
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Post by polllease on Jun 13, 2008 14:03:58 GMT -4
bluecrabber,
you are totally right in saying that deputies shouldn't expect to get a new car every 3 months. but they should get decent equipment in order to do what we ask of them. Most cars are just getting broke in around 150,000 miles, but not a cop car because they are driven to extremes.
on the other hand, there is no way to justify gery/gary or jim williams or even chris tarr driving around in gas guzzling suv's or a pick up truck. that is merely a status symbol and an ego thing and he can do it because he can. if anything, they should be driving the oldest piece of crap just based on their job function of being an administrator and not a patrol officer.
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Post by ur guest on Jun 13, 2008 17:59:51 GMT -4
Oh Pullese, did you finally get your computer back? Do any of you really know how little the Sheriff makes? He took a 20k pay cut to be bashed and ridiculed by the same 10 people. That's right look it up, your sheriff makes 53k a year with no other income, from anywhere. I know, believe me, he is not living the high life by any means. give the guy some respect will you? Just one of you name, just one incident, where you have contacted him directly and he has not satisfactorily tried to solve your issues. Believe me I also know that fact. I am sick of these types of attacks and I do not know how some of you sleep at night. And you can bet that they all know who you are!!!!!!! And just because your o/t has been cut, maybe it had something to do with you and not him. Do some soul searching. Also please remember that children read these site and you all are only condoning disrespect of all law enforcement. Would you walk up to the sheriffs young children and say such things? Would you stoop that low? Well what if they read this? Or any of his family? How can you live with yourselves? Thanks to all of you that think on your own and dont need others to think for you.
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Post by polllease on Jun 13, 2008 18:46:28 GMT -4
hello my old friend ur guest. i knew it would only be a matter of time before you would reply to some of my posts.
I know exactly how much the sheriff makes, but more importantly, i don't care. he took a 20k pay cut to be sheriff of his own choosing, i'm pretty sure no one held a gun to his head to run for the position. If you or he is complaining about the salary, then my question is did you and he not know what the salary was before he decided to run for sheriff? If its too low for you and him, then tell him to do us all a favor and resign his post.
As a politician, he is succeptable to all kinds ridicule and criticisms, so get used to it, cuz he has 2 more years maybe. and no where have i ever mentioned his kids or family, so i'm kinda unsure where that comes from.
gary/gery, jim and chris and the rest of the good time gang should know by now that, trust, respect and loyalty are earned and not demanded. and unfortunately, they haven't earned any of the three.
In relations to my last post, i was just stating comment about an earlier post. but lets talk about a waste of taxpayer money...having a patrol car parked in grasonville, so that an elderly 'reserve deputy' can drive it from there to centreville, rather then drive his personal vehicle to the sheriffs office because the man is on a fixed income. now that makes a whole bunch of sense and almost sounds like a reward for being a gery/gary supporter.
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Post by ur guest on Jun 14, 2008 11:56:31 GMT -4
Here's the great thing.....
The Sheriff wanted to have a Meet the Sheriff/fundraiser...Do you know that a day was picked and the arrangements made AND THEN the disagreements began.
Two very large groups from QA Business's/Organizations actually disagreed as to which one would sponsor and pay for the event. So there are now three events planned and all three have been sold out. The tickets are gone, but if you would like to come you can obtain a flyer which has a ticket for "1" on the actual flyer.
For all of you that hate him so much, there seems to be about 46,000 others that think he is doing a great job.
Hopefully, we'll see you there!!! It would be a perfect time to tell him to his face all the things you hate and covet.
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Post by Check your math on Jun 14, 2008 12:09:53 GMT -4
SHERIFF Results 2006 Candidates for Sheriff - Queen Anne's County Raymond G. Hofmann Charlie Rhodes Republican Democratic
Queen Anne's 9,799 7,670
Totals 9,799 (56.01%) 7,670 (43.84%)
With the way you count I hope your not preparing the Sheriff's budget! I'm still waiting to hear where you got the 43,000 from. The above figures are from the board of elections.
Also, if you look a little deeper you will see that more people in his party did not vote for him in the primary election. He only won that one due to a lot of other people splitting the vote.
And also, the three business thing is also BS. They can't give the tickets away and that's from and inside source!!!!
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Post by polllease on Jun 14, 2008 14:03:42 GMT -4
ok ur guest, you've issued the challenge and i accept. where and when are these events because i will be at all of them so that i can see for myself the things of which you speak, such as being sold out and blah, blah, blah.
Please post the info on this board so that all those that are interested may partake. this will be good.
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Post by Ticketmaster on Jun 14, 2008 18:41:49 GMT -4
Sorry, sold out. Didn't you hear, over 43,000 people will be there!
Bet ya Homer has one though!
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Post by barney on Jun 14, 2008 19:03:57 GMT -4
Sure do cheapshotartist/Ticketmaster/sarahj/Pollease/etc....... Got plenty of them. You all wanna go on a date? LOL!
Sorry. It's difficult to jump on the anti-sheriff bandwagon with you(se) guys when there really is no problem, other than the fact that your friend didn't win the election.
Smite away...
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Post by Guest on Jun 15, 2008 14:30:47 GMT -4
I would call the state police any day over the county sheriff. They will respond and do what they have to do. The last time I called the sheriff to my house when my son got assaulted, he told me to file my own charges and just left my house. I called his supervisor and he told me to go to the court house and file charges. I will never request the sheriff at my house, i will just call the state police! Barcleybarker: I am sorry to hear your son got assaulted and hope he did not sustain any serious or long term physical injures by this. Not to be rude but what did you think the police were going to do. Unless a weapon, not including hands or fists was used during the assault, it is a misdemeanor charge. Under Maryland Law their are only a handful of misdemeanor charges that an officer can make a physical arrest when the crime did not occur in the officers presence. Domestic assault is one of the cases but any other basic assault, you can not unless it was a felony first degree assault. Call the state police if you like, but Maryland Law is Maryland Law. The officer can take the report and you go down to district court, meet with the commissioner and file the assault charges. Thats how it works in the state of Maryland. It's not the fault of the deputy, it's the fault of the law.
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Post by Pete Richter on Jun 15, 2008 20:13:47 GMT -4
guest..........Police can make an arrest for an assault he did not witness, if he has reason to believe the assaulter will make another assault on the victim, or another person.
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Post by Guest on Jun 15, 2008 22:11:59 GMT -4
guest..........Police can make an arrest for an assault he did not witness, if he has reason to believe the assaulter will make another assault on the victim, or another person. Pete, maybe back in the day when you were a cop but not in 2008 and not in the last decade. Show me where in Maryland Law does it say that. I would love to know.
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Post by polllease on Jun 15, 2008 22:56:11 GMT -4
Homer, that is funny! ;D
I respect your opinion for not jumping on the band wagon. Although, there are plenty of problems, you are simply not privvy to them. A big red flag should have went up when gery/gary cleared Lenzi in the tasing incident until the states attorney got involved and found that gery/gary's investigation was not factual.
but no worries, election time is on the way and all his 'problems' will start making their way into the public domain.
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Post by Pete Richter on Jun 17, 2008 17:25:50 GMT -4
Homer................"un-limited off-duty status"..............If this is the case then the Cops can use OUR Vehicles to run a Sedan Service, or any other private businesses at the Tax Payers Expense. Please post the general order that gives them this so I can forward the information to the Politicians, and the Boy States Attorney Frank Kratovil.......To keep from paying the Cops a decent salary most Departments are allowing their men to work security jobs with all their tax paid for equipment (gun-badge-car etc.). If these off duty Cops would shoot someone while working a security job the liability is paid for by the Tax Payers, not the Wal-Mart store. If the Cop gets killed while working an off duty security job, the tax payers pay for that too, not the millionaires at Wal-Mart. Not to mention it's a conflict of interest for a Cop to be a security guard in the first place. Police Departments are running security businesses without a license all over the country in violation of the law. The power and the authority of the badge belongs to the Taxpayers, not private business, or the good old boys......Pay these men what they deserve is what I say. Then you'll get the cream of the crop rather than the cream of the crap.
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Post by Guest on Jun 18, 2008 20:35:59 GMT -4
Does the Sheriff's Office put out contracts for open bids?
Wiring up the cars with the emergency lights and sirens?
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Post by Lights and Cars on Jun 18, 2008 22:07:53 GMT -4
Why would he have to do that, the County has it's own garage that does that. As a matter of fact the County services their own cars and trucks and even built onto the garage in Centreville and doubled the size of it.
I would think they put the Sheriff lights and stuff on since they do it to their dumps truck and other County equipment. Sending the police cars out to do that work wouldn't make any sense at all.
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